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Selection Show thread (7 ET, ESPN)

Gus Mahler said:
I've arrived late to the party, but I'm stupefied at the idea that UConn got a rough deal in the bracket.

First of all, we would crush Syracuse, but may not even play them. Echoing oldude, if we can't win two games in Storrs against an 8 seed or lower, we certainly don't deserve a championship.

UConn would crush UCLA. Ditto for Texas A&M. Also Duke. The only concerns are WVU and Maryland. I know nothing about WVU, but if Geno says they're good I'll go with that. Could Maryland beat us? Sure. Of course they could beat us. But they couldn't beat us at home in front of a big crowd with several UConn players under the weather. And didn't Gabby or Pheesa or both have foul trouble? I'm perfectly comfortable playing them for the FF on any court. But they might not survive WVU!

If UConn is healthy and brings it's A- game or above, they power through the regional and enter the Final Four by kicking down the doors.
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You know nothing about West Virginia yet are stupefied anyone might think the bracket is tough? Kinda explains a lot.

In the last week, West Virginia beat Oklahoma by 30, beat #3 seed Texas, and blew out #1 seed Baylor. They are the 6th seed in our region.
 
Bigboote said:
The biggest jaw-dropper for me is Drake being a 10 seed. And they have to play at K State.
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Again, another geography matchup that was likely achieved by bumping down a seed line.
 
Plebe said:
I suspect they bumped Tennessee from a 6 to a 5 in order to put them at Louisville. This committee clearly had a strong geography focus.
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Yet UCLA got sent east while Miami got sent to Stockton?
 
SCspur said:
I highly disagree first of all your very contradicting and it seems your biased towards SC. How can you say Baylor is the weakest #1 seed but have them making the final four ? The only problem SC should have is traveling across 3 time zones. None of the top 4 seeds in Stockton worry me. Org St only has Wiese, take her away and make others score like Stanford did. Fl st is struggling right now and lack the height. Miami is streaky and not very good defensively.
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Well I sure hope we get the chance to see SC play OSU, assuming they both make it to the Elite 8.
 
ASweet3781 said:
You know nothing about West Virginia yet are stupefied anyone might think the bracket is tough? Kinda explains a lot.

In the last week, West Virginia beat Oklahoma by 30, beat #3 seed Texas, and blew out #1 seed Baylor. They are the 6th seed in our region.
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Look at it this way. UConn won't have to beat both West Virginia and Maryland. It's quite possible that neither one makes the regional final.
 
Interesting post by someone with the handle "Canadaball" on RebKell's Junkie Boards,

"Last year, 4 male coached teams made the Final 4. This year, in studying the brackets, it ia apparent that the all women seeding committee did everything possible to avoid a repeat. There are 26 male coached teams in the 2017 field. Somehow 10 found their way into UConn's bracket. Male coached West Virginia put on a huge late season run beating, in succession, 6 seed Oklahoma, 3 seed Texas and 1 seed Baylor. This legitimate longshot for the Final 4 was lowseeded at 6, and given the UConn checkmate. Look at poor male coached Syracuse given an 8 seed. Miami got a coveted home seed at 4 despite getting buried by Syracuse in their only meeting this year, and having a worse ACC record. Just to be sure Syracuse would not repeat last year's Final 4 run, they too were given the UConn checkmate.
Looking at the other male coached legitimate teams not in UConn's bracket, some get matched with other male coached teams; thus we see 4 seed Kentucky colliding with 5 seed OSU; Louisville (4 seed) gets Jim Foster coached Chattanooga in first round, and the dangerous Tennesse in second round. Note that the Baylor and South Carolina brackets have precious few male coached top 6 seeds.[/b]"

Seeing conspiracy where there is none, lies, throwing up straw dogs, conjecture based on supposition or conjecture based on fact? Anyone?
 
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ASweet3781 said:
Yet UCLA got sent east while Miami got sent to Stockton?
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They like keeping teams within "driving distance" (defined as 350 miles) of their playing site. Knoxville to Louisville is within that. Miami to Storrs isn't.

Same reason they kept Baylor in OKC and sent SC to Stockton.
 
Plebe said:
They like keeping teams within "driving distance" (defined as 350 miles) of their playing site. Knoxville to Louisville is within that. Miami to Storrs isn't.

