Remember when UNC had fake classes and then never got punished?

[amory]

They just rode it out. Let the criticism come, and just sat back and waited. And then...nothing happened. People stopped talking about it.

The NCAA is great. Are they even pretending to be continuing their "investigation" anymore?

 

[Leebo]

UNC used the timeline to their advantage to kick the can down the road, but they just got more allegations added in December. You can't expect people to talk about it nonstop in today's media landscape.

 

[Minicoop69]

UNC used the timeline to their advantage to kick the can down the road, but they just got more allegations added in December. You can't expect people to talk about it nonstop in today's media landscape.

Is it like a 6 month time frame per new allegation?

 

[uconngb]

They just rode it out. Let the criticism come, and just sat back and waited. And then...nothing happened. People stopped talking about it.

The NCAA is great. Are they even pretending to be continuing their "investigation" anymore?

We all know what's going to happen....no sense obsessing about it

 

[UChusky916]

UNC used the timeline to their advantage to kick the can down the road, but they just got more allegations added in December. You can't expect people to talk about it nonstop in today's media landscape.

Why not? They did for UConn's APR issues and post-season ban.

 

[7774]

They just rode it out. Let the criticism come, and just sat back and waited. And then...nothing happened. People stopped talking about it.

The NCAA is great. Are they even pretending to be continuing their "investigation" anymore?

Didn't the NCAA come out and reinstate the allegations against the football and basketball teams like 2 months ago?

I hope they keep dragging it out, it's hurting their basketball recruiting for sure. Their 2017 class is 3 3 star players and a 4 star player.

 

[champs99and04]

Didn't the NCAA come out and reinstate the allegations against the football and basketball teams like 2 months ago?

I hope they keep dragging it out, it's hurting their basketball recruiting for sure. Their 2017 class is 3 3 star players and a 4 star player.

With Roy getting up there, State getting ready to fill a coaching vacancy with potentially one of the hottest young names in the game, and sanctions looming, you wonder if these next couple years could be the swan song of the most recent golden age of UNC hoops.

I can envision a scenario where the tobacco road scene looks a lot different in a few years, especially with Danny Manning now having Wake moving in the right direction.

 

[freescooter]

The sanctions will probably be vacating the 2016 national championship and ol Roy has to retire when he decides to retire. And they have to pinky swear they won't use fake classes anymore.

 

[7774]

With Roy getting up there, State getting ready to fill a coaching vacancy with potentially one of the hottest young names in the game, and sanctions looming, you wonder if these next couple years could be the swan song of the most recent golden age of UNC hoops.

I can envision a scenario where the tobacco road scene looks a lot different in a few years, especially with Danny Manning now having Wake moving in the right direction.

Yeah it will be interesting to see how it plays out. It's definitely crazy to see a North Carolina recruiting class with 3 of the 4 players ranked in the 200's.

 

[raf46]

They just rode it out. Let the criticism come, and just sat back and waited. And then...nothing happened. People stopped talking about it.

The NCAA is great. Are they even pretending to be continuing their "investigation" anymore?

sacred cow will not be gored. Not only UNC. Whare is Beau Berghdal?

 

[Jaker]

What happened to the Louisville hooker investigation?

 

[ctchamps]

No worries folks. The NCAA is using the same investigative team they've used for Miami in the UNC and Louisville investigations.

 

[uconngb]

With Roy getting up there, State getting ready to fill a coaching vacancy with potentially one of the hottest young names in the game, and sanctions looming, you wonder if these next couple years could be the swan song of the most recent golden age of UNC hoops.

I can envision a scenario where the tobacco road scene looks a lot different in a few years, especially with Danny Manning now having Wake moving in the right direction.

While we can all hope and pray for that, I give that about the same odds as I have of banging Giselle.....ie, less than zero

 

[jibsey]

I've gotten tired over the last years starting threads on this. Every time I do the answer is always "these things take time". If they take so much time how come we were on The Nightly News and then sanctioned so quickly for APR ?

 

[Leebo]

I've gotten tired over the last years starting threads on this. Every time I do the answer is always "these things take time". If they take so much time how come we were on The Nightly News and then sanctioned so quickly for APR ?

Is this a serious question? APR is a calculation... it takes zero time once the number comes in.

 

[jibsