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Message: [QUOTE="bendm, post: 3786122, member: 9151"] appreciate you not just dismissing my argument. i agree with the gist of what you're saying but there's a couple key distinctions i wanna clarify: 1) the fact that[I] justise[/I] was undersized and had to play against bigger/stronger PFs means he had to make up for those disadvantages with his superior athleticism. it sounds like you're saying winslow being shorter than AJ makes his athleticism less impressive, but i think it's the opposite given that winslow had to play up a position. 2) i 100% agree that AJ not being "ready" has nothing to do with his athleticism, i guess i failed to articulate that notion. but if AJ's allegedly in the top percentile of bball athletes then he should have been able to rely on his athleticism [I]alone[/I] in order to make a noticeable impact. i brought up tyrus thomas because he had the bare minimum of requisite bball skill (as opposed to kwintin) but still played himself into the lotto as a frosh. 3) pointing out "the fact that winslow was playing with multiple pros" was meant to contrast their circumstances even further. while winslow was obviously the better all around player, imo his single best attribute as a frosh was still his athleticism, per my first point. similarly, AJs best attribute is undoubtedly his athleticism. yet while winslow was a starter on a champ team, AJ could barely muster 8 mpg on a borderline tourney team. per my second point, if AJ's as freaky as we thought it's inexplicable that he could barley crack the rotation competing against martin and polley. for as you said, it's not like he was competing with quinn cook, grayson allen, semi ojelye etc. because being benched behind them would be understandable. i hope AJ turns out to be the freak we thought we were getting as much as anyone but i need to see something, anything, before i agree that his athleticism is hard to compare to any nba players. [/QUOTE]

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