Scab refs blow a big call tonite

[WhereistheDove?]

Again, I disagree. Ratings are already down this season and keep in mind, the amount of money we're talking about is minuscule to the NFL. It is legitimately a rounding error in their profits. And regardless of whose fault it is, the league loses in the eyes of the public because the average fan is far more inclined to side with the fairly average referees than the billionaires who own the teams. Just like Goodell taking the fall for the faults of the league, it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, because that is just how it goes. If I'm one of the higher ups for the refs, after this debacle I'm feeling pretty good. These guys all have second jobs and I just don't believe the NFL will go a full season (and more importantly, the postseason) with these awful refs when the money being disputed is important really only if you want to "win" the dispute.

 

[businesslawyer]

You're arguing against a point I didn't make. If the board of a fortune 500 company steers the company in the wrong direction and its performance suffers, the CEO will take the fall for it. Just like a head coach with an underperforming team, it comes with the job. He has done an absolutely miserable job of presenting the case to the fans, treating all of us like we're four and can't tell there is BS spewing from every league spokesman about the quality of the officiating. Goodell needs to grow a pair and tell the owners what they don't want to hear... that this rounding error they're fighting over is not even close to worth the damage it's doing to the reputation of the league.

You know he hasn't how?

 

[WhereistheDove?]

You know he hasn't how?

again, it doesn't matter if he has or hasn't, the perception in the public is that the league screwed up and as the figurehead of the league he should fall. It goes with the territory.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8426996/owners-budge-latest-talks-fail-produce-deal-source-says

$100k per team to solve the pension issue.

 

[ZooCougar]

NFL should just embrace the idea of full time refs. Put them on a contract, or pay them a salary, let them have a 401k. I can't believe that the greatest sports league in the world is having an issue like this.

It is really entertaining however.

 

[whaler11]

NFL should just embrace the idea of full time refs. Put them on a contract, or pay them a salary, let them have a 401k. I can't believe that the greatest sports league in the world is having an issue like this.

It is really entertaining however.

I think they are resisting full time employees at all.

 

[ZooCougar]

Other than the military and Congress, who gets pensions anymore? Isn't it getting to be less and less in the private sector?

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

This is going to bring out the fiscal conservative in me and perhaps drive this thread to the Cesspool.

These pension plans, or as I call them, legalized Ponzie Schemes, are what's destroying state and municipal budgets. I don't blame the NFL one bit for holding the line here. Like Wing-U said.....these guys have it so rough as it is......

 

[WhereistheDove?]

You took that article, gleaned information from it that wasn't there, and then in your most condescending voice (I really hope you aren't like that in person) imply that I'm an idiot? And again, you're arguing the straw man fallacy here. I don't think they should be entitled to a pension, but when it comes down to it, the league is a billion dollar organization and I think the inconsequential amount of money you're talking about was not worth the negative press or potential for serious lawsuits had a player been injured. But congrats, you are now an internet tough guy, must be a big moment in your life!

 

[WhereistheDove?]

http://deadspin.com/5947376/how-the-referee-deal-got-done

I feel you'd be interested in this.