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bags27 said:
you mean "misspell" his name the way I do? :)
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I was really trying to avoid sounding like the spelling police. They're frowned upon around here. Whatever works for you Bags is OK with me. ;)
 
Fiftyish said:
I was really trying to avoid sounding like the spelling police. They're frowned upon around here. Whatever works for you Bags is OK with me. ;)
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Thanks Fiftyish but that's an important one, so I really appreciate it! I'm getting old enough that these types of ticks just enter (whatever's left of) my intellectual skills and stay until someone (usually my schoolteacher wife) corrects me.
 
hoophuskee said:
Whose minutes will you drop? Gabby is getting close to 20 right now at 19.6.
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Too late now, but if Morgan's minutes had been reduced a bit maybe her knee might not be aggravated. Don't understand why she was out there so much in the blowouts. I thought they might save her minutes( and knee) for the tournament. I think Gabby should be at 22-23 minutes. I guess I'd take some time from Kia and Napheesa. Give Kia a break a bit more often, and, everything considered, I think Gabby is more productive than Napheesa .
 
easttexastrash said:
Yes, tinker with the chemistry of this team that is on a 50+ game win streak, soon to be 60+. Wait, don't do that until right before you play Baylor in the National Championship game.
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In how many of their games this year( won by an average of 39.1 points) do you think that "chemistry" was critical in the final results?
 
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boontonbomber said:
Too late now, but if Morgan's minutes had been reduced a bit maybe her knee might not be aggravated. Don't understand why she was out there so much in the blowouts. I thought they might save her minutes( and knee) for the tournament. I think Gabby should be at 22-23 minutes. I guess I'd take some time from Kia and Napheesa. Give Kia a break a bit more often, and, everything considered, I think Gabby is more productive than Napheesa .
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You have to play your best players enough to get them ready - Morgan was coming off a full season without issue and a full summer of rest - no reason to suspect the knee would start acting up. She played the tough early schedule without any significant issues and then ... This is an experiment sitting her, to see if they can break the cycle of good and bad days that developed over the last 6 weeks by giving her a solid recuperative rest. If it doesn't work then they will likely go back to playing her when she feels good and sitting her when she doesn't for the rest of the year.
 
boontonbomber said:
Too late now, but if Morgan's minutes had been reduced a bit maybe her knee might not be aggravated. Don't understand why she was out there so much in the blowouts. I thought they might save her minutes( and knee) for the tournament. I think Gabby should be at 22-23 minutes. I guess I'd take some time from Kia and Napheesa. Give Kia a break a bit more often, and, everything considered, I think Gabby is more productive than Napheesa .
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Huh? You said you would have taken minutes away from Tuck because of her injury issues, and now you also want to take from Kia and Napheesa too? If all you are going to do is add about 3 minutes to Gabby and you were concerned Tuck was playing 28.6 minutes vs 25.5 last year then you will probably be taking away minutes just from Tuck, and not the other two, right?

I'm only being that picky with this because the initial thread - the OP and or another poster who doesn't like Nurse's game much at all- wants Kia more-or-less benched until she hits her shots more. Which I don't agree with. And in regards to Collier- her shot facing the basket as a frosh is superior to what Gabby's was as a frosh. Therefore next year or maybe even late this year her shot will become more smooth - maybe next year with that "Soph jump." So why take minutes from her now- when you can drop Tuck's?

So in summary if you want Gabby at 22.5 minutes - add three to her and drop Tuck by three then keep the rest the same, right?
 
Nurse just needs to jack-up more 3's. She's such a great shooter. ;-)

Hope I didn't hurt anyone's sensibilities or feelings. Just callin' it liked it is.
While I'm watching, wish Collier could make a lay-up. Remember how frustrating it was watching Charles shoot lay-ups as a freshman? Those poor backboards.
 
Eggman said:
Nurse just needs to jack-up more 3's. She's such a great shooter. ;-)

Hope I didn't hurt anyone's sensibilities or feelings. Just callin' it liked it is.
While I'm watching, wish Collier could make a lay-up. Remember how frustrating it was watching Charles shoot lay-ups as a freshman? Those poor backboards.
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Thanks for your contribution.
 
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Sorry. I forgot. Thou shall not criticize the king and his court. :)
 
I love how some people can find fault with a team that's on the third-longest winning streak ever. It's unbelievable. I'm not saying they are perfect, but geez, the nitpicking on here is unreal. I'm sure tons of teams would love to have Kia Nurse's shooting. Or Collier at all, for that matter.
 
