OT: Returning college athletes test positive

[hoopsfan22]

You are absolutely correct. They can't. Geno and staff can only do what they are told by the AD (who is told by the administration) what they can do. This situation is fluid. It changes from week to week. They may be allowed to do things next week that they can't do THIS week.

It's really not that fluid. Connecticut is following the re-opening plan laid out nearly two months ago. Phase 2 begins next Wednesday, and includes movie theaters, amusement parks, gyms, personal services, and indoor dining. Sadly women's college basketball programs didn't make the cut for phase 2 which will run through mid-July. The fact that many schools will not have summer workouts is why I think the NCAA should lift the fall practice restrictions to allow schools a bit of a head start on the season.

 

[Carnac]

It's really not that fluid. Connecticut is following the re-opening plan laid out nearly two months ago. Phase 2 begins next Wednesday, and includes movie theaters, amusement parks, gyms, personal services, and indoor dining. Sadly women's college basketball programs didn't make the cut for phase 2 which will run through mid-July. The fact that many schools will not have summer workouts is why I think the NCAA should lift the fall practice restrictions to allow schools a bit of a head start on the season.

Admittedly, I'm looking at what other states, conferences and schools are doing, and assuming that UConn can follow suit. They can't! Things here in California are opening up. We can dine in restaurants now, and the Indian casinos here and in Las Vegas are w-i-d-e open and raking in the cash. I must depend on you folks that live in Connecticut to keep the rest of us apprised on what your governor has mandated. I remember a comment a while back. It just happens to be yours from May 29:

CCSU, SCSU, WCSU, and ECSU will be open for the fall semester on August 26. QU and UNH have already announced they will be open for the fall semester as well. Even though it hasn't been officially announced, you can bet UConn won't decide to be the only school in the state that's not going to reopen for the fall semester. If UConn has decided that the campus is unsafe for students to attend summer classes, no basketball or football players should step foot on campus either. If it's unsafe it's unsafe.

I realize this simply gives colleges the OK to resume voluntary workouts, and that schools decide when they choose to have their athletes return to campus. Some had their athletes return last week.

 

[Zinethar]

I wonder if the players could meet somewhere for voluntary workouts off campus. It seems unfair that many schools are already running workouts and others still can not.

 

[hoopsfan22]

I wonder if the players could meet somewhere for voluntary workouts off campus. It seems unfair that many schools are already running workouts and others still can not.

Yep. It's why I said for the schools that can't workout, they should get to start their seasons a month early, while those that are open for business this month can remain on their normal schedule. Think of the advantage other schools have with their freshman on campus getting integrated with the team and learning to play with each other while some of our players can't even enter the country. I hope the NCAA tries to make things as fair as possible.

 

[Zanzman]

I wonder if the players could meet somewhere for voluntary workouts off campus. It seems unfair that many schools are already running workouts and others still can not.

But they have to live and eat somewhere who is going to pay

 

[hoopsfan22]

But they have to live and eat somewhere who is going to pay

Their coach owns his own restaurant. That takes care of the food part. And Geno has former players staying at his house all the time, they'll just have to put a few more cots in there.

 

[Charliebball]

Their coach owns his own restaurant. That takes care of the food part. And Geno has former players staying at his house all the time, they'll just have to put a few more cots in there.

I believe it's closed..........

 

[hoopsfan22]

I believe it's closed..........

Cafe Aura could have opened weeks ago like other restaurants as long as they served people outside. Next week restaurants can reopen indoor dining areas.

 

[Zanzman]

Their coach owns his own restaurant. That takes care of the food part. And Geno has former players staying at his house all the time, they'll just have to put a few more cots in there.

I’d love that I liveonly a few minutes away from Geno I could crash practice

 

[Zanzman]

Cafe Aura could have opened weeks ago like other restaurants as long as they served people outside. Next week restaurants can reopen indoor dining areas.

Not sure Aura has outdoor seating but yes phase 2 is June 17 th

 

[hoopsfan22]

Not sure Aura has outdoor seating but yes phase 2 is June 17 th

I don't think it does which is why Geno and a bunch of other restaurant owners were lobbying to allow some indoor dining when phase 1 started.

