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Setting up to be a 7 Seed

PAHusky said:
NET is a major factor they take into account but not the only one. If the tournament started tomorrow UConn is looking at a 5 seed, which is where Lunardi and just about everyone else has us.
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Who is everyone else? And who cares where Lunardi has us?

The fact is that everyone else doesn’t have us at a 5-seed. See www.bracketmatrix.com which compiles the bracket forecasts of “just about everyone else” - about 80 “bracketologists in all. We are a consensus 4-seed with the picks ranging from 2-5. In other words, 5 is the lowest anyone has picked us at this point.

All of that aside, the only selection that will matter is the one that the committee makes. And we won’t know that for more than 6 weeks. There’s a lot of basketball yet to be played and the schedule is becoming more favorable for us.
 
Billy Jack said:
What is that supposed to mean?
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It means that even though they say they don’t care how you finish and they
treat all games evenly they dont. Have a great start and finish 0 and 6 down the stretch and see where you end up seeded. No matter what the numbers say, you are going to take a hit.
 
CaptainRon said:
It means that even though they say they don’t care how you finish and they
treat all games evenly they dont. Have a great start and finish 0 and 6 down the stretch and see where you end up seeded. No matter what the numbers say, you are going to take a hit.
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How do you know that?
 
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2 seed?
here, let's play a game that wise ladies, gentlemen, and children of all ages across the land regularly play. it's called 'guess the seed.'
take the approximate (ap, coaches) poll postion of a team, divide by 4, then add one, or none, or subtract one from that number.
currently we are around 19. divide by 4 (4.75) and add 1 (5.75) or subtract 1 (3.75).
heck, even that bracketmishmosh link has it as 'consensus 4.'
on a good day. on a bad day? mebbe 5.
seeding.
 
Billy Jack said:
Rankings are meaningless and are nit part of the seeding criteria. NCAA Net is and right now they have us ranked #7. That’s a 2-seed. Maybe the committee drops us to a 3 or even a 4, but they’ll start with us as a 2.

To make the argument that we’re a 5, 6, or 7, those posters are going to explain who the teams are who have better credentials than we do. Seedlings aren’t made in the abstract. There’s a context.
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Rankings are meaningless and are nit part of the seeding criteria. NCAA Net is...

wait, is this true? jalens squad, with their net, is around a 4 seed according to this thinking.

i doubt it.
if course, if they keep up, they'll be so far out of conventional thinking that anywhere seeded won't really be arguable.
 
Lunardi still has UConn as a 5 seed this morning after the X loss. He has 5 BE teams ( X, Marq, UConn, Prov, Creighton) all comfortably in the field with no other BE teams on his bubble.

It tells you how great the non-confernce performance was to be able to lose 6 of 8 games and still be a 5 seed. Plenty of games left to move up or down but overall still in good shape. Let's hope Dan Hurley, staff & players take this time until next game to figure things out for the final push in Feb.
 
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Billy Jack said:
Who is everyone else? And who cares where Lunardi has us?

The fact is that everyone else doesn’t have us at a 5-seed. See www.bracketmatrix.com which compiles the bracket forecasts of “just about everyone else” - about 80 “bracketologists in all. We are a consensus 4-seed with the picks ranging from 2-5. In other words, 5 is the lowest anyone has picked us at this point.

All of that aside, the only selection that will matter is the one that the committee makes. And we won’t know that for more than 6 weeks. There’s a lot of basketball yet to be played and the schedule is becoming more favorable for us.
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BracketMatrix isn't updated post Xavier loss. Once that is factored in we'll drop to a consensus 5-seed.
 
I don't think we get a two seed even if we win out including the BET. In my completely uninformed opinion, our ceiling was a 1-seed before the Xavier game and is now a 3-seed.
 
Get a Job said:
I don't think we get a two seed even if we win out including the BET. In my completely uninformed opinion, our ceiling was a 1-seed before the Xavier game and is now a 3-seed.
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So, you’re saying that if we win out, including the BET. and have a record of 29-6, we won’t be seeded higher than a 3? Wow!

