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businesslawyer said:
I forgot to make this point until now. I've said all year that Evers throws to his primary target every single time. If anyone doubts that, he threw a short down and out yesterday where his wideout got knocked down or slipped right at the line of scrimmage. Evers never noticed. Dropped back and threw the pass he always knew he would throw, even though the wideout was just getting up off the ground yards away. Can that be corrected? Absolutely. This season? Incredibly unlikely.
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I disagree regarding whether that issue can be corrected. Evers has played qb for a while and going through progressions I am sure has been emphasized. Some qbs just can’t do it.

I think Evers is what he is at this point.
 
Jetskies said:
Nick Evers ought to settle in nicely at a Jacksonville State or Kennesaw State.
For next year, pay a proven upperclassman who won games in the P4, and give Cole Welliver a shot.
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we arent going to get a successful p4 cast off
 
Sometimes I feel like a jerk being critical of college athletes but NIL has changed that. Evers makes 6 figures in NIL and is on a full-ride at a top 20 public university. He is not a quality QB and should not be playing. He will not improve. If he had potential to improve Oklahoma & Wisconsin would not have let him go.
 
huskysupporter said:
I disagree regarding whether that issue can be corrected. Evers has played qb for a while and going through progressions I am sure has been emphasized. Some qbs just can’t do it.

I think Evers is what he is at this point.
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That's why my thoughts are with Jetskies in the post above yours. Can Evers improve? I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say "yes" overall, including going through his progressions. But the question(s) that have to be asked are how much improvement can he make and how much time and at what opportunity cost for this season? I don't want to sacrifice wins for him to improve expecting some payoff next year (wins) that are not a guaranteed or sure thing.

I am hoping UConn can get an experienced P4 starter that has some wins under his belt-a QB ranked in the middle tier. We know the transfer portal QBs in the upper tier won't choose UConn unless the NIL and payment from the school is really good and we know other P4 schools have more money to offer.
 
gopher2 said:
Mora said last week that he knew what the problem with the OLine was, but didn't want to advantage the opposition by talking about it publicly. Well the problem wasn't fixed this week which I take to mean either 1) it's a problem that will take more than 1 week to fix, 2) the real problem is actually the QB play allowing defenses to prioritize the run in their schemes (but he didn't want to call out Evers) or 3) it is a problem that can't really be fixed (loss of Muraswki, being physically overmatched in places on the Oline etc.) Watching from the stands it seems our opponents are getting a lot of penetration all across the LOS.
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4d chess, he felt like he could beat Rice without revealing the correction to future opponents like Syracuse.. just wait.
 
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It could very well be that Evers was promised he would start every game this year so long as he was healthy, and that he wouldn't be pulled unless a game was already won or lost.
 
uconnbill said:
Who cares. You can only play your schedule and not sure what this means at all.

UConn is 5-3 and last year had 3 wins all year long. I'll take this year anytime considering what has happened since the Fiesta Bowl.

I will add that Rice fired their coach after the game
www.espn.com

Rice fires football coach Mike Bloomgren after 24-52 record

Rice, off to a 2-6 start after back-to-back bowl berths, has fired head coach Mike Bloomgren, who went 24-52 in his seven seasons with the Owls.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Well, I‘m not so sure what looking at our schedule and seeing that we lost to 3 decent teams, Wake, Duke and Maryland, and the other W’s were against all teams with losing records.

Make no mistake, I’ll take it As welll

BUT we still need a good win Against power 4.

But I am regretful to see the Rice coach fired.

I thought they came out and played a good first half and played very well for a team with Frosh QB at the helm. Too bad!
 
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Brochacho said:
If he had potential to improve Oklahoma & Wisconsin would not have let him go.
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In fairness to other QBs in this situation, i don't think this is necessarily true. Sometimes there are just too many prospects in the QB rooms at top football schools, who purposely over-recruit for "insurance" purposes, and a legit prospect has to find a new home at a smaller school to get his shot.

This is what we hoped Nick would be, and it looks like coach Mora still holds on to it. Maybe it's true belief in the kid, maybe its just the money they owe him anyway, but it looks like JM's gonna ride with him for better or worse in 2024.

Best of luck to our Defense.
 
Patman said:
we arent going to get a successful p4 cast off
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we won't get a top tier QB, agreed. But the right number of zero's should pique the interest of a moderately successful QB of a P4 school who's only got a couple of years left and knows he has no shot at the NFL (backup/practice squad at best), but he can throw effectively against P4 defenses.

We may not be able to get another Skyler Bell if we show him a gallery of JF's and Nick E's.
 
gsmooth said:
That's why my thoughts are with Jetskies in the post above yours. Can Evers improve? I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say "yes" overall, including going through his progressions. But the question(s) that have to be asked are how much improvement can he make and how much time and at what opportunity cost for this season? I don't want to sacrifice wins for him to improve expecting some payoff next year (wins) that are not a guaranteed or sure thing.