 

[eebmg]

This report from the WHO if true seems to be very encouraging and a possible game changer in dealing with Cov19

“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing in Geneva

“We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing,” she said.

“They’re following asymptomatic cases. They’re following contacts. And they’re not finding secondary transmission onward. It’s very rare,” she said

Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is 'very rare,' WHO says

Government responses should focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, said the WHO's Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Bigboote]

This report from the WHO if true seems to be very encouraging and a possible game changer in dealing with Cov19

“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing in Geneva

“We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing,” she said.

“They’re following asymptomatic cases. They’re following contacts. And they’re not finding secondary transmission onward. It’s very rare,” she said

Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is 'very rare,' WHO says

Government responses should focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, said the WHO's Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove.

www.cnbc.com

I wish there was some information in that article/the WHO statement rather than vague terms like most and rare. Specifically, I'd like to know which countries she's talking about. There was a paper published a couple of months ago about how one person in China, either pre- or asymptomatic, I don't remember which, infected a dozen or more people in a restaurant. It was pretty nifty how they mapped out the ventilation pattern and it matched who got sick. Some of these people were 15-20 feet away and had no contact with the carrier whatsoever.

But the virus that's in Europe and the US is a different strain. I'm hoping that the data the WHO person is citing are from Europe, and that the deadlier strain that's in Europe and the Americas is less transmissible than the Asian strain.

 

[eebmg]

I wish there was some information in that article/the WHO statement rather than vague terms like most and rare. Specifically, I'd like to know which countries she's talking about. There was a paper published a couple of months ago about how one person in China, either pre- or asymptomatic, I don't remember which, infected a dozen or more people in a restaurant. It was pretty nifty how they mapped out the ventilation pattern and it matched who got sick. Some of these people were 15-20 feet away and had no contact with the carrier whatsoever.

But the virus that's in Europe and the US is a different strain. I'm hoping that the data the WHO person is citing are from Europe, and that the deadlier strain that's in Europe and the Americas is less transmissible than the Asian strain.

Not quite sure about different strains? I think there is alot of confusion on this issue

COVID-19: Symptoms, incubation, prevention, and more

COVID-19 is a highly contagious infectious disease resulting from a recently identified coronavirus. Learn to curb its spread and more here.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Even if this is the case, I guess my first thoughts are that the general secrecy of China would make access to large data sets far less likely. So I would say the datasets come from more open societies.

 

[oldude]

Did not know about different strains?

I guess my first thoughts are that the general secrecy of China would make access to large data sets far less likely. So I would say the datasets come from more open societies.

If you live in NY you learn all about different strains. Scientists determined that a different strain of the virus reached NY after the China travel ban, during a period of time when 3 million travelers from Europe entered through NY airports. The theory is that the original strain from China made its way to Europe where it mutated. Subsequently, Europeans, likely from Italy, who were infected with the mutated strain travelled to America.

 

[Charliebball]

Cafe Aura could have opened weeks ago like other restaurants as long as they served people outside. Next week restaurants can reopen indoor dining areas.

I don't know how many he has but I thought I read here on the BY that his restaurant closed for good.........

 

[hoopsfan22]

I don't know how many he has but I thought I read here on the BY that his restaurant closed for good.........

Sounds like all of his other ones have closed, so now I think he is just down to his latest and greatest. Guess this means he's gonna have to coach a little longer if not successful in his side gig.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

I wish there was some information in that article/the WHO statement rather than vague terms like most and rare. Specifically, I'd like to know which countries she's talking about. There was a paper published a couple of months ago about how one person in China, either pre- or asymptomatic, I don't remember which, infected a dozen or more people in a restaurant. It was pretty nifty how they mapped out the ventilation pattern and it matched who got sick. Some of these people were 15-20 feet away and had no contact with the carrier whatsoever.

But the virus that's in Europe and the US is a different strain. I'm hoping that the data the WHO person is citing are from Europe, and that the deadlier strain that's in Europe and the Americas is less transmissible than the Asian strain.

And they backtracked today. Getting back to it happens, we don't know how much, it needs to be studied. Once I read some of the details, it seems that much of their data was from contact testing that involved symptomatic individuals. I would expect that symptomatic individuals are indeed very contagious, especially when they are coughing all over.

