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Seth Greenberg on UConn & the Big East

It's a vicious cycle. Nobody is proud of the American. No states we care about. Poor talent. Yet me may finish 7th this year. Plus look at UCF football. If Ed2.0 goes undefeated next year, we won't even crack the top 10. Good times.
 
I, for one, think we should hang in there with the AAC. Yes, it is dreadful conference and ultimately will kill us. But, we are not there yet. I think we can wait a couple years to make such a dramatic decision. In the meantime, any shake up in the P-5 world could benefit us. Further, remember there are obviously other reasons that cause schools to be invited to the dance. Witness Rutgers. Its athletic department was and remains in shambles, but the B1G found it attractive enough for other reasons.
 
Butler.... hell even providence has made the tournament what will be their 5th year in a row now. I think this fan base would take 5 straight tourney appearances and be happy
Providence? How many tourney games have they won in that span? Would you trade what we accomplished over that stretch (which has our fan base in an uproar) for their five straight appearances (which their fans view as high times)?
 
Providence? How many tourney games have they won in that span? Would you trade what we accomplished over that stretch (which has our fan base in an uproar) for their five straight appearances (which their fans view as high times)?

I’m just saying if we had that nobody would be complaining
 
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Alternatively, what are they going to say, “Uconn sucks and has gone down hill because Kevin Ollie sunk the ship?” No, they’re never gonna say that publicly. So they need to say something to answer the question many casual viewers are asking as to why the program has declined into oblivion. So the easy explanation is to blame it entirely on conference affiliation, and nostalgia for the old big east days. Also, these are sports talking Heads and I don’t believe any grand conspiracy is beyond their on air comments.


LOL
 
Disagree with Greenberg. I understand some of the sentiment but turning back now would be disasterous! UMASS would change places in a heartbeat with us. Their football team is nomadic, scrambling to fill their schedule. Certainly no way to build anything. UMASS plays in the A-10, a decent Mid-Major bball conference. Proponents of the back to the Big East camp fail to realize that this would be moving backwards for UCONN and is essentially giving up on becoming a Major athletic program in the big sports, Football and Basketball.

How would this be a step back from a basketball standpoint? The big east is a better basketball conference, and gets significantly more respect nationally. interms of basketball Big East>>AAC>A-10
 
Yes, playing Marquette, G'Town, and Butler would have changed our trajectory.....F outta here.

We lost the game of conference alignment, but overall the AAC (as bad as it is) is better than the new, new, not so new Big East.
Uh...yeah. Look at Providence and Seton Hall. They are RELEVANT again, and we are not.
 
A) There is no way the BE would accept us if we did not downgrade football. Their view (which would be accurate) would be that we would merely be using them until a P-5 offer arrived. They feel that they've been burnt enough by football, they won't open themselves up for the possibility again.

B) Nova at the moment (and until they lose Jay Wright) is a better version of Gonzaga and the BE is a larger version of the West Coast Conference. If you believe that there will be any legitimate sustainability as a major conference once Wright retires (or leaves to an NBA gig) you haven't been paying attention to what the P-5 has been doing the past dozen or so years. Returning to the BE may provide a short term boost to our attendance and may make regional recruiting a bit easier at first but over time all it will do is condemn us to permanent mid-major status.
I don't disagree with much of what you said but you lose all credibility when you compare the WCC to the Big East.
 
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It's easier to be relevant in the NBE because all the BIG DOGS left.
Irregardless, they are relevant again.
 
Uh...yeah. Look at Providence and Seton Hall. They are RELEVANT again, and we are not.

Lol. Are they? We stink, how many nationally televised games have we played already this season? How many have PC and Seton Hall played combined? How many are they scheduled to play....and being on Fox Sports 6 isn't really a national telecast. Seton Hall doesn't think Seton Hall is relevant. Lmao
 
Lol. Are they? We stink, how many nationally televised games have we played already this season? How many have PC and Seton Hall played combined? How many are they scheduled to play....and being on Fox Sports 6 isn't really a national telecast. Seton Hall doesn't think Seton Hall is relevant. Lmao
Fox Sports 1 is a national telecast, and so is Fox Sports 2. You do realize all of their game bar 2 or 3 are on FOX, ESPN 2, FS1, or FS2, right? We have a worse TV schedule than them. They only have one or two games on FS2 and about 3 on CBS Sports Network. We have about six on CBSSN, a gazillion on ESPNU or ESPNNews. They are doing fine.
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Fox Sports 1 is a national telecast, and so is Fox Sports 2. You do realize all of their game bar 2 or 3 are on FOX, ESPN 2, FS1, or FS2, right? We have a worse TV schedule than them. They only have one or two games on FS2 and about 3 on CBS Sports Network. We have about six on CBSSN, a gazillion on ESPNU or ESPNNews. They are doing fine.
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Providence has a MUCH better coach than UCONN and are in a much better conference. I still can't figure out why Seton Hall has had a resurgence but they somehow have.
 
Fox Sports 1 is a national telecast, and so is Fox Sports 2. You do realize all of their game bar 2 or 3 are on FOX, ESPN 2, FS1, or FS2, right? We have a worse TV schedule than them. They only have one or two games on FS2 and about 3 on CBS Sports Network. We have about six on CBSSN, a gazillion on ESPNU or ESPNNews. They are doing fine.
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We make less money but have more exposure. ESPNU reaches 30mil more households than FS2. I don’t get FS2 in Seattle for instance.
 
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We make less money but have more exposure. ESPNU reaches 30mil more households than FS2. I don’t get FS2 in Seattle for instance.
They have one game on FS2. We have a game on ESPNNews. They play most of their games on FOX or FS1.
 
They have one game on FS2. We have a game on ESPNNews. They play most of their games on FOX or FS1.
Gotcha. My point was that TV exposure isn’t our problem. For what we are providing for product, it’s actually quite good. I’m not a NBE hater.
 
Gotcha. My point was that TV exposure isn’t our problem. For what we are providing for product, it’s actually quite good. I’m not a NBE hater.
I would say exposure is a wash because they have most games on FS1 even if we have some games on CBS, ESPN and 2, a lot of our games our on CBS SN and ESPNU and News. I think if we joined the Big East, we could probably get 8-10 games a year on FOX.
 
So Cinci, Temple, Memphis and WSU aren’t basketball schools? Houston has done more in basketball than 3/4 of the NBE. SMU built a program that has won ever year since this league existed. UCF just beat a ranked Alabama.

It’s a bunch of nonsense. With WSU in the fold, the differences in level of play are minor. The geography favors the Big East a bit, but not all that much beyond PC and St John’s.
The only school in the AAC who has no business being there is ECU in B.B. but they can say the same about UConn football
 
How would this be a step back from a basketball standpoint? The big east is a better basketball conference, and gets significantly more respect nationally. interms of basketball Big East>>AAC>A-10
It's really not better. It's a mid-major conference with mediocre programs beyond Villanova, just happens to have a sexy name.
 
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The NBE would be the death knell for Uconn athletics. One small data sample doesn't change that. The NBE is small-time.
LOL. My point is proven and it's a death knell. If you care to do any further research in that link, you will find that the AAC NEVER finishes higher than 7th in RPI, even including the year we had Louisville. The Big East has finished no worse than 4th any year of its 10-team NBE existence. The New Big East is a categorically BETTER basketball conference on the court, in public perception, in brand, and in the eyes of the NCAA committee. If the NBE is small time, WTF is the AAC? Tiny time. Look, I get why people are crapping the bed about the NBE: football and its probable death as a UConn sport if we move to the Big East. But here is the reality: unless Texas and Oklahoma move to the Pac-12, we have NO shot at the Big 10. We have a 0% chance of joining the ACC, and at this point I don't think it would make sense to join a weakened Big 12 if Texas, Oklahoma, and possibly Kansas are all gone.
Football as a sport is about to go into its death throws: CTE is going to seriously injure it in the next decade, and let me clarify, I watched all of our football games this year. I have always rooted for UConn football, but that ship has sailed. I enjoyed major CFB at UConn while it lasted but we are now effectively in CFB apartheid and we ain't the white people. We play 1-aa football in the AAC for what it's worth. In review, most people don't even know what conference we are in. It's time for a change. It's time for the Big East.
 
The neew Big East would be an upgrade in almost everyway and would help in marketing the program. People who think we should hold out for a p5 invite are delusional.
 
If somehow uconn and Cincy could get into the new BEast, you would have a great bball league.
We wouldn't need Cincy to get into the league, and they wouldn't get in any way with Xavier blocking them.
 
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