UCONN hasn't lost a game since Kia entered the starting lineup. Enough said. If you fail to see her on-court contributions then you're not watching closely enough....or you've simply decided your favorite is being short-changed and should have her minutes.
 
The OP has asserted that he is a man of strong faith. I suggest he aim some of it toward Geno's coaching judgment. :rolleyes:
 
2 things and I've had my fun:why even have a forum if everyone wears the same rose-colored glasses; and 2, with a team as good as uconn and virtually everyone on it, one has to nitpick to create any excitement(I think there's a well known fairly successful coach who does something similar to help his players become the best they can).
 
Eggman said:
2 things and I've had my fun:why even have a forum if everyone wears the same rose-colored glasses; and 2, with a team as good as uconn and virtually everyone on it, one has to nitpick to create any excitement(I think there's a well known fairly successful coach who does something similar to help his players become the best they can).
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Why do posters like you get so defensive? Why does everyone have to agree with you? Or talk about only what you want to talk about? I don't get why you feel a need to define what is fun in a forum.

And could you explain why there shouldn't be so many rose-colored glasses? Because you say-so?
 
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Well, A) it's a fan forum, so yes, we are mostly fans

and B) Uconn hasn't lost since Kia has started, hence the rose colored glasses. Things look pretty rosy with our starting five right now.
 
CocoHusky said:
Because we are UCONN. We have Geno. Geno is not in the habit of changing the starting line up based on the opponent. His philosophy is to be balanced enough that if a team wants to go small 4 guards then our bigs- ( regardless of how many start) have got to be able to take advantage of that. We like the box Geno has put us in!
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It has worked so far!
 
stamfordhusky said:
Yes, Geno's approach hasn't worked at all. Definitely time to change. Let's go with a mismatched starting five instead

Makes no sense at all.
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Makes no sense to you. Yes Geno has been successful - can't argue with that and like it very much. But if YOU have NOT tried it then what facts do you have to form a good decision, unless it is a personal BIASED one that you have presented (but don't take this as a negative statement against you but just realize that others do have opinions which are to be respected). Remember we all here are not getting paid to do this, just having fun - hopefully!
 
Geno-ista said:
I'm surprised Geno hasn't figured this out yet- imagine how many more NC's he would have if he thought outside the box- like you???
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Don't judge a book by its cover O Wise One - for the person you judge might be a person who is very successful in their profession thinking outside of the box! Maybe he would have won more in a row like John Wooden or the Red of the Celtics
 
hoophuskee said:
You think she is going to get more rebounds vs USC? Maybe. But because she is so small maybe she'll struggle vs the elite teams that pose a threat to us like USC too. And you realize Nurse has a near 2-1 assists to turnover ratio while with Gabby it is 1 to 1, right? SO for one thing you can count on Nurse to pass the ball well. We don't know what we can count on with Gabby vs USC, do we? So when Nurse is in the game there is a better chance she'll get the ball in good positions for players like Stewie and Tuck while you propose less ball movement and propose to take away better shots for Stewie and Tuck. I say that because- I'll reiterate-- the assists vs turnovers Nurse is far superior.

So you want to limit touches for Stewie and Tuck, want less ball movement so you can watch Gabby get more offensive rebounds? There was a coach down in Tennessee who believed in less ball movement (not necessarily but never ran much of a creative offense) and pound the glass telling everyone rebounds wins titles - but later on when UCONN started to become a bigger threat she sought out greater offensive ball movement, right? So you want us to go backwards and not play the style of two guards that we've done for so many years while winning many titles and then call your method "thinking out of the box?" IMO your box has been closed and become obsolete for many years. No reason to open it.

