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Deepster said:
don't get the immediate kneejerk and bad grading for Samson. I really don't
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he fouled out in 16 mins against a midmajor, that's definitely not a good thing.
 
Deepster said:
He was a huge part of repeat national championships. Isn't that pretty good?
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but now he's our starting C and is expected to be an even bigger part of 3peat champions.

if samson can foul out in 16 mins against sacred heart is he gonna foul out in under 10 mins against creighton? better hope reed doesnt get into foul trouble this year.
 
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bendm said:
but now he's our starting C and is expected to be an even bigger part of 3peat champions.

if samson can foul out in 16 mins against sacred heart is he gonna foul out in under 10 mins against creighton? better hope reed doesnt get into foul trouble this year.
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Do you really think that's an equation? If so, then Hass isn't going to hit a 3 pointer all year. Right?
 
Deepster said:
Do you really think that's an equation? If so, then Hass isn't going to hit a 3 pointer all year. Right?
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here's your equation: samson on D+ kalkbrenner on O = doomed.

youre the only person that can spin samson fouling out in 16 mins against a midmajor as not a troubling sign.
 
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bendm said:
here's your equation: samson on D+ kalkbrenner on O = doomed.

youre the only person that can spin samson fouling out in 16 mins against a midmajor as not a troubling sign.
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The game won’t just be a contest between our 5’s and Kalk agreed. UConn’s formula for winning this year will be different than the last 2. I’m bullish.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Starting to think Stewart isn’t a good fit for this offense. He’s not really a catch and shoot or off ball guy and seems to work best with the ball in his hands. In this offense there’s not a lot of opportunity for him to do that.

Don’t think it’s an indictment on either or, just not a good fit. Hope he can figure it out eventually.
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I was hoping it was just not wanting to make a mistake and taking care of his minutes as a freshman but it's time for him to stop playing so "safe". AK will attack a closeout, Liam had a couple of plays in the lane the other night, we know Tristen/Cam/Castle would take guys off the dribble last year. Jaylin's gotta be comfortable with attacking off the bounce a few times a game to get his, there's plenty of room in the offense for it.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
I wouldn't speak for the rest of the board. I haven't seen any "troubling signs" on November 8. But some people look for trouble and find it. It's a choice, I guess.
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samson averaged over 7 fouls per 40 mins last year. there was hope that him gaining ~20lbs this offseason would help him defend without fouling so much, yet he fouled out in the first game of the season against a midmajor opponent in only 16 mins. but sure, nothing to see here folks, move along.
 
Deepster said:
Never thought a thread on Sacred Heart would hit page 8, but we must just want to talk hoops.

I don't get the immediate kneejerk and bad grading for Samson. I really don't. I don't expect either him or Reed to be a bona fide 30+ minutes a game guy. I think there's going to be ebbs and flows for both of them and I really like what Samson brings. And, I thought he extended his offense away from just alley oop slams in Game 1. We're also going to lean on Singare at points too. A rolled ankle, sore back for either center pushes him right into 10+ minutes a game, maybe at a big part of the season.

We have a deep team and two real good bigs. Isn't that enough to let Hurley do the rest?
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My question with Samson is playstyle, ot talent. And it's really the same question I have for Hass. Playing the bench energy athletic freak is a niche (but important role). It loses it's effectiveness in the grind of a game if that guy is playing 20+ minutes a game.

Can either of them adjust to a different role where more IQ and skill diversity is required every day? They're both being asked to make a huge leap in their processing of the game.
 
bendm said:
samson averaged over 7 fouls per 40 mins last year. there was hope that him gaining ~20lbs this offseason would help him defend without fouling so much, yet he fouled out in the first game of the season against a midmajor opponent in only 16 mins. but sure, nothing to see here folks, move along.
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I've been on this board long enough to know that it's the same collection of posters who find things to freak out about relentlessly. Like I said, it's a choice. But don't pretend you speak for the board.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
But don't pretend you speak for the board.
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yes boss. i must have amnesia b/c i dont remember saying "on behalf of the entire boneyard, samson fouling out in 16 mins against sacred heart is a troubling sign."
 
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bendm said:
youre the only person that can spin samson fouling out in 16 mins against a midmajor as not a troubling sign.
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One data point in a blowout is meaningless. Maybe the Johnson haters can do something more productive like fret about free throws.
 
Waquoit said:
One data point in a blowout is meaningless.
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it's not meaningless because it didnt occur in a vacuum. it wasnt the first time and it probably won't be the last but you are free to spin it any way you want as well. you dont speak for the board and neither do i. that goes without saying.
 
