Seattle Storm vs New York Liberty - 7/25/20

[Reypl21]

Seattle is deep. They have to be the favorite this year.

 

[Adriacus]

Clarendon was playing PG. Ionescu was at SG. Ionescu’s assist to turnover ratio was 1 to 1. That ratio is poor. Her shooting % was horrid. Lloyd scored efficiently against her [56% shooting]. Seattle was +20 in Lloyd’s 23 minutes. Those are not encouraging stats.

 

[eebmg]

Seattle is deep. They have to be the favorite this year.

and Magebor is going to be a stud. Her development helped by Lauren Jackson

 

[nwhoopfan]

Clarendon was playing PG. Ionescu was at SG. Ionescu’s assist to turnover ratio was 1 to 1. That ratio is poor. Her shooting % was horrid. Lloyd scored efficiently against her [56% shooting]. Seattle was +20 in Lloyd’s 23 minutes. Those are not encouraging stats.

So, you clearly have an axe to grind here, yeah?

New York's roster is just not good top to bottom. No rookie is gonna come in and magically transform them into a contender. Ionescu doesn't have much to work with in terms of teammates, especially with Nurse getting injured early in the game.

But you're probably right, we should just go ahead and write Sabrina off after her WNBA debut. No other player has ever struggled in their first game and gone on to be a solid pro, right?

 

[Orangutan]

Considering it’s her first game, it’s excellent. PG is the hardest transition to the WNBA. Couldn’t have asked more from her other than hitting more shots, and that’s quibbling. Definitely not looking like a bust. I remember Diggins and Vandersloot having forgettable rookie seasons.

I do think it's important that she hits shots if she's going to take 17 a game.

But I hear ya. That will come with time. And you're right about PG being the position with the toughest adjustment.

 

[domerduck]

Maybe I was watching a different game but Ionescu shot 4 for 17. She is obviously limited athletically. She needs space to score and not sure she can create her own shot consistently. Wondering how she will fare when she faces elite defensive guards.

I watched every minutes of her 4 years at Oregon. She shot 42.2% for threes making 329 in her four years.
Today she missed all 8 3 pt shots and she was open for every one. Overall the two teams shot only 25% for threes as they got used to playing with no crowd in the Wubble in their 1st game. Still Sabrina was 45% for 2 point shot and created a few of them.

I agree she was tight today learning a new system with no low presence in the paint. Ionescu will make those shots and she wll be fine.

 

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[triaddukefan]

How did Odom look?

 

[domerduck]

Thanks for sharing.. You wacth those highlight and I wonder how Adriacus thinks Sabrina can't create her own shots. She'll make her threes when as she gets more comfortbale with the system and her role.

 

[Adriacus]

So, you clearly have an axe to grind here, yeah?

No axe grinding. But the stats/results/eye test don’t support the descriptions above [“great, “excellent”]. Her debut was rough. Some good, more bad. Not close to the worst ever for a #1 overall pick but not close to the best ever for a #1 overall pick.
Ionescu had trouble in college against athletic & defensive minded teams [Baylor, Louisville, etc.]. She will be facing those types of players/teams regularly now.
History shows that more first round picks fail than succeed. Presuming success isn’t warranted. Ionescu’s success depends on her ability to create space and score in much smaller windows of opportunity. Every player has to make that adjustment.....but her average athleticism makes it a bigger item for her.

 

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[domerduck]

How did Odom look?

Made her shots going 4-6. She has an upside and they played her a lot (28 minutes). Still she had the worst +/- for the Liberty at -18.

 

[domerduck]

No axe grinding. But the stats/results/eye test don’t support the descriptions above [“great, “excellent”]. Her debut was rough. Some good, more bad. Not close to the worst ever for a #1 overall pick but not close to the best ever for a #1 overall pick.
Ionescu had trouble in college against athletic & defensive minded teams [Baylor, Louisville, etc.]. She will be facing those types of players/teams regularly now.
History shows that more first round picks fail than succeed. Presuming success isn’t warranted. Ionescu’s success depends on her ability to create space and score in much smaller windows of opportunity. Every player has to make that adjustment.....but her average athleticism makes it a bigger item for her.

Wow...you pick two games when they focused the defense on her and she wasn't as effective. That L'ville game was the 3rd game in three days where Walz admitted he focused the whole trip on trying to beat Oregon. The guy who stopped Griner in college can put together a pretty good D plan.

I guess you didn't see her play against Team USA, Stanford, Maryland, Missisippi State, and a whole bunch of good teams. I'd say she has at least as good as athleticism as Sue Bird who has had a pretty good WNBA career following up her stellar college career. Sabrina will do fine.

 

[baggerbob]

and Magebor is going to be a stud. Her development helped by Lauren Jackson

Seattle in Ezi and Russell have 2 good frontcourt players off the bench. If Tuck gets back they will be even better.

 

[garddog]

Seattle in Ezi and Russell have 2 good frontcourt players off the bench. If Tuck gets back they will be even better.

I think magbegor ends up taking most of Mercedes minutes by end of season.

 

[Shades]

I think magbegor ends up taking most of Mercedes minutes by end of season.

That would surprise me. Langhorne, maybe.

 

[topogigio]

Sabrina was a great college basketball player, but I believe her skill set does not translate equally in the pro game. Time will tell.

 

[nwhoopfan]

No axe grinding. But the stats/results/eye test don’t support the descriptions above [“great, “excellent”]. Her debut was rough. Some good, more bad. Not close to the worst ever for a #1 overall pick but not close to the best ever for a #1 overall pick.
Ionescu had trouble in college against athletic & defensive minded teams [Baylor, Louisville, etc.]. She will be facing those types of players/teams regularly now.
History shows that more first round picks fail than succeed. Presuming success isn’t warranted. Ionescu’s success depends on her ability to create space and score in much smaller windows of opportunity. Every player has to make that adjustment.....but her average athleticism makes it a bigger item for her.

Okay. Ogunbowale started last year shooting poorly, but she still scored because she took a lot of shots. Down the stretch she was much more efficient and was one of the top scorers in the league. I'll wait a while before passing judgement on Ionescu as a pro.

 

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[ShmiCO]

Seven rookies might not beideal for the Liberty, but maybe Megan Walker will get some good minutes.

 

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[baggerbob]

That would surprise me. Langhorne, maybe.

Langhorne will be at the end of the bench. Russell and Ezi will get plenty of playing time with teams playing every other day. Prince needs to learn to play within the offense, and Canada still gets out of control too often.
Sue, Stewie, and Loyd looked good, Clark is always the glue person, Howard will get going, will be a very good team by seasons end.