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Her and Kelsey Plum would be a hell of a back court for a year.
 
I used the word diva-ish to describe Sabrina in an earlier post and received much pushback. This just confirms it for me. I am ok with her taking as long as she wants but not fair IMO to put new school ( Washington) in consideration this late in the game.

Not fair? How? To whom?
 
Assuming these three schools are still top of mind, perhaps she wants to make her mark at them?
- California has vaunted Frosh Center Kristine Anigwe coming back (20.8 ppg), as well as the next two leading scorers, so there's a base to build on.
- At Oregon State, Scott Rueck has built a good program and asst. coach Mandy Close has done good work with guards Jamie Weisner and Sydney Weise, who is coming back, although Weisner and center Ruth Hamblin graduate. Gabby Hanson, who played well when I've seen her, also comes back.
- Oregon, where her brother is planning on walking on, only has the 3rd leading scorer coming back, Maite Cazola, who looks to play the same position as Ionescu.

And, who knows, there may be other things in play, from ideas about other schools to areas of studies. Back to the "who knows what lurks in the minds and hearts of teenagers?" We've got a poster on our ND board who raves about her play and says she's a good kid, to boot. We'll see...

Was Bro given a "walk on" status to temp sis to choose them?? Sounds like a violation--kidding!!
You got that right --who knows whats in the hearts of men??---You know who!! Kid do the funniest things. With someone occupying "her position" are the not like Uconn where positions are the thing you play in the game--KLS--Center, Foward, Guard---Kia--Shooting guard, wing, point
 
She better hurry up and figure it out. She needs to be arriving there in a couple of weeks.


Not necessarily. I'm sure those schools would be OK with her arriving at the end of August.
 
Not fair? How? To whom?
Not fair to the coaches that are still in the running. If you are Cal for example and Sabrina has told you she has down selected to OSU, Cal, Oregon your pitch to Sabrina says you should chose Cal over OSU & Oregon for these reasons. You don't know that you are in competition with Washington (same conference) because Sabrina never told you and you don't get another chance to pitch CAL merits vs. Washington.
 
Not fair? How? To whom?
Not to pour oil on the fire--but--it could be unfair to herself in not doing the summer school thing (assuming the sign up process takes a bit of enrollment time) then interaction with teammates over the summer makes for some chemistry for the team if she arrives late summer. This of course assumes things of which I know nothing. If she can enroll in late may or late june it would not matter would it??
 
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I used the word diva-ish to describe Sabrina in an earlier post and received much pushback. This just confirms it for me. I am ok with her taking as long as she wants but not fair IMO to put new school ( Washington) in consideration this late in the game.
I probably gave you some pushback myself, and I will again - I just don't see this as 'I am all about me' and I certainly don't know her nor have every watched either highlight reel, game film, or interview film of her. This strikes me much more as 'I have no clue what is important to me in making this choice'. In other words it is not 'I am all about me' but 'I have no idea who I am'.
 
I probably gave you some pushback myself, and I will again - I just don't see this as 'I am all about me' and I certainly don't know her nor have every watched either highlight reel, game film, or interview film of her. This strikes me much more as 'I have no clue what is important to me in making this choice'. In other words it is not 'I am all about me' but 'I have no idea who I am'.
I can see that POV. Here is something I forgot to write in the other post. How did Washington get into the mix for Sabrina services as opposed to say Stanford which is closer to her home? If you truly do not know where you want to go and are open to pitches from other school that is one thing but if you selective choose and you reach out then it very much about you and I would tend to disagree with you.
 
I can see that POV. Here is something I forgot to write in the other post. How did Washington get into the mix for Sabrina services as opposed to say Stanford which is closer to her home? If you truly do not know where you want to go and are open to pitches from other school that is one thing but if you selective choose and you reach out then it very much about you and I would tend to disagree with you.
I have absolutely no idea about the following as it relates to her, but ... admissions to Stanford are too high for a large portion of the top 100 basketball recruits. I have wondered about whether this was a reason for the delay - there was a pretty highly ranked recruit a few years ago who kept delaying her choice through a couple of attempts to get accepted at Stanford, her dream school - she did not and ended up somewhere else. But given this continued delay beyond any admissions deadline (and Stanford never having been know to be on her lists) I have since dropped that thought.
 
Interesting. Oregon already has about 7 new freshman coming in next season.
 
Not to pour oil on the fire--but--it could be unfair to herself in not doing the summer school thing (assuming the sign up process takes a bit of enrollment time) then interaction with teammates over the summer makes for some chemistry for the team if she arrives late summer. This of course assumes things of which I know nothing. If she can enroll in late may or late june it would not matter would it??