Deepster said:
And, I thought he extended his offense away from just alley oop slams in Game 1.
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In the URI exhibition and against SHU, he has shown a few lost post hooks over the left shoulder that looked MILES better than his back to the basket post moves last year. Definitely seems to have added more to his game there.
 
Yeah, let's not overreact to game 1. Not that I check other team boards, but seeing Arkansas had it's hands full with Libscomb and has 12 Turnovers and only 10 assists. Kansas had 14 turnovers, Alabama had more turnovers than UNC Asheville and still won by 56.

In other words, game 1s are full of nerves - for freshman it's a first ever college game, sophomores have done it once, this is why Alex was so composed but Liam tossed up an airball. This is also the first game with real college speed opponents and physicality for freshmen...takes a little getting used to vs practice.

UNH will be a little better as Hurley and co will take in what they saw vs Sacred Heart and tweak some things. Would not be surprised if Mahaney scores 11 pts.
 
bendm said:
it's not meaningless because it didnt occur in a vacuum. it wasnt the first time and it probably won't be the last but you are free to spin it any way you want as well. you dont speak for the board and neither do i. that goes without saying.
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Why don't you Johnson haters at least wait until he costs us a game?
 
Saw some but not all of SH game. Samson raised my eyebrows on more than one occasion, ++ stuff he never did last year.

Maybe a hypnotist for the fouling.....or he's going to foul, just let him play loose and aggressively. Warm Singare up in the bullpen. Get Reed in 25 minute shape...lots of other options. Bottom line, SJ can really help us, hope he doesn't foul out.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
I wouldn't speak for the rest of the board. I haven't seen any "troubling signs" on November 8. But some people look for trouble and find it. It's a choice, I guess.
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Are you blind man!! We are dooooomed
 
AllHusky said:
Saw some but not all of SH game. Samson raised my eyebrows on more than one occasion, ++ stuff he never did last year.

Maybe a hypnotist for the fouling.....or he's going to foul, just let him play loose and aggressively. Warm Singare up in the bullpen. Get Reed in 25 minute shape...lots of other options. Bottom line, SJ can really help us, hope he doesn't foul out.
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Wow so game 1 defines your view of Samson just b/c he fouled out? First game, man, speed has to get used to from practices and an exhibition. Nerves run high - they just got their banner, rings, crowd going bananas. They all have to let the game come to them like AK and Liam did. Give him a few more games, and besides, how many games did he foul out of last year, yet so many railed on his fouling.
 
Deepster said:
And, I thought he extended his offense away from just alley oop slams in Game 1.
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Waquoit said:
Why don't you Johnson haters at least wait until he costs us a game?
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Against SHU Johnson demonstrated some actual offensive moves. Prior to this his entire game was alley oops and the occasional putback.

Yes, it was a bit disappointing that he fouled out but there is still quite a bit of time left in the season and marginal improvement may be all that is needed.

It is far too early to panic.
 
JerseyAlum said:
Wow so game 1 defines your view of Samson just b/c he fouled out? First game, man, speed has to get used to from practices and an exhibition. Nerves run high - they just got their banner, rings, crowd going bananas. They all have to let the game come to them like AK and Liam did. Give him a few more games, and besides, how many games did he foul out of last year, yet so many railed on his fouling.
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I think you misunderstood my post there Jersey boy(exit 9 here). He did some very positive heretofore unseen things, awesome. Keep working on the foul thing, but if he fouls he fouls. A loose, aggressive Samson Johnson does a bunch for the team, a tight tentative SJ doesn't.

In summary-I am a big Samson Johnson fan and am thrilled at what appear to be some real additions to his game. Turn him loose!!
 
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Waquoit said:
Why don't you Johnson haters at least wait until he costs us a game?
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I didn’t realize saying it’s a “troubling sign” that Samson fouled out in 16 mins against a midmajor made me a hater. Scary to think What a real criticism would have made me.
 
bendm said:
samson averaged over 7 fouls per 40 mins last year. there was hope that him gaining ~20lbs this offseason would help him defend without fouling so much, yet he fouled out in the first game of the season against a midmajor opponent in only 16 mins. but sure, nothing to see here folks, move along.
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3 of those fouls were legitimately bs. Did you watch the game?
 
AntG168 said:
3 of those fouls were legitimately bs. Did you watch the game?
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Unfortunately He’s got a reputation at this point and won’t get the benefit of the doubt a la Zack edey
 
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bendm said:
I didn’t realize saying it’s a “troubling sign” that Samson fouled out in 16 mins against a midmajor made me a hater. Scary to think What a real criticism would have made me.
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So why don't you save your fire for real criticism?
 
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