I am hoping UConn can get an experienced P4 starter that has some wins under his belt-a QB ranked in the middle tier. We know the transfer portal QBs in the upper tier won't choose UConn unless the NIL and payment from the school is really good and we know other P4 schools have more money to offer.
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agree with this.

also to add - as we know, UConn is not a typical low-level FBS school. Our brand is a strange anomaly - horrible football history, but elite bball and very very solid olympic sports, and overall a solid university brand that already puts us right in line with the big 10 and ACC schools. Our profile overall is worthy of sharing the big time football stage, even if we never get amazing at the sport.

Which is why I think it's worth it for UConn to find the money to pay the kids we need (proven P4 Upperclassmen), to get to the conference we ought to be in. Jax State or Southern Miss would never agree to spend the kind of NIL money we need to, because the ROI isn't there. You're still Southern Miss at the end of it all.

We are a big fish in a bathtub. C'mon football team, free us!
 
Jetskies said:
we won't get a top tier QB, agreed. But the right number of zero's should pique the interest of a moderately successful QB of a P4 school who's only got a couple of years left and knows he has no shot at the NFL (backup/practice squad at best), but he can throw effectively against P4 defenses.

We may not be able to get another Skyler Bell if we show him a gallery of JF's and Nick E's.
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no, why would they they leave a situation like that? I think you over estimate UConn's budget. edit: You might, and I stress might, get a low G5 QB who lights the world up
 
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Patman said:
no, why would they they leave a situation like that? I think you over estimate UConn's budget. edit: You might, and I stress might, get a low G5 QB who lights the world up
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there are many reasons a player would do it. Recent Injury, insecurity with a new recruit threatening their position and the writing being on the wall for them as the incumbent starter , and finally.... $$$$$$$$$

- Reasons that the public like us would never know - that's between the player and Jim Mora when they talk.

NIL is going to change the game here, there is zero loyalty now, and even less is on the horizon. I don't think people appreciate this enough.



2nd - I'm not estimating anything.

regardless of what the budget is, i'm speaking as to what I think would move the needle on QB recruitment, as an indep program who doesn't have the prestige to attract the QB we need, without ponying up some serious (maybe even irresponsible) cash.

whether UConn will ACTUALLY find the way to pony up the necessary zero's is another matter altogether.
 
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Jetskies said:
we won't get a top tier QB, agreed. But the right number of zero's should pique the interest of a moderately successful QB of a P4 school who's only got a couple of years left and knows he has no shot at the NFL (backup/practice squad at best), but he can throw effectively against P4 defenses.

We may not be able to get another Skyler Bell if we show him a gallery of JF's and Nick E's.
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Bell came specifically to play with Evers.
 
gopher2 said:
It could very well be that Evers was promised he would start every game this year so long as he was healthy, and that he wouldn't be pulled unless a game was already won or lost.
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That would be an insane promise to player that had yet to throw a single pass in a college game.

What UConn needs is one of those MAC QBs who kill the slant game.
 
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are NIL deals a year to year basis for the younger players? For example, is Evers guaranteed the same amount of NIL next year that we gave him this year?
 
Urcea said:
what's crazy about this is they have almost no chemistry to speak of
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Scout team players can be a little delusional; an observation that may or may not be based in personal experience...
 
businesslawyer said:
I forgot to make this point until now. I've said all year that Evers throws to his primary target every single time. If anyone doubts that, he threw a short down and out yesterday where his wideout got knocked down or slipped right at the line of scrimmage. Evers never noticed. Dropped back and threw the pass he always knew he would throw, even though the wideout was just getting up off the ground yards away. Can that be corrected? Absolutely. This season? Incredibly unlikely.
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I've been hopeful that he can come around, the talent is there. I'm also concerned by him being surprised by the snap on a couple of occasions. He also locks on the primary receiver on throws to the flat, regardless of the coverage, which can turn into a pick 6. With the exception of late in the Wake game, he still doesn't seem too comfortable back there.

In the words of the late Keith Jackson, "He's more nervous than a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs."
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
I'm pretty confident that most here know what my stance has been on the Evers/Fagnano debate (although few grasp my reasoning).

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We need to keep improving our HS recruiting and reach the point where transfers are complimentary players, not a means of filling a roster. Continuity plays a kn enormous role in football success. Having a roster where the bulk of the players and the lion's share of the starters all have a few years in the system gives the program a huge advantage.
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Absolutely. Was just about to post something similar. The biggest recruits we have are on this team.
 
businesslawyer said:
I forgot to make this point until now. I've said all year that Evers throws to his primary target every single time. If anyone doubts that, he threw a short down and out yesterday where his wideout got knocked down or slipped right at the line of scrimmage. Evers never noticed. Dropped back and threw the pass he always knew he would throw, even though the wideout was just getting up off the ground yards away. Can that be corrected? Absolutely. This season? Incredibly unlikely.
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Yup!
 
Patman said:
I admit I haven't watched any of the last few games. Since the start of the season I've flipped back and forth. I like Evers if he has a running threat but if he's injured he just doesn't. He needs to train and learn in practice. Fagnano isn't going to be a godsend but we need to give our running game at least a chance and not be such small dimesnions.

Georgia State is going to be a tough game. They already beat Vandy this year so they're not scared of anybody
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How are we favored? Vandy for real.
 
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