Same reason they kept Baylor in OKC and sent SC to Stockton.
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Still kinda weird to send UCLA all the way east instead of Stockton based on geography, S Curve, balance etc. Only explanation I have is they wanted to make sure UConn has the toughest possible opponent it could have each round.
 
JordyG said:
Interesting post by someone with the handle "Canadaball" on RebKell's Junkie Boards,

"Last year, 4 male coached teams made the Final 4. This year, in studying the brackets, it ia apparent that the all women seeding committee did everything possible to avoid a repeat. There are 26 male coached teams in the 2017 field. Somehow 10 found their way into UConn's bracket. Male coached West Virginia put on a huge late season run beating, in succession, 6 seed Oklahoma, 3 seed Texas and 1 seed Baylor. This legitimate longshot for the Final 4 was lowseeded at 6, and given the UConn checkmate. Look at poor male coached Syracuse given an 8 seed. Miami got a coveted home seed at 4 despite getting buried by Syracuse in their only meeting this year, and having a worse ACC record. Just to be sure Syracuse would not repeat last year's Final 4 run, they too were given the UConn checkmate.
Looking at the other male coached legitimate teams not in UConn's bracket, some get matched with other male coached teams; thus we see 4 seed Kentucky colliding with 5 seed OSU; Louisville (4 seed) gets Jim Foster coached Chattanooga in first round, and the dangerous Tennesse in second round. Note that the Baylor and South Carolina brackets have precious few male coached top 6 seeds.[/b]"

Seeing conspiracy where there is none, throwing up straw dogs, conjecture based on supposition or conjecture based on fact? Anyone?
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Let's see here. The head coaches of the 2, 3 and 4 seeds in the Bridgeport region are all females. So I'm skeptical.
 
ASweet3781 said:
Still kinda weird to send UCLA all the way east instead of Stockton based on geography, S Curve, balance etc. Only explanation I have is they wanted to make sure UConn has the toughest possible opponent it could have each round.
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They can't send UCLA to Stockton if Oregon State is there. They followed the S-curve for the 2 and 3 seeds and then had no choice at that point to pick UCLA as the 4. One of the top 4 Pac-12 teams had to go to each regional.
 
Plebe said:
They can't send UCLA to Stockton if Oregon State is there. They followed the S-curve for the 2 and 3 seeds and then had no choice at that point to pick UCLA as the 4. One of the top 4 Pac-12 teams had to go to each regional.
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That seems like an odd rule. Oregon State and UCLA can't meet in a regional final?
 
ASweet3781 said:
That seems like an odd rule. Oregon State and UCLA can't meet in a regional final?
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How can anyone defend one region being more challenging than another region? I think the selection committee did as well as any other "selection committee" could have done. Let the games begin!
 
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ASweet3781 said:
That seems like an odd rule. Oregon State and UCLA can't meet in a regional final?
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That's right. The rule is that the top 4 teams from a conference must be placed in separate regions if they are on the top 4 seed lines.

This is also why Notre Dame, Duke, Florida State, and Louisville (the top 4 from the ACC) were each placed in a separate regional.

I believe this rule was instituted after the Elite 8 game in 2011 between Baylor and Texas A&M, which elicited a lot of complaints.
 
Plebe said:
That's right. The rule is that the top 4 teams from a conference must be placed in separate regions if they are on the top 4 seed lines.

This is also why Notre Dame, Duke, Florida State, and Louisville (the top 4 from the ACC) were each placed in a separate regional.

I believe this rule was instituted after the Elite 8 game in 2011 between Baylor and Texas A&M, which no one was really happy about.
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Oh, Power 5 protection at all costs I guess.
 
ASweet3781 said:
The only leagues who would have enough good teams to have this problem would be the Power 5.
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The AAC had a #1 seed and a #3 seed in 2014.

And is it really protection? If they put them together in the same regional, some might complain that the committee is trying to guarantee that a team from that conference makes the Final Four. If they're separated, they might all advance ... or they might all lose.
 
ASweet3781 said:
You know nothing about West Virginia yet are stupefied anyone might think the bracket is tough? Kinda explains a lot.

