Sedona Prince

[bballnut90]

Any word if her waiver has been approved or not? Or any updates regarding her rehab progress?

 

[PAC-12HoopFan]

Prince's waiver appeal denial is now official. Reported on the Oregon website today.

Prince Waiver Denied by NCAA - University of Oregon Athletics

Sedona Prince's request for a waiver to play for the Oregon women's basketball team this season has been denied by the NCAA

goducks.com

 

[bballnut90]

Prince's waiver appeal denial is now official. Reported on the Oregon website today.

Prince Waiver Denied by NCAA - University of Oregon Athletics

Sedona Prince's request for a waiver to play for the Oregon women's basketball team this season has been denied by the NCAA

goducks.com

NCAA seems to be coming down with the hammer now that everyone appeals for waivers. Could Prince be eligible for a 6th year since she had the injury and transfer? Or will the transfer be her first year of eligibility used up?

 

[DaBball]

NCAA seems to be coming down with the hammer now that everyone appeals for waivers. Could Prince be eligible for a 6th year since she had the injury and transfer? Or will the transfer be her first year of eligibility used up?

Most likely. I think she still has to apply for it, but the sixth year is typically granted from what I remember. Perhaps a waiver specialist could chime in.

Prince likely wishing she chose Notre Dame right about now.

 

[bballnut90]

Most likely. I think she still has to apply for it, but the sixth year is typically granted from what I remember. Perhaps a waiver specialist could chime in.

Prince likely wishing she chose Notre Dame right about now.

Why do you say that? You mean out of HS?

 

[DaBball]

Why do you say that? You mean out of HS?

It's the Notre Dame waiver joke...

As a side note, this is the Oregon player who was a member of the 2018 class that will not play for two consecutive seasons, the other being Nyara Sabally who has torn her ACL twice. It'll be interesting to see how long they stick around.

 

[DefenseBB]

Why do you say that? You mean out of HS?

No, from the fact that Shepard was granted an immediate waiver upon transferring in fromNebraska....

 

[JonathanXIV]

It's the Notre Dame waiver joke...

Always a classic.

 

[southie]

Not surprised. The initial waiver request was denied long ago.

Then, coincidentally, around the same time the appeal was filed, there was the release of that Oregonian interview with Sedona (which supposedly happened very many months ago). Guess the NCAA just didn't believe her smear campaign against the Texas medical staff folks.

I mean, former Georgia QB Justin Fields can use a racial slur issued by a Georgia baseball player as his reason for requesting a waiver, and get it quickly to gain immediate eligibility at Ohio State. But, Sedona's claim of medical neglect and mental pain and suffering didn't carry water with NCAA. I wonder why.

 

[Figurehead]

I heard that even if the waiver had been granted today that she is still not back to 100% and likely would not have played much in January. So not surprising unless she had went to Notre Dame. Btw, She was mentally prepared either way it went.

 

[CocoHusky]

NCAA seems to be coming down with the hammer now that everyone appeals for waivers. Could Prince be eligible for a 6th year since she had the injury and transfer? Or will the transfer be her first year of eligibility used up?

Not right wording there. She will be able to extend her 5 year clock to use her 4 years of eligibility if she chooses. That extension does not have to be submitted to the NCAA until the ended or in 2023-24 season.

 

[bballnut90]

Not right wording there. She will be able to extend her 5 year clock to use her 4 years of eligibility if she chooses. That extension does not have to be submitted to the NCAA until the ended or in 2023-24 season.

It'd be her sixth year as an undergrad or graduate:

2018-19 redshirt
2019-20 transfer
2020-21 freshman eligibility wise
2021-22 soph
2022-23 junior
2023-24 senior (if eligible)

 

[SCspur]

Does anyone know if the waivers for the women work differently from the men’s side? 5 star guard Quentin Grimes transferred from Kansas to Houston after last season and got immediate eligibility to play this year. He did transfer to a school back home but I’ve definitely seen cases when the men athletes have a little more leniency than the women.

 

[CocoHusky]

It'd be her sixth year as an undergrad or graduate:

2018-19 redshirt
2019-20 transfer
2020-21 freshman eligibility wise
2021-22 soph
2022-23 junior
2023-24 senior (if eligible)

This is accurate but incomplete you need two different counters and the class designations are irrelevant. .

A) Years in college (Maximum of 5 " Normally")
1) 2018-19 Medical redshirt
2) 2019-20 (Academic year in residence)
3) 2020-21
4) 2021-22
5) 2022-23
6) 2023-24 *Would required a waiver to participate and remaining eligibility beyond "normal" 5 year rule.

B) Years of Eligibility Used (Maximum of 4)
0) 2018-19 -None used because of medical redshirt
0) 2019-20-None used because of academic year in residence
1) 2020-21
2) 2021-22
3) 2022-23
4) 2023-24

It is a common misconception that a student loses eligibility by transferring. The 6th year on campus is almost always automatic and only requires medical documentation that a student was unable to participate.

 

[bballnut90]

This is accurate but incomplete you need two different counters and the class designations are irrelevant. .

A) Years in college (Maximum of 5 " Normally")
1) 2018-19 Medical redshirt
2) 2019-20 (Academic year in residence)
3) 2020-21
4) 2021-22
5) 2022-23
6) 2023-24 *Would required a waiver to participate and remaining eligibility beyond "normal" 5 year rule.

