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8 blocks combined for Brink and Iriafen, definitely most of them were on Crooks. They hardly doubled her. Just let one defender handle her. A couple times she got really good low post position but they were mostly able to hold their ground against her.
This suggests a real limit to her game, if she can be stopped without a double team. Of course, Brink and Iriafen are great defenders. But they’re not unique, and this is exactly what Crooks would have to deal with at the next level in every game. I wonder if she’ll develop past this.
 
This suggests a real limit to her game, if she can be stopped without a double team. Of course, Brink and Iriafen are great defenders. But they’re not unique, and this is exactly what Crooks would have to deal with at the next level in every game. I wonder if she’ll develop past this.
She’s a freshman going up against 2 of the best posts in the country, she’ll develop her game and improve. I love Crooks but don’t think she projects to be a good WNBA prospect even if she’s a dominant collegiate player. Making it in the WNBA has as much to do with length and athleticism as it does skill. Who knows though, time will tell and she had a brilliant freshman season.
 
She’s a freshman going up against 2 of the best posts in the country, she’ll develop her game and improve. I love Crooks but don’t think she projects to be a good WNBA prospect even if she’s a dominant collegiate player. Making it in the WNBA has as much to do with length and athleticism as it does skill. Who knows though, time will tell and she had a brilliant freshman season.
I like her too. I hope she grows her game. I’d really like to see her succeed.
 
Yep. Iowa State/Stanford is the best game so far of the tournament.
My heart is only now recovering after an hour drive home post-game. That was an epic battle - 18 lead changes along with 12 ties. Back to back to back "go ahead" shots by both teams in the final minutes of both regular and over time. Foul outs by both teams' best players.

Can Emily Ryan take a COVID year? She was aces all night long and had one of those performances where as much as you want to begrudge your opponent, you can only tip your hat. She nearly carried ISU on her tiny shoulders all by herself. Damn impressive. I became a fan, even as I was rooting for her to miss every shot...
 
I don’t remember Iriafen being this awesome last year. Did she just turn the corner this year, or has it been brewing for awhile?
This is new. I'm obviously biased by homer rose-colored glasses, but I think she's unquestionably the post improved player in the country this season. Her shooting, scoring, and rebounding stats are actually better thank Brink's!
 
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As reported by bballnut90 above, Crooks has a great attitude. There was another play when she lost the ball out of bounds and fell face down trying to retrieve it. She was laughing when she got up. Also, she was all hugs and smiles in the handshake line congratulating the Stanford players. How often do you see that from a player on the losing team?
 
I like her too. I hope she grows her game. I’d really like to see her succeed.
I watched Crooks in high school and wasn’t sure she would make it at D1. lol. How wrong I was. I’m thrilled with her success and will follow ISU for her career. But she is only 6’2” or so. Brink towered over her. Brink has long arms and Audie does not. Not surprised Brink took away her go to shot. I expect she will develop ways to score against taller, shot blocking opponents at the low post. Only a freshman, after all.
 
Note Brink and Iriafen had 8 fouls, most if not all from guarding Crooks
 
The thing I like about Stanford bigs and Crooks is that they get the ball and go to work. Liz Kitley is great at this as well. Maybe folks high in bball iq will know a bit better but I see too often bigs have great position and appear to have one on one coverage and they'll kick it back out. They seemingly want even deeper position or a better angle for an easy bucket. No shade but I see great bigs like Lee and Cardoso constantly kick the ball back out. I think it slows down the offense and I know both are skilled enough to finish over both shoulders or even fade away at a close distance.

In any event I remember Kiki starting off the year last year great as well. This year I feel like her jump shot has been great. She's always been explosive but her ability to hit from 15 and like from any area (baseline, either wing) is impressive. Kinda happy for Stanford as they've had really tough draws back to back years in the 2nd round.
 
Iriafen is just phenomenal. I have nothing against Brink, but Brink being her teammate means Iriafen doesn’t always get the attention she deserves. She is all-American caliber and probably most improved player in the country.

I can imagine some would criticize Crooks for laughing during a game where she was going 3-21 on layups, but I think that kind of attitude could actually serve her well. Another confident freshman who is unafraid of the moment. I’m looking forward to see how she can develop her game.
 
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My heart is only now recovering after an hour drive home post-game. That was an epic battle - 18 lead changes along with 12 ties. Back to back to back "go ahead" shots by both teams in the final minutes of both regular and over time. Foul outs by both teams' best players.

Can Emily Ryan take a COVID year? She was aces all night long and had one of those performances where as much as you want to begrudge your opponent, you can only tip your hat. She nearly carried ISU on her tiny shoulders all by herself. Damn impressive. I became a fan, even as I was rooting for her to miss every shot...
Emily Ryan has announced she’s taking a Covid year.
 
