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Message: [QUOTE="MD#12Fan, post: 3831841, member: 8636"] Records don't matter unless the player is outstanding. Easy to skip over names on the lists. Don't forget you youngsters, there was a long history in which freshmen were not eligible. Kareem had to play on the freshman team. Lore has it that his freshman team at UCLA kicked the varsity's butt routinely. Here's that name again- Pete Maravich still top men's scorer of all time. He did it in 83 games. Avg 44.2 ppg. The Big O still pretty high on the list, 88 games. Larry Bird 94 games, Elvin Hayes 93 games. Throw out the 5 or 6 smaller school guys and there you have 4 of the top 10 scorers of all time, only playing 3 years. [/QUOTE]