B) Years of Eligibility Used (Maximum of 4)
0) 2018-19 -None used because of medical redshirt
0) 2019-20-None used because of academic year in residence
1) 2020-21
2) 2021-22
3) 2022-23
4) 2023-24

It is a common misconception that a student loses eligibility by transferring. The 6th year on campus is almost always automatic and only requires medical documentation that a student was unable to participate.

Got it. If she's on track to graduate in 4, she could easily do 2 years at Oregon and transfer again for 2 years as a grad transfer. Guessing she'll want to go pro though if she is healthy and lives up to her hype.

 

[bballnut90]

This is accurate but incomplete you need two different counters and the class designations are irrelevant. .

A) Years in college (Maximum of 5 " Normally")
1) 2018-19 Medical redshirt
2) 2019-20 (Academic year in residence)
3) 2020-21
4) 2021-22
5) 2022-23
6) 2023-24 *Would required a waiver to participate and remaining eligibility beyond "normal" 5 year rule.

B) Years of Eligibility Used (Maximum of 4)
0) 2018-19 -None used because of medical redshirt
0) 2019-20-None used because of academic year in residence
1) 2020-21
2) 2021-22
3) 2022-23
4) 2023-24

It is a common misconception that a student loses eligibility by transferring. The 6th year on campus is almost always automatic and only requires medical documentation that a student was unable to participate.

Actually another question about this....does Te'a Cooper have a shot to stick around another year since this is only her 3rd year of playing? Had the injury and a transfer that took up 2 years of time. Might be in her best interest if she wants to get her masters and another year to prep for the pros. I dont see her making a roster if she were to go pro at the end of the year.

 

[Steelerone]

Does anyone know if the waivers for the women work differently from the men’s side? 5 star guard Quentin Grimes transferred from Kansas to Houston after last season and got immediate eligibility to play this year. He did transfer to a school back home but I’ve definitely seen cases when the men athletes have a little more leniency than the women.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this.

 

[southie]

Does anyone know if the waivers for the women work differently from the men’s side? 5 star guard Quentin Grimes transferred from Kansas to Houston after last season and got immediate eligibility to play this year. He did transfer to a school back home but I’ve definitely seen cases when the men athletes have a little more leniency than the women.

I don't know the answer to your question. But, in Quentin Grimes situation, he declared for the NBA draft, but did not hire an agent. He decided to withdraw his name from the Draft. Kansas had already given away his scholarship. Hope I remember that right. So, that was the reason he received a waiver.

 

[CocoHusky]

Actually another question about this....does Te'a Cooper have a shot to stick around another year since this is only her 3rd year of playing? Had the injury and a transfer that took up 2 years of time. Might be in her best interest if she wants to get her masters and another year to prep for the pros. I dont see her making a roster if she were to go pro at the end of the year.

I'm not sure and contrary to what I said earlier there are some funky rules regarding transfer within a conference. Don't know if those are still in place but Cooper went from TN to South Carolina and might have lost a year of eligibility in the process.

 

[Figurehead]

Sedona's latest tweet:



Although I am deeply saddened by the NCAA’s decision, I am so blessed to be surrounded by my amazing teammates and coaches. There is no other school in the country I would rather play for, and I can’t express enough gratitude for everything Oregon has done for me. #freesedona

9 replies 59 retweets 558 likes

 

[UConnCat]

 

[southie]

Can't believe Oregon WBB twitter is tweeting that; nothing to gain from it. They aren't getting on the NCAA's good side, that's for sure.

 

[Figurehead]

Can't believe Oregon WBB twitter is tweeting that; nothing to gain from it. They aren't getting on the NCAA's good side, that's for sure.

What is the good side of the NCAA?

Glad to see Geno is staying on their good side. LOL! Geno was nothing but silent on waivers, yeah, right.

“Knowing the facts of this case, I am at a loss for how the NCAA Committee for Legislative Relief decided not to grant a transfer waiver for Evina Westbrook,” “It is clear that the system we have in place failed and I hope to be a contributor to a reformed process in the near future. For now though, we will continue to support Evina and her family in every way that we can.”

 

[southie]

What is the good side of the NCAA?

Glad to see Geno is staying on their good side. LOL! Geno was nothing but silent on waivers, yeah, right.

“Knowing the facts of this case, I am at a loss for how the NCAA Committee for Legislative Relief decided not to grant a transfer waiver for Evina Westbrook,” “It is clear that the system we have in place failed and I hope to be a contributor to a reformed process in the near future. For now though, we will continue to support Evina and her family in every way that we can.”

Point taken.

Either way, taking shots on twitter because you didn't get your way is futile. If they think that's gonna help other waivers (for any school), they're wrong.

 

[Figurehead]

Point taken.

Either way, taking shots on twitter because you didn't get your way is futile. If they think that's gonna help other waivers (for any school), they're wrong.

Personally just like paying athletes at some point I see this all changing. Whether by legislation, legal action or enough schools saying enough is enough. On the west coast and maybe in the other areas of the country the NCAA is not perceived that highly. I thought the comments were rather mild compared to the factions daily at war here over team rankings of all things.