 

[Sifaka]

And they backtracked today.

So they did.

"In a briefing today, the World Health Organisation [WHO] said it was "absolutely convinced" that asymptomatic cases were occurring despite having limited data.
According to their analysis, somewhere between 14% to 40% of cases were caused by symptom-less carriers."

source: Up to 40% of coronavirus cases caused by those who have no symptoms, WHO says

"While asymptomatic spread of the coronavirus does occur, the portion of asymptomatic individuals who transmit the virus remains a "big open question," Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO's emergencies program, said during the Q & A."

source: WHO walks back comments on asymptomatic coronavirus spread, says much is still unknown

 

[oldude]

This is really alarming. Less than 2 weeks after allowing athletes to return to campus on June 1 for voluntary workouts, the University of Houston has shut down all workouts as 6 symptomatic football players tested positive for Covid-19. Houston is another school like Louisiana Tech that had declined to test returning athletes unless they showed symptoms.

 

[Dokey]

I wish there was some information in that article/the WHO statement rather than vague terms like most and rare. Specifically, I'd like to know which countries she's talking about. There was a paper published a couple of months ago about how one person in China, either pre- or asymptomatic, I don't remember which, infected a dozen or more people in a restaurant. It was pretty nifty how they mapped out the ventilation pattern and it matched who got sick. Some of these people were 15-20 feet away and had no contact with the carrier whatsoever.

But the virus that's in Europe and the US is a different strain. I'm hoping that the data the WHO person is citing are from Europe, and that the deadlier strain that's in Europe and the Americas is less transmissible than the Asian strain.

WHO retracted statement.

 

[Charliebball]

This is really alarming. Less than 2 weeks after allowing athletes to return to campus on June 1 for voluntary workouts, the University of Houston has shut down all workouts as 6 symptomatic football players tested positive for Covid-19. Houston is another school like Louisiana Tech that had declined to test returning athletes unless they showed symptoms.

every player and athletic staff member should be tested before day one and then every week for the rest of the season............that's the only way it's going to work and even then it's going to be difficult......

 

[Alydar]

every player and athletic staff member should be tested before day one and then every week for the rest of the season............that's the only way it's going to work and even then it's going to be difficult......

Football & volleyball will be the guinea pigs. Hopefully they get things working well for the real important sport.

 

[oldude]

Football & volleyball will be the guinea pigs. Hopefully they get things working well for the real important sport.

I had not thought about volleyball as a potential trial run for basketball. But now that I think about it, there are key similarities. Both sports are played indoors on a court with 5 or 6 player teams in close proximity, breathing hard on each other.

 

[oldude]

In what is anticipated to become a common practice at colleges around the country, returning tOSU athletes are being required to sign a waiver that commits them to follow a number of standard safety practices relative to COVID-19, as well as acknowledging that they may be at risk of contracting the disease.

The practice of signing liability waivers appears to be a growing trend which includes the N.Y. Stock Exchange, political rallies and now college sports. One can only wonder if we will all have to sign waivers before we enter a grocery store or restaurant. That’s not so far fetched. Last week I had to sign a waiver prior to my 6 month visit to the dentist.

 

[eebmg]

In what is anticipated to become a common practice at colleges around the country, returning tOSU athletes are being required to sign a waiver that commits them to follow a number of standard safety practices relative to COVID-19, as well as acknowledging that they may be at risk of contracting the disease.

The practice of signing liability waivers appears to be a growing trend which includes the N.Y. Stock Exchange, political rallies and now college sports. One can only wonder if we will all have to sign waivers before we enter a grocery store or restaurant. That’s not so far fetched. Last week I had to sign a waiver prior to my 6 month visit to the dentist.

In the end, I think Liability will be on the burden of the workplace to maintain an environment consistent with the best practices as defined by medical authority. In that sense, personal waivers do not mean much. If you sign one, and then the place of business is found to be negligent in some way, the waiver will not likely matter and in the opposite direction, you are probably protected against liability if your place of business follows standard medical rules and requirements.

P.S. I am not a lawyer (or anything close).

 

[Steelerone]

Where the hell is Carnac when we need him?

They reopened happy hours at the pubs.