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Message: [QUOTE="jonson, post: 3209417, member: 6034"] Although I usually agree with your posts, the "hands-off, West Coast hippie" comment seems to me condescending, as has been the case with a fair number of posts about Graves on this board. Yes, he likes to leave his players alone as much as possible during games, and, yes, he can be a funny guy, but his practices are, by all accounts, not easy, and Oregon didn't lead the nation in assist to turnover ratio with a coach who wasn't demanding or didn't pay attention to detail. (We had one of those right before Graves arrived.) It also seems all too easy to forget his success at Gonzaga, along with (for example) the fact that one of the premier point guards in the WBA played for him (Vandersloot), with another sure to follow. It's also worth noting Maite Cazorla's quiet (as always, in her case) success as an NBA rookie this year (she was ranked 100 on Hoopgurlz and spoke very little English when she arrived in Eugene) or the transformation of a very raw Ruthy Hebard into (according to ESPN) one of the coming season's top seniors. Of course he's not Geno--who is?--but there are good reasons why Geno predicted that Graves would make a final four immediately after he was hired some 5 years ago now. [/QUOTE]