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Senior Camp Approaches - Mitchell Says She's Seen The Light

hoophuskee said:
I don't know about others -- but I'm curious if you thought I was out-of-line for calling her arrogant? Players have to be a little of both (arrogant and selfish), right?
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Geno tries to recruit winners, those who have won championship, and those who have a high degree of confidence.
If you go back and read the comments Megan Walker made before she opted to go to Uconn, this past spring, some would say--arrogant.
We all have to realize not all kid react the same way--But--after 4 or 6 or 8 years of being told weekly, monthly, daily that you are super great and the top schools in WBB want you--if that does not make one ARROGANT--nothing shall.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
Has Ohio State gotten to the Elite 8 during Mitchell's run? Can you name an Ohio State player who is better with Mitchell on the court?
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Nearly everyone that plays with her is better because of her, she doesn't coach the Buckeyes she's just a player and to put the fact that they don't win on her shoulders is ridiculous. Why didn't I see this kind of criticism of Kelsey Plum on this Board last year? All she got was universal praise from the BY faithful and what did she and her team win? Which player on Connecticut's team is to blame for them not winning the Natty this year, since now we're blaming individual players for their team's lack of a championship?
 
iamcbs said:
Nearly everyone that plays with her is better because of her, she doesn't coach the Buckeyes she's just a player and to put the fact that they don't win on her shoulders is ridiculous. Why didn't I see this kind of criticism of Kelsey Plum on this Board last year? All she got was universal praise from the BY faithful and what did she and her team win? Which player on Connecticut's team is to blame for them not winning the Natty this year, since now we're blaming individual players for their team's lack of a championship?
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Ok, let me give this a shot:
Using last years season stats-
KP Ave 31.6 pts, 5.2 reb, 4.8 assists, 1.6 steals and 2.5 turnovers. Shooting 53.7%
KM Ave 22.6 pts, 2.8 reb, 3.9 assists, 1.2 steals and 2.2 turnovers. Shooting 43.7%
KP numbers dominate especially considering the shooting percentage, which means less shots she takes to make more points and distribute to her teammates.
UW played in a significantly harder conference than OSU, with more wins.
UW had significantly less talent than OSU ( AA's and HG rankings)
Ms Mitchell is on record as saying she hated USA Basketball and would never participate again. KM was also highly ranked coming in -top 7? While KP was high 20's?
Plus add in the optics of McGuff hiring her dad to get her and you have a bullseye on your back!
Kelsey Mitchell can play, no doubt, does the sum of her parts create a better team? No, I don't think so.
 
DefenseBB said:
Ok, let me give this a shot:
Using last years season stats-
KP Ave 31.6 pts, 5.2 reb, 4.8 assists, 1.6 steals and 2.5 turnovers. Shooting 53.7%
KM Ave 22.6 pts, 2.8 reb, 3.9 assists, 1.2 steals and 2.2 turnovers. Shooting 43.7%
KP numbers dominate especially considering the shooting percentage, which means less shots she takes to make more points and distribute to her teammates.
UW played in a significantly harder conference than OSU, with more wins.
UW had significantly less talent than OSU ( AA's and HG rankings)
Ms Mitchell is on record as saying she hated USA Basketball and would never participate again. KM was also highly ranked coming in -top 7? While KP was high 20's?
Plus add in the optics of McGuff hiring her dad to get her and you have a bullseye on your back!
Kelsey Mitchell can play, no doubt, does the sum of her parts create a better team? No, I don't think so.
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Yeah, so there! iamcbs, your facile comparison between Kelsey's never weres and a 37-1 team who lost in overtime in the Final 4 is as unpersuasive as your categorical she makes everyone who steps on the court with her better. Some skills as a ball player she does not have and apparently scorns. She can score. But, I suspect a whole lot of WNBAers would not like to see her put on their team jersey.
 
Mitchell reminds me of the Penn State alumni, Kelly Mazante. She was a two time AA and set the B1G all-time scorer. She was a first round selection by Indiana, if I'm not mistaken. Kelly lasted 2 to 3 years in the WNBA! Mitchell like Mazante is one dimensional who has never tried to advance her game!
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
Mitchell reminds me of the Penn State alumni, Kelly Mazante. She was a two time AA and set the B1G all-time scorer. She was a first round selection by Indiana, if I'm not mistaken. Kelly lasted 2 to 3 years in the WNBA! Mitchell like Mazante is one dimensional who has never tried to advance her game!
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Charlotte Sting.. We picked her in the second round in the 2004 draft. Picked up Nicole Powell at #3.
 
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JordyG said:
Charles Barkley had a pretty significant career. One of the top 50 players of all time and a member of the Dream Team. Yet he too never won anything significant (beyond that championship) at the pro level. In the end MVP awards and scoring titles are insignificant. All people want to know is how many chips have you won.
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You really are not speaking of FAN's . OR I'm a very minor minority, because I liked/like players for the play. I have my favorite teams that's true. But top players of any team got my attention. I believe Charles was an ODU player--frankly I never heard much about him until the Pros'--then he became well advertised.
 
iamcbs said:
Barkley is a wealthy man, HOF'er and one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA history, as he's said on many occsiaons he would have loved to win a title but he wouldn't trade careers with Kenny Smith, his braodcast partner who won 2 NBA titles, or a bunch of other guys who won titles. At the end of the day, I'd rather have Kelsey Mitchell than Kelly Faris, Carolyn Doty or Tiffany Hayes, all of whom won multiple titles at Connecticut.
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And that is why Ohio State has trouble winning the weak Big 10 title!
 
schmendrick said:
This is a kid. This is how she winds herself up to compete at a level none of us could ever approach.

I find many of these comments stomach-turning.
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She is 21 now. She is not a kid. There are a few of us that have played or coached at this level or higher. Because you didnt dont put everyone at your level!
 
iamcbs said:
Nearly everyone that plays with her is better because of her, she doesn't coach the Buckeyes she's just a player and to put the fact that they don't win on her shoulders is ridiculous. Why didn't I see this kind of criticism of Kelsey Plum on this Board last year? All she got was universal praise from the BY faithful and what did she and her team win? Which player on Connecticut's team is to blame for them not winning the Natty this year, since now we're blaming individual players for their team's lack of a championship?
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Kelsey Plum and Washington made a FF in 2016. Uconn lost to Mississippi State Because the team played awful and the Bulldogs had something to do with that.
 
BroadwayVa said:
You really are not speaking of FAN's . OR I'm a very minor minority, because I liked/like players for the play. I have my favorite teams that's true. But top players of any team got my attention. I believe Charles was an ODU player--frankly I never heard much about him until the Pros'--then he became well advertised.
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Alabama The Round Mound of Rebound Was drafted by My Philadelphia 76ers!!!
 
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