I’d love to know who the 8+ teams are that you’re seeding above us are. And are they all winning out for the rest of the season too?

Just speaking hypothetically of course . . . ;)
 
7-2 or 6-3 in rest of BE season
We will make the Big East Championship
25-9
4 seed
 
bendm said:
i just dont wanna be the 4/5 in purdue or houston's region. otherwise dont care if we're a 4, 5, 6, or 7 seed.

all the other 1, 2, and 3 seeds are interchangeable.
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I'm not afraid of Purdue. The B10 teams gag in the tournament. I'd like to avoid Houston
 
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huskyharry said:
7-2 or 6-3 in rest of BE season
We will make the Big East Championship
25-9
4 seed
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How can you post that information and then say “4-seed”? What the other teams do who are competing for top seeds between now and then matters.
 
Billy Jack said:
So, you’re saying that if we win out, including the BET. and have a record of 29-6, we won’t be seeded higher than a 3? Wow!

I’d love to know who the 8+ teams are that you’re seeding above us are. And are they all winning out for the rest of the season too?

Just speaking hypothetically of course . . . ;)
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The top 8 teams in post #48, for example.
 
Get a Job said:
The top 8 teams in post #48, for example.
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Here’s where you run into problems going there. Kansas & Texas are in the same league and haven’t faced each other yet. In addition, they will be the favorites to meet in the conference tournament. If they don’t it will be because at least one of them has lost a game earlier in the tournament. So, at least one of the two will pick up 2 more losses. Kansas already has 4 losses.

In addition to KU & TX matchups, TX has a road game vs Tennessee, one of the other teams on your list. TN will be favored to win that game, creating another potential loss for TX. IF TX wins, then that’s a loss for TN, who has 2 more games vs Alabama, another team from your list. TN & AL each already has 3 losses. One of them is losing more games.

You have the same situation with UCLA and Arizona, both in the same conference at least for now. They have 2 more games against each other. UCLA already has 4 losses and Arizona has 3. One or both of them isn’t finished with losing games.

All of this is to say that UConn has a shot at a 2-seed if they win out because their competition will be losing games between now and Selection Sunday. Because of the matchups, they have to. They can’t all win out.

If UConn wins the BE Tournament, the championship of the 3rd best conference, the notion that they will be passed over for the runner up of the PAC 12, the 5th best conference, really isn’t likely to happen.

The point is that there’s still time for UConn to turn their season around and get a 2-seed. Despite the recent discouraging losses, I happen to think they’ll do exactly that.
 
Billy Jack said:
Here’s where you run into problems going there. Kansas & Texas are in the same league and haven’t faced each other yet. In addition, they will be the favorites to meet in the conference tournament. If they don’t it will be because at least one of them has lost a game earlier in the tournament. So, at least one of the two will pick up 2 more losses. Kansas already has 4 losses.

In addition to KU & TX matchups, TX has a road game vs Tennessee, one of the other teams on your list. TN will be favored to win that game, creating another potential loss for TX. IF TX wins, then that’s a loss for TN, who has 2 more games vs Alabama, another team from your list. TN & AL each already has 3 losses. One of them is losing more games.

You have the same situation with UCLA and Arizona, both in the same conference at least for now. They have 2 more games against each other. UCLA already has 4 losses and Arizona has 3. One or both of them isn’t finished with losing games.

All of this is to say that UConn has a shot at a 2-seed if they win out because their competition will be losing games between now and Selection Sunday. Because of the matchups, they have to. They can’t all win out.

If UConn wins the BE Tournament, the championship of the 3rd best conference, the notion that they will be passed over for the runner up of the PAC 12, the 5th best conference, really isn’t likely to happen.

The point is that there’s still time for UConn to turn their season around and get a 2-seed. Despite the recent discouraging losses, I happen to think they’ll do exactly that.
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I hope you're right. I would be ecstatic to lose this argument.
 
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