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Ruh-Rho? David Boren could have a fight on his hands in B12 expansion — from his own board (Dodd)

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Drew said:
If this guy successfully holds this up something like the following scenario will play out:

UT to the ACC and OU/KU to the B1G.

New XII:

ISU
KSU
OSU
TTU
Baylor
WVU
TCU
UConn
Cincinnati
Memphis
BYU (football only)
Boise St (football only)

essentially an improved version of the American. Probably still has a shot at getting into the playoff and covers a decent amount of TV markets (no chance for a network though). 12 for football and 10 for basketball.
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We can't keep playing the same game and expect a different result. The Geezer's argument is completely accurate for the near term, while also being a stupid long term strategy. If UConn wants a seat at the adult table, it needs to make more money now.
 
Big 12 needs to hurry up and get this done. They need to get this part of the process out of the way. This is making them look extremely unstable. Nothing will flip that perception like adding UConn, getting a bunch of great publicity in CT and the rest of the northeast, then beating the ACC to the creation of a conference network.
 
Maybe the B12 is toast??

Andrew Carter ‏@_andrewcarter 2h2 hours ago
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Andrew Carter ‏@_andrewcarter 21m21 minutes ago
Just heard applause in the ACC TV meeting. Probably means that league has signed that billion-dollar rights deal. Unconfirmed, at this time.

Just kidding.
 
On a plus note, if the B12 self-implodes, maybe the American can scoop up their orphans and become even better. Some part of me would find it hilarious to become bigger/better in football than the ACC.
 
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Irish Loop said:
On a plus note, if the B12 self-implodes, maybe the American can scoop up their orphans and become even better. Some part of me would find it hilarious to become bigger/better in football than the ACC.
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If they explode, the AAC can and should pick up Baylor, TCU, Kansas and K State. This is me assuming Texas, OU, Texas Tech and OSU go to another conference like the Pac-12. I can see Kansas going to the Big 10 and which would work out for Iowa State seeing as they'll kind of be in the same position UConn in as they're not terrible, but they're not good enough to turn heads.
 
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According to the guys on LandThieves, these Regents are nominated by the Presidents and confirmed by the Governor. They evidently wield little power and are usually big donors who want to feel that their views are being heard. Consensus is also that Boren does not need Regent approval for the Big XII to expand. It isn't a budgetary item or anything requiring their approval.
 
HuskyHawk said:
According to the guys on LandThieves, these Regents are nominated by the Presidents and confirmed by the Governor. They evidently wield little power and are usually big donors who want to feel that their views are being heard. Consensus is also that Boren does not need Regent approval for the Big XII to expand. It isn't a budgetary item or anything requiring their approval.
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The University of Oklahoma - Board of Regents

Interesting that they are all appointed by the Governor. I though most BOR had at least a few elected members. That said, I'm only familiar with a couple of them so my knowledge base is pretty small.
 
Maybe Boren just needs a bad cop so that Texas doesn't walk all over them. Now Boren can walk away from a bad deal.
 
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It is scary how much B12 is like the old Big East. With Texas calling the shots, does it surprise anyone that nothing gets done? OU is in a tough spot. Easiest for them is probably just pack up and leave. Rest of the B12 outside Texas and maybe Kansas should be sweating as much as the old BE football schools. Standing at 10 is pretty much suicide. They will not make it past their GOR expiration date if they keep this up.
 
HuskyHawk said:
According to the guys on LandThieves, these Regents are nominated by the Presidents and confirmed by the Governor. They evidently wield little power and are usually big donors who want to feel that their views are being heard. Consensus is also that Boren does not need Regent approval for the Big XII to expand. It isn't a budgetary item or anything requiring their approval.
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Good god HH, this is an internet CR board. We don't need any posts that speak facts or truths.
 
Point6 said:
That is the real motivation of the P5. Lock out competitors, current and future.
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May not be a viable future. Can't just tell everyone we're the only game in town. There is always pro ball.
 
John Hoover basically summarizes what The Boneyard's been posting for the last 24 hours.

Which brings us to this evening’s developments, an amendment of sorts from Weitzenhoffer in the form of a statement from the university, issued simultaneously with a statement from Boren.

“I first want to make it clear that I have complete confidence in the leadership of the University of Oklahoma,” Weitzenhoffer said. “President Boren has proven to be a visionary and effective leader of the university. I am confident that our President will lead the university in the right direction on matters related to the Big 12 Conference. He has and continues to have my full support.”

Boren’s statement was a little less apologetic.

“I remain firmly committed to my belief that we should all work together to make the Big 12 Conference even stronger through holistic reform that allows for expansion and the creation of a Big 12 network.”

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In essence, “This is what I believe, and I’m sticking to it.”

For those scoring at home, that’s Boren 1, Weitzenhoffer nil.

Really, for what it’s worth, Weitzenhoffer lost all credibility on talking about what’s best for OU and the Big 12 when, at the end of Dodd’s piece, he described himself as an old-school fan who longs for the days of traditional bowl tie-ins and human polls.
 
Weitzenhoffer wants to feel like he has some control, but I read somewhere, I forget where, the board has no control over conference expansion because it in no way affects the day to day activities of the university.

It looks to me, that once again, the entire expansion of the BigXII is solely in the lap of the Longhorns and their awful network. If they refuse to give up the network then that pretty much signs the death certificate to the BigXII. If they play ball, they I believe the UConn is choice number one because that gives the BigXII schools a platform to show off in NYC in B1G/ACC country.
 
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It's called leverage and posturing. Texas doesn't care as much about the future of the longhorn network as much as they do getting paid out in full. They are more than willing to give up the network at the right price.
 
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