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Sarah Strong: Would you bet against her getting 2 triple doubles next season?

Bone Dog said:
FG% affects the total number of rebounds available. UConn led the nation in FG%. It's not unreasonable to think this would mean fewer offensive rebounds were available, and to expect that UConn's total rebounds would be lower. 37/game was 147th in the nation, which seems low for a nation championship winning team, but makes a bit more sense in combination with the FG%. The 146 teams that grabbed more rebounds than UConn would still probably have lost to them because of the rate at which they could score.
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A lot of "we have to rebound to win" people don't take that into consideration. We shoot so well, there are not near as many Off rebounds to get.
 
meyers7 said:
A lot of "we have to rebound to win" people don't take that into consideration. We shoot so well, there are not near as many Off rebounds to get.
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UConn outshot South Carolina in the 2022 title game 41%-37% but got outrebounded by 25 leading to a 15-pt loss.

UConn outshot South Carolina 52%-39% in February 2023 but got outrebounded by 12 leading to a 4-pt loss.

UConn got outshot by South Carolina only 46%-44% in November 2021 but got outrebounded by 17 leading to a 16-pt loss.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
UConn outshot South Carolina in the 2022 title game 41%-37% but got outrebounded by 25 leading to a 15-pt loss.

UConn outshot South Carolina 52%-39% in February 2023 but got outrebounded by 12 leading to a 4-pt loss.

UConn got outshot by South Carolina only 46%-44% in November 2021 but got outrebounded by 17 leading to a 16-pt loss.
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I don't know about the "out-rebound" issue, but the necessity for a dominant super-big seems not to be borne out by this year's team, which out rebounded SC by 4 and won by 23 pts, and out-rebounded UCLA by 5 and won by 34 pts. I think this was the issue @meyers7 was pointing to.

It's perfectly possible to win a game and lose the rebounding battle, and win the rebounding battle and lose the game -- as in the OU game where we were out-rebounded by 2 but won the game by 23 pts, and the USC game where we were out-rebounded by 11 but won by 14 pts. Anyone who pretends we can't win without a super-big ought to reflect on these results.

Personally, I prefer winning both aspects of a game -- scoring and rebounding, as in the regular season win over SC, where we out-rebounded them by 19 and won by 29 pts [and 35 of our 48 rebounds came from Sarah and a handful of guards] -- but perhaps we might hear less of the super-big chorus for a while after this season.
 
Bone Dog said:
I don't know about the "out-rebound" issue, but the necessity for a dominant super-big seems not to be borne out by this year's team, which out rebounded SC by 4 and won by 23 pts, and out-rebounded UCLA by 5 and won by 34 pts. I think this was the issue @meyers7 was pointing to.

It's perfectly possible to win a game and lose the rebounding battle, and win the rebounding battle and lose the game -- as in the OU game where we were out-rebounded by 2 but won the game by 23 pts, and the USC game where we were out-rebounded by 11 but won by 14 pts. Anyone who pretends we can't win without a super-big ought to reflect on these results.
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Sure, and that team had Paige Bueckers. Getting clobbered on the glass has been an issue for UConn against their main competition in recent defeats.

I could add the Final Four game against Iowa in which UConn lost by a possession while getting outrebounded by 8. That's an Iowa team with practically no size. Being stronger on the boards will make UConn's life a lot easier.

Also note that SC brought in Okot and gets Watkins back.

Forgot to mention that in the closest game UConn played in the tourney (up 5 on USC heading into the 4th), USC was plus 11 on the glass. What if they were +11 and Watkins had been healthy?
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Sure, and that team had Paige Bueckers. Getting clobbered on the glass has been an issue for UConn against their main competition in recent defeats.

I could add the Final Four game against Iowa in which UConn lost by a possession while getting outrebounded by 8. That's an Iowa team with practically no size. Being stronger on the boards will make UConn's life a lot easier.

Also note that SC brought in Okot and gets Watkins back.

Forgot to mention that in the closest game UConn played in the tourney (up 5 on USC heading into the 4th), USC was plus 11 on the glass. What if they were +11 and Watkins had been healthy?
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>> Being stronger on the boards will make UConn's life a lot easier.

Sure, no one in their right mind would deny this. The issue is whether being a lot bigger (and slower) would also be desirable. And I think the answer is "not necessarily." The simple, undeniable fact is we became a dominant rebounding team by March without being super-big. This is an important insight to take away from their latest NC win.
 
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Sluconn Husky said:
Forgot to mention that in the closest game UConn played in the tourney (up 5 on USC heading into the 4th), USC was plus 11 on the glass. What if they were +11 and Watkins had been healthy?
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Playing the "what if" game, are you? Well, for what it is worth, according to Massey before the injury to JuJu occurred, UConn would have been a six point favorite.
 
Bone Dog said:
>> Being stronger on the boards will make UConn's life a lot easier.

Sure, no one in their right mind would deny this. The issue is whether being a lot bigger (and slower) would also be desirable. And I think the answer is "not necessarily." The simple, undeniable fact is we became a dominant rebounding team by March without being super-big. This is an important insight to take away from their latest NC win.
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Not sure about dominant, but much better, and mainly due to Sarah Strong who averaged 12.3 rebounds over the 9 post-season games.

El Alfy playing more would technically make the team slower but if she averaged 8+ boards a game Geno would take it.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
UConn outshot South Carolina in the 2022 title game 41%-37% but got outrebounded by 25 leading to a 15-pt loss.

UConn outshot South Carolina 52%-39% in February 2023 but got outrebounded by 12 leading to a 4-pt loss.

UConn got outshot by South Carolina only 46%-44% in November 2021 but got outrebounded by 17 leading to a 16-pt loss.
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That's all irrelevant to the point.
 
With the talent and basketball IQ that Sarah has shown through her freshman season, I wouldn't bet against her achieving any accomplishment.
 
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YKCornelius said:
If you have the opportunity to revisit your wager, perhaps you can propose that she will have at least one game of 5 three point shots made, 5 rebounds, 5 steals, 5 assists, and 5 block shots. You can call it "The Pentagon"!

That said, I would nonetheless also ask for steep odds! :cool:
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I would call it the (Pentagon)^2 [Pentagon Squared] or 5x5 (would "be easier said than done!"), then Sarah's efficiency could be 60/45/80 for her Sophomore season.

The opening over/under on triple double for Sarah should be 2.5.

Go Huskies!!!
 
Wilt was really hot one night and had 53/32/14/11/24. I'd call that dominant. :D
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Games shown where UConn badly outshot its opponent, got clobbered on the glass anyway.

So the point didn't go anywhere.
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Again, not the point. You're arguing something else. Just move on, you missed it.
 
If anyone got close to a triple double on a program built on balance it would be a feat. If you look at NCAA individual records there are relatively few UCONN players. On the other hand, if you look at NCAA team records…UCONN is all over the place. Many UCONN WNBA players weren’t THE player on their UCONN squad.
 
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