Emily Ryan has announced she’s taking a Covid year.
I remember watching Iowa State her freshman year. She, Donarski (now at UNC), and Fuerbach (now at Iowa) all played huge roles as freshman. They were led by their veteran Ashley Joens. Really cool to now see Emily Ryan in that veteran role, on a team so reliant on freshman. I’m really intrigued to see how this freshman class plays out. I’m hopeful they stick together unlike Ryan’s class that had a lot of transfers out.
 
That was the best game I've seen all year in WCBB. And 2 teams that prove that a physical game can have sportsmanship unlike some other teams which shall remain nameless (LOL)
I loved that Kiki went out of her way to mention this in the presser, and to give ISU all the credit they deserved for playing a really physical but really sportsmanlike game:
Q. Kiki, how physical was it in there?
KIKI IRIAFEN: Very, very physical. They were a great -- they are a great team and their post players are great. It's physical, but they have great sportsmanship, which I love. So we were able to battle against each other, and at the end of the day pick each other up. It was very competitive and nothing was easy. That's what makes it fun, you know. Kudos to them.
 
Well now. Maybe I should have stayed up for the Stanford/ISU game. 36 pts in overtime? That must have been a barn burner!
Tired Tom And Jerry GIF


It was. Doing my best to feel functional this morning, but worth it!:D
 
My heart is only now recovering after an hour drive home post-game. That was an epic battle - 18 lead changes along with 12 ties. Back to back to back "go ahead" shots by both teams in the final minutes of both regular and over time. Foul outs by both teams' best players.

Can Emily Ryan take a COVID year? She was aces all night long and had one of those performances where as much as you want to begrudge your opponent, you can only tip your hat. She nearly carried ISU on her tiny shoulders all by herself. Damn impressive. I became a fan, even as I was rooting for her to miss every shot...
I don't even know how I would even be behind the wheel after a game like that if I were in your shoes.
 
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Poor taste or fair game?



Context (maybe unintended) is that Georgia Amoore and Liz Kitley host a podcast by that name.

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I don't even know how I would even be behind the wheel after a game like that if I were in your shoes.
And I had a car-full of friends who were entrusting me with their lives to get all of us home! Fortunately we basically coasted back to SF on good vibes and "KIKI FOR PRESIDENT" chants.
 
Not a homer. Kiki is maybe the best power forward in the game today.

I remember her playing a little bit last season, but watching her in the game vs Duke really opened my eyes that she is an absolute monster. Shes gonna be a high high WNBA pick next season.

 
As reported by bballnut90 above, Crooks has a great attitude. There was another play when she lost the ball out of bounds and fell face down trying to retrieve it. She was laughing when she got up. Also, she was all hugs and smiles in the handshake line congratulating the Stanford players. How often do you see that from a player on the losing team?

 
Can someone explain why Tara was so upset after Crooks fouled out that she ran onto the court to yell at (apparently) one of her own players?
 
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Can someone explain why Tara was so upset after Crooks fouled out that she ran onto the court to yell at (apparently) one of her own players?
I can’t be certain, but I think that she thought the refs didn’t call Crooks for the foul. She immediately calmed down when she saw that Crooks was called for the foul.
 
Can someone explain why Tara was so upset after Crooks fouled out that she ran onto the court to yell at (apparently) one of her own players?
I personally thought she was telling the player guarding Emily Ryan -- think it was Agara? -- not to help off of her on defense. Ryan had just been left open for three because Agara had stayed in the post to help deny the entry pass to Crooks.
 
Even in a great game, we get a reminder the sport desperately needs officiating to catch up to the level of play. A coach running 15 feet onto the court should be an easy T decision.
 
Crooks vs Brinks and Iriafen reminded me of watching the South Carolina men, who had a 6'7, 280 transfer 5th year post. He never learned to compensate for his ground-bound game because he spent four seasons in a small conference where he could overpower people, so you'd often see him turn and shoot over his shoulder into the wrists and elbows of teams with elite defensive posts.

Crooks definitely has not yet learned to deal with elite defenders with length, but she's only a freshman. From everything I've heard and seen of her attitude, I would expect she will figure out some tricks over the next few years. Also, she was facing SR and JR high lottery picks. She might go a full season or more before facing two players with that combination of size, ability, and experience.
 
Poor taste or fair game?



Context (maybe unintended) is that Georgia Amoore and Liz Kitley host a podcast by that name.

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I think it would be funny and fair game, but the fact that one of the “queens of Cassell” suffered a career ending injury does make it a little bit of a bummer. Maybe I’m just too sensitive.

The Kitley sobbing shots immediately after the game made me sad. Really feel for that young lady.
 
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