It's not "thinking out of the box" when you are limiting chances of getting Stewie and Tuck the ball in winning positions. Gabby's 1-to-1 assists to turnover ratio doesn't help Stewie or Tuck as much as Nurse's near 2 to 1. And now that you have taken away our 2nd best ball-handler - you've hindered our fastbreak potential because we only have one "very good" ball handler that can pass well on the run in the open court. Now you've turned us into a more halfcourt team thereby we take less shots and are a lot less exciting for both fans and recruits. I'm sorry but the box you are proposing is completely the wrong size and the material extinct like the dinosaur.
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hoophuskee said:
You think she is going to get more rebounds vs USC? Maybe. But because she is so small maybe she'll struggle vs the elite teams that pose a threat to us like USC too. And you realize Nurse has a near 2-1 assists to turnover ratio while with Gabby it is 1 to 1, right? SO for one thing you can count on Nurse to pass the ball well. We don't know what we can count on with Gabby vs USC, do we? So when Nurse is in the game there is a better chance she'll get the ball in good positions for players like Stewie and Tuck while you propose less ball movement and propose to take away better shots for Stewie and Tuck. I say that because- I'll reiterate-- the assists vs turnovers Nurse is far superior.

So you want to limit touches for Stewie and Tuck, want less ball movement so you can watch Gabby get more offensive rebounds? There was a coach down in Tennessee who believed in less ball movement (not necessarily but never ran much of a creative offense) and pound the glass telling everyone rebounds wins titles - but later on when UCONN started to become a bigger threat she sought out greater offensive ball movement, right? So you want us to go backwards and not play the style of two guards that we've done for so many years while winning many titles and then call your method "thinking out of the box?" IMO your box has been closed and become obsolete for many years. No reason to open it.

It's not "thinking out of the box" when you are limiting chances of getting Stewie and Tuck the ball in winning positions. Gabby's 1-to-1 assists to turnover ratio doesn't help Stewie or Tuck as much as Nurse's near 2 to 1. And now that you have taken away our 2nd best ball-handler - you've hindered our fastbreak potential because we only have one "very good" ball handler that can pass well on the run in the open court. Now you've turned us into a more halfcourt team thereby we take less shots and are a lot less exciting for both fans and recruits. I'm sorry but the box you are proposing is completely the wrong size and the material extinct like the dinosaur.
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You have a very good point and I appreciate the tone and style of writing in which you presented your view. Thank you
 
RunItUp! said:
Don't judge a book by its cover O Wise One - for the person you judge might be a person who is very successful in their profession thinking outside of the box! Maybe he would have won more in a row like John Wooden or the Red of the Celtics
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Now we entering the land of ridiculousness. Geno has used many different combinations, maybe not the one you like. Differing opinions are good for conversation but like a bad joke, if you have to explain your opinion multiple times, it was bad.
 
RunItUp! said:
I like your analysis and solid reasoning
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The SC game will see if we can box out the bigs so they can't dominate the boards, keep them from stacking the middle with ball movement side to side. BOX OUT is the key, don't take your eyes off the bigs when you under the basket, start boxing them out from the foul line and make them fight their way under the basketball. This will use up a lot of their energy so that their shots will fall short beginning the middle of the 3rd quarter. Rotate Big Natalie, Gabby, Tuck and Collier like the Dayton coach used on us in his game against us, and let these 4 bang the SC bigs. But it is easier to play good BIGS then good GUARDS
 
CocoHusky said:
Stewie is as good a leader as any player to ever EVER EVER wear a UCONN uniform. If you really want to go there and compare her to DT just remember Freshmen DT came up short in the game previously referenced. Freshmen Stewie ripped the heart out of a Diggins ND team and ND has still not recovered almost 4 years later.
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You make a very good point
 
CocoHusky said:
Stewie is as good a leader as any player to ever EVER EVER wear a UCONN uniform. If you really want to go there and compare her to DT just remember Freshmen DT came up short in the game previously referenced. Freshmen Stewie ripped the heart out of a Diggins ND team and ND has still not recovered almost 4 years later.
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Coco - don't usually disagree on these types of things and I think Stewart compares very well to both DT and Maya, but ...
I don't think Stewart is the type of 'leader' that either of those two players were or that Morgan and Moriah are on the current team. I think it is a question of how much you need to put on a players shoulders, and with Stef and Bria and Morgan and Moriah there was no reason to push Stewart to take on those responsibilities as well. With DT and Maya the first two years of their careers there was no need either with Sue et al, and Rene around. But in their last two years there was no one else, and they already tended in that direction anyway.
Stewart leads with her skill on the court but has been allowed to defer more of the team responsibility because Morgan is a natural, and Moriah by position is as well. You saw that dynamic play out in the U19 team as well where Morgan was appointed captain by the coach to lessen the burden on Stewart.
Not saying Stewart isn't capable and hasn't taken a part in the leadership, just that it is a lesser responsibility for her than for others.
 
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