In the last week, West Virginia beat Oklahoma by 30, beat #3 seed Texas, and blew out #1 seed Baylor. They are the 6th seed in our region.
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True, but if UCONN faces them it'll be in place of Maryland...I think every Connecticut fan will be quite pleased to face WVU at home instead of Maryland in the Elite 8. Even if WVU presents challenges, Connecticut should steamroll to the Elite 8 and will be playing at home to reach the Final Four. Regardless of opponent in the Elite 8, if any team upsets Connecticut before the Final Four, it'll unquestionably be the biggest upset in NCAA history. They're a lock to make it to Dallas.
 
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bballnut90 said:
True, but if UCONN faces them it'll be in place of Maryland...I think every Connecticut fan will be quite pleased to face WVU at home instead of Maryland in the Elite 8. Even if WVU presents challenges, Connecticut should steamroll to the Elite 8 and will be playing at home to reach the Final Four. Regardless of opponent in the Elite 8, if any team upsets Connecticut before the Final Four, it'll unquestionably be the biggest upset in NCAA history. They're a lock to make it to Dallas.
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Louisville as a 5 seed over Baylor in 2012 was a bigger upset IMO. At that time no one considered Louisville a serious threat. Not the case with Maryland this year.
 
If I got the bracket Dawn got I'd play it in Afghanistan if I could. If South Carolina doesn't make it to Dallas out of that region it's on her.

The state of South Carolina is hosting men's first rounds. Any city in the state step up and bid to host a women's regional? Kentucky was always going to go to Lexington making it impossible for them to put USC there as well.

I think a lot of these athletic departments are all talk and no action when it comes to really supporting their women's team. See Stanford having to play on the road due to a gymnastics tournament. See UConn still being in the AAC. Fairfield Univ/MAAC steps up and bids every year and that's why it gets selected because of us. I am positive with South Carolina's great fan support the NCAA would pick a site close to SC if they bid. If no one bid that's on them.
 
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Plebe said:
Louisville as a 5 seed over Baylor in 2012 was a bigger upset IMO. At that time no one considered Louisville a serious threat. Not the case with Maryland this year.
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It's a close call. UCONN is undefeated and has won 107 games in a row plus they'll essentially be playing at home. I think the Baylor upset was the most shocking since absolutely no one saw it coming, but in the grand scheme of things, I think this would take the cake factoring in the win streak, home advantage, and breaking a streak of 9 straight Final Fours and 4 consecutive titles.
 
bballnut90 said:
It's a close call. UCONN is undefeated and has won 107 games in a row plus they'll essentially be playing at home. I think the Baylor upset was the most shocking since absolutely no one saw it coming, but in the grand scheme of things, I think this would take the cake factoring in the win streak, home advantage, and breaking a streak of 9 straight Final Fours and 4 consecutive titles.
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This particular UConn team hasn't won 107 in a row. They're undefeated this season, yes, but they've had some very close calls this year.

Baylor that year had lost a 2-point game to Stanford, but other than that had won almost all of its games by double digits (much like the 2015 UConn team). They beat Notre Dame by 12 in South Bend and beat UConn by 6 in Hartford. By the end of the season people were saying Baylor was "a lock." The 2017 UConn team has been only slightly more dominant than the 2013 Baylor team was. If Imani Wright's shot goes in, their seasons would look virtually identical.

Louisville of 2012-13 entered the tourney with 8 losses, and both of their games with Notre Dame had been blowouts. They were not expected to challenge for a Final Four, period. There's a massive gap between the level of that Louisville team level heading into the tournament and Maryland's level this year.
 
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BlueDevils said:
Duke vs Uconn elite 8. PLEASE basketball gods.
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The gods have done their part to make that happen. It's time for the teams to do theirs.

And by that I mean, Lexie better be goin' into slay mode against her former coach. ;)
 
Plebe said:
The gods have done their part to make that happen. It's time for the teams to do theirs.

And by that I mean, Lexie better be goin' into slay mode against her former coach. ;)
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Hopefully no upsets happen and we're lucky enough to see that happen. If so, I for one will definitely be paying attention to the end game handshakes.
 
Plebe said:
That's right. The rule is that the top 4 teams from a conference must be placed in separate regions if they are on the top 4 seed lines.

This is also why Notre Dame, Duke, Florida State, and Louisville (the top 4 from the ACC) were each placed in a separate regional.

I believe this rule was instituted after the Elite 8 game in 2011 between Baylor and Texas A&M, which elicited a lot of complaints.
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Not to nitpick...but NCState was the #4 team in the ACC, due to tiebreaker wins over Duke and Louisville. Louisville finished in 5th place.
 
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