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KB's statement elsewhere that some teams have pretty much given up on trying to make the tourney in any year made wonder which of the P5 teams are deepest in that funk. In fact, are there any who have never even made the tourney?
Quick facts, there are 65 P5 teams and 33 made the Tourney last year, so theoretically you could get every team in the Tourney in two years. But most of the teams are rolled over from the year before, so only 48 of the 65 have even made the tourney during the five years of the 2010s.
All of the 65 teams have been to at least one Tourney, though TCU has not done it since being promoted to the B12. All of the P5 have one particular laggard from the rest of the teams, though all of the B12 teams have made it during the 2010s with TCU being the furthest back at 2010. The other P5 conferences all have 1 team that has not gone to the Tourney during the 2000s. Two of the 65 teams have never won a Tourney game. There are also two teams in Auburn and Minnesota that were once among the very top teams but have not been to the Tourney since 2009, not an eon but still a ways back for them.
Guessing the identity of the two by-far-the-worst teams is about 9,000,000,000,000,000,000 times easier than picking a 100% correct NCAA Tourney backet since they habitually sit at the bottom of their conference. One though is a team that achieved Tourneyness for 8 years in a row during the 1990s. So allowing each conference beside the B12 to send their sad sack to the December Badness Tourney the draw for the matchups in the Feeble Four are:
Wake Forest (ACC) vs. Northwestern (B10)
......................and
Alabama (SEC) vs. Washington State (PAC)
In the listless semifinal matches, Wake Forest overcomes Northwestern (1997) by dominating the boards on deadball rebounds, and Washington State outlasts Bama (1999) on kicked ball violations.
So in the final it is Wake Forest that wins (or loses) over Washington State by a 1988 to 1991 score, but the Cougars get their revenge by posting a perfect(ly bad) record of 0-1 in Tourney play, while the Deacons were unlucky enough to win one of their two games in 1991.
Note also that FF team Alabama has a strong 16-10 Tourney record because of winning play in the 1990s, and that Syracuse is the other P5 team without a Tourney win as they are 0-5, the last coming in 2013.
Quick facts, there are 65 P5 teams and 33 made the Tourney last year, so theoretically you could get every team in the Tourney in two years. But most of the teams are rolled over from the year before, so only 48 of the 65 have even made the tourney during the five years of the 2010s.
All of the 65 teams have been to at least one Tourney, though TCU has not done it since being promoted to the B12. All of the P5 have one particular laggard from the rest of the teams, though all of the B12 teams have made it during the 2010s with TCU being the furthest back at 2010. The other P5 conferences all have 1 team that has not gone to the Tourney during the 2000s. Two of the 65 teams have never won a Tourney game. There are also two teams in Auburn and Minnesota that were once among the very top teams but have not been to the Tourney since 2009, not an eon but still a ways back for them.
Guessing the identity of the two by-far-the-worst teams is about 9,000,000,000,000,000,000 times easier than picking a 100% correct NCAA Tourney backet since they habitually sit at the bottom of their conference. One though is a team that achieved Tourneyness for 8 years in a row during the 1990s. So allowing each conference beside the B12 to send their sad sack to the December Badness Tourney the draw for the matchups in the Feeble Four are:
Wake Forest (ACC) vs. Northwestern (B10)
......................and
Alabama (SEC) vs. Washington State (PAC)
In the listless semifinal matches, Wake Forest overcomes Northwestern (1997) by dominating the boards on deadball rebounds, and Washington State outlasts Bama (1999) on kicked ball violations.
So in the final it is Wake Forest that wins (or loses) over Washington State by a 1988 to 1991 score, but the Cougars get their revenge by posting a perfect(ly bad) record of 0-1 in Tourney play, while the Deacons were unlucky enough to win one of their two games in 1991.
Note also that FF team Alabama has a strong 16-10 Tourney record because of winning play in the 1990s, and that Syracuse is the other P5 team without a Tourney win as they are 0-5, the last coming in 2013.