I agree, with the amount of transfers and unhappiness going around WCBB, I see this as a mature decision for a young woman who is making probably the hardest choice in her young life thus far.
 
I have absolutely no idea about the following as it relates to her, but ... admissions to Stanford are too high for a large portion of the top 100 basketball recruits. I have wondered about whether this was a reason for the delay - there was a pretty highly ranked recruit a few years ago who kept delaying her choice through a couple of attempts to get accepted at Stanford, her dream school - she did not and ended up somewhere else. But given this continued delay beyond any admissions deadline (and Stanford never having been know to be on her lists) I have since dropped that thought.
Admissions to Stanford is a great hurdle and I should have said ( academics aside) why not Stanford? Perhaps USC or UCLA would have been better examples.
 
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Not necessarily. I'm sure those schools would be OK with her arriving at the end of August.
Not really, August is acceptable for enrollment but most WCB programs "require" enrollment during a summer session. This serves two purposes NCAA allows for real limited coaching from the staff and summer school allows the players to take course and a lighter academic load during BB season while still reaching graduation timeline requirements.
 
Interesting. Oregon already has about 7 new freshman coming in next season.

Yup. And when I followed the tweet posted earlier today, someone also announced the 2017 commitment of a point guard from Spain.

Will be "interesting" to see how long Ionescu goes before making a decision. In the meantime, have not heard anything on the Lindsey Corsaro front after reopening her recruitment after de-committing from Kentucky, as well as Mi-Cole Cayton or Kathleen Doyle who were looking elsewhere after the coaching switch in Nebraska. Might end up being a bit fast and furious coming into the summer school sessions....
 
I used the word diva-ish to describe Sabrina in an earlier post and received much pushback. This just confirms it for me. I am ok with her taking as long as she wants but not fair IMO to put new school ( Washington) in consideration this late in the game.
Give her a break, tell us about concrete evidence of her (or her fimily's) Diva-ish behavior. I am not saying she is not. She did not go beyond any deadlines and the commitment of her and the university goes both ways. As long as she is not breaking any rules, bargaining for more privileges, or hosting an ESPN conference to announce her choice of school, I would not call her a diva, being extremely undecisive maybe.
 
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Yup. And when I followed the tweet posted earlier today, someone also announced the 2017 commitment of a point guard from Spain.

Will be "interesting" to see how long Ionescu goes before making a decision. In the meantime, have not heard anything on the Lindsey Corsaro front after reopening her recruitment after de-committing from Kentucky, as well as Mi-Cole Cayton or Kathleen Doyle who were looking elsewhere after the coaching switch in Nebraska. Might end up being a bit fast and furious coming into the summer school sessions....

I believe Doyle is down to Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, and Vanderbilt. At least according to this article.

Also interesting, Natalie Romeo, is said to be considering Washington or staying at Nebraska. Romeo's former high school and Ionescu's current high school are a 25 minute drive apart and both played for Cal Stars and Kelly Sopak.
 
Hmmm - I am usually pretty tolerant of decision process and timing for HS kids, but this one just raises some flags for me. It is not about who she is choosing or taking her time, nor what type of person she is. But she just seems from outside to not have any idea of what she wants from her college choice. Distance, coaching, type of school, type of school community, style of play, players already on the team, academic standing. It just all seems to still be in play a month before summer school starts.
Her drawn out waffling asks questions about other issues. Will her final choice be her final decision? Will she ultimately have second thoughts, especially if the team doesn't meet her expectations? Will she then make a quick sophomore leap to another team? What does this say about her as a player? How decisive will she be when basketball starts blowing real grit in her eyes? Can she chose what kind of player she wants to be? Oregon clearly has a lot of new faces coming next year. Will she feel secure in that kind of logjam? Washington has a more mature team. Wouldn't she need that kind of direction? When her college years are over will she finally be mature enough to live that kind of vagabond life?
 
Give her a break, tell us about concrete evidence of her (or her fimily's) Diva-ish behavior. I am not saying she is not. She did not go beyond any deadlines and the commitment of her and the university goes both ways. As long as she is not breaking any rules, bargaining for more privileges, or hosting an ESPN conference to announce her choice of school, I would not call her a diva, being extremely undecisive maybe.

She did go beyond her own deadline for picking a school on 4 different occasions.
  • October 2015 she announced- she will decided on a school at the completion of official visits with the last visit being in time for the early signing period in November
  • November 2015 She announced via twitter and an interview with her coach that she will not be in a position to make a decision and needed more time
  • January 2016 she announced that Texas no longer in the running but OSU, Oregon, Cal &??? were still in consideration and that she would be announcing by the next signing period-April
  • April 2016 during McDonalds AA game interview she re-confirmend the schools she was looking at and said that she would make a decision by April
  • May 2016 still undecided OSU and Cal out and added Washington back in

If you Google her name with school selection you will find articles verifying all of the above.
 
Just an FYI - Romeo is definitely leaving Nebraska and is also looking at Washington and they only have one open roster spot.
 
First off, recruiting in general in any sport is not "fair". Coaches handle things in certain ways, and players/families handle things in certain ways; one side is not always completely forthcoming with the other side. And, since coaches can't publicly comment on a recruit (who has not signed an LOI), we never hear their side of any story; we only hear what said recruit wishes to share.

Ionescu is allowed plenty of time; I don't even think she has to sign in the Spring. She could wait to sign prior to enrolling (in the Fall).

After she visited Texas officially in the Fall, she eliminated them from consideration. Not until January did we hear from her that the reason was she felt she had not established the same type relationship with the Texas coaches which she had with her other finalists (Oregon, Cal, OSU), and she didn't believe there would be enough time to build that relationship.

But, now she's adding Washington to the mix? As far as we know, that is recent. I guess it didn't take her long to "build that relationship" with the Husky coaches. Her interest in Washington may have come based on their run to Final Four; perhaps that brought them into consideration.

Bottom line is that a lot of her reasoning (that she has shared with the media) leaves a lot to be desired.

I believe her club coach (Kelly Sopack) is greatly involved in her recruitment. My gut tells me to keep an eye on his future employment status . . .
 
Didnt Shoni Shimmel announce her choice, of Louisville, at her HS graduation?
 
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It seems to me that Ms Ionescu's gravest sin has been to be an irritant to impatient message board posters.:mad:

Slap her on the wrist and be done with it.;)
Amen to that! I guess that since this is a message board everyone is entitled to their opinion within the rules of the board, but unless any of the posters on here have had conversations with Sabrina, her family, her current coach, or the coaching staffs of the teams she's eliminated, I can't see how anyone can have a negative opinion of her, in any way shape or form.

Kid's making the biggest decision of her young life so far, and she's taking her sweet time, and yes, possibly even changing her mind a time or 2. I just don't get the rush to judgement, or why it's important to label her in any way...
 
Just an FYI - Romeo is definitely leaving Nebraska and is also looking at Washington and they only have one open roster spot.

Lot of NoCal guards looking for schools with Romeo, Ionescu and Mi'Cole Cayton (Stockton, right?). The recent ESPNw article on her didn't mention Cal or Oregon State as a school that was interested, but that was before Ionescu trimmed her list to Oregon and Washington. This quote from that article was interesting:
"[Yori] has the same style as [St. Mary's coach Tom Gonsalves]. Tom always said, 'Don't walk into my gym if you are not ready to compete,' and [Yori] is the same way."
Of the schools that have reached out to her since, I noticed Rutgers was on that list. That might be taking the Yori model and juicing it....

As for Kathleen Doyle and Vandy from another post, she'll have to wait and see (maybe) what comes of that unsettled situation in regards to whom takes over the coaching reins. See how it compares to the other schools (Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska still in mix I think, etc.), get to know the coaches...make as good a decision as you can.
 
It's so much wiser to wait and take your time to make a decision. Have you seen the amount of transfers recently and the flak those players have received? Maybe if some went through a more thoughtful process like Ionescu they wouldn't need to transfer and have to sit a year though I don't blame them as situations change and the ideal of a school may be different than the reality.

Seems like a lose-lose situation, either you make a quick decision you may regret later or take your time and seem like you're a diva. Understand for a 17-18 yr old kid to make a decision on the next four years of their life isn't easy.
 
Her drawn out waffling asks questions about other issues. Will her final choice be her final decision? Will she ultimately have second thoughts, especially if the team doesn't meet her expectations? Will she then make a quick sophomore leap to another team? What does this say about her as a player? How decisive will she be when basketball starts blowing real grit in her eyes? Can she chose what kind of player she wants to be? Oregon clearly has a lot of new faces coming next year. Will she feel secure in that kind of logjam? Washington has a more mature team. Wouldn't she need that kind of direction? When her college years are over will she finally be mature enough to live that kind of vagabond life?
Guess if you really thought about it, you coulda come up with a few more questions. Eh?
 
smells like...she was set to go to Oregon (which some of us suspect was the case all along, especially once her brother decided) and then UW got in the mix either because of (1) the Final Four run (and let's face it, a kid from the East Bay may prefer Seattle to Corvallis), (2) a chance to play with Natalie Romeo -- something tells me a roster slot would open up, or (3) both.
 
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