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Seth Greenberg on UConn & the Big East

What geographic footprint? We have schools from all over and we have recruits from all over. We don't fit the profile of the New Big East at all. We would be the only public school in the NBE, have far and away the largest enrollment, only school that isn't currently religiously-affiliated other than Butler which historically was. UConn needs to be where the biggest payout is, unless it's the ACC v B1G at which point other factors can be debated.
 
Greenberg is absolutely right. Same thing many of us have said.

PS: Right before Seth said that about us, they were talking about Rutgers-Michigan State game, and he said that Rutgers is playing tough and rebounding well like UCONN USED TO.
 
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KSC94 said:
What geographic footprint? We have schools from all over and we have recruits from all over. We don't fit the profile of the New Big East at all. We would be the only public school in the NBE, have far and away the largest enrollment, only school that isn't currently religiously-affiliated other than Butler which historically was. UConn needs to be where the biggest payout is, unless it's the ACC v B1G at which point other factors can be debated.
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The Big East is a bunch of basketball schools, the AAC isn't. If the money is there and we can find a place for the football team you would be insane to not want us playing basketball against other basketball schools. Don't know the answer but it's past time the school got creative, we're on life support in the AAC. Big East is all of those things you said it is but it's also a million times better to watch than the conference we're stuck in.
 
I think it is time to entertain the Big East. Every day I lean more and more towards that as a solution to recent bball woes. I also think there is a mutual interest too. Do what you can with football. Ya, it might be improving, but will never be even close to even 2nd tier schools, it is about time we stop kidding ourselves with that. At best they get back to 8-4 type seasons and forgettable bowl games. Uconn is bball first, like it or not. Time to go back with other (bball first) schools like Nova, St. Johns, Gtown, Shall and Providence, all rivals in the recent (past 35 years or so) past. Other non rivals like Xavier and other teams with recent success like Butler and decent to (in some years) good teams like Marquette and Creighton will also be solid on the schedule. Depaul? Lol....But hey, I have a fondness for (and only) Cincy from the aac, see if they would join too, imagine that league!

Uconn has been blackballed enough by the ACC, I think that door has, sadly closed, and now espn is starting to join in, barely ever mentioning Uconn. (Uconn should at least be in the mid 60s for that dumb Bilas top 68 article).

After that, can schedule Cuse every year as a key OOC game.
 
John said:
AAC to P5. Anything else is a road to ruin.
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I think that's pretty well documented. It's obviously best to be in a P5 all-sports league. That being said, what's the second best option? Right now, UConn is gambling is the future of its basketball program(s) by maintaining football and hoping to get into a P5. Unfortunately, UConn has no control over that. What is the breaking point? When do they cut their losses, throw football overboard, and save basketball? One thing's for certain - staying indefinitely in the AAC with mediocre basketball and bad football is the absolute worst option.
 
The old BE is gone. We do nothing until the winds of the next AAC contract begin to blow. These guys talking have no stake in the game and will not suffer the consequences of a wrong move. It's filler to draw attention.
That said we need to continue to evaluate all options realizing that anything other than a P5 invite involves risk and there are plenty of schools in the NBE that are unlikely to move the needle for most fans. What will move the needle in either situation is winning. Same with football. That's priority 1.
 
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USNA90 said:
I think that's pretty well documented. It's obviously best to be in a P5 all-sports league. That being said, what's the second best option? Right now, UConn is gambling is the future of its basketball program(s) by maintaining football and hoping to get into a P5. Unfortunately, UConn has no control over that. What is the breaking point? When do they cut their losses, throw football overboard, and save basketball? One thing's for certain - staying indefinitely in the AAC with mediocre basketball and bad football is the absolute worst option.
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John is banking on the American becoming a P5.
 
Jimdish255 said:
The old BE is gone. We do nothing until the winds of the next AAC contract begin to blow. These guys talking have no stake in the game and will not suffer the consequences of a wrong move. It's filler to draw attention.
That said we need to continue to evaluate all options realizing that anything other than a P5 invite involves risk and there are plenty of schools in the NBE that are unlikely to move the needle for most fans. What will move the needle in either situation is winning. Same with football. That's priority 1.
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The old Big East has been gone since the 90's, It's still a really good basketball league though.
 
superjohn said:
The Big East is a bunch of basketball schools, the AAC isn't. If the money is there and we can find a place for the football team you would be insane to not want us playing basketball against other basketball schools. Don't know the answer but it's past time the school got creative, we're on life support in the AAC. Big East is all of those things you said it is but it's also a million times better to watch than the conference we're stuck in.
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So Cinci, Temple, Memphis and WSU aren’t basketball schools? Houston has done more in basketball than 3/4 of the NBE. SMU built a program that has won ever year since this league existed. UCF just beat a ranked Alabama.

It’s a bunch of nonsense. With WSU in the fold, the differences in level of play are minor. The geography favors the Big East a bit, but not all that much beyond PC and St John’s.
 
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We'll go to the Big East when he lands a major head coaching job. He is an idiot. No worse, an idiot with a platform.
 
And again. How about you do your G*d d*mn job Greenberg and give a pre-game analysis? No wonder why he failed at his previous jobs...
 
I use to say no way... but football has shown inability to improve and we are not getting into any conference soon. I am now 51% sure we need to go to leave the AAC regardless of how much better it is getting. Geography has killed the program. No doubt about it.
 
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USNA90 said:
I think that's pretty well documented. It's obviously best to be in a P5 all-sports league. That being said, what's the second best option? Right now, UConn is gambling is the future of its basketball program(s) by maintaining football and hoping to get into a P5. Unfortunately, UConn has no control over that. What is the breaking point? When do they cut their losses, throw football overboard, and save basketball? One thing's for certain - staying indefinitely in the AAC with mediocre basketball and bad football is the absolute worst option.
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If you want a flagship to turn into a regional catholic school be my guest .. off to the New BE
 
Travelman32 said:
I think it is time to entertain the Big East. Every day I lean more and more towards that as a solution to recent bball woes. I also think there is a mutual interest too. Do what you can with football. Ya, it might be improving, but will never be even close to even 2nd tier schools, it is about time we stop kidding ourselves with that. At best they get back to 8-4 type seasons and forgettable bowl games. Uconn is bball first, like it or not. Time to go back with other (bball first) schools like Nova, St. Johns, Gtown, Shall and Providence, all rivals in the recent (past 35 years or so) past. Other non rivals like Xavier and other teams with recent success like Butler and decent to (in some years) good teams like Marquette and Creighton will also be solid on the schedule. Depaul? Lol....But hey, I have a fondness for (and only) Cincy from the aac, see if they would join too, imagine that league!

Uconn has been blackballed enough by the ACC, I think that door has, sadly closed, and now espn is starting to join in, barely ever mentioning Uconn. (Uconn should at least be in the mid 60s for that dumb Bilas top 68 article).

After that, can schedule Cuse every year as a key OOC game.
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Yes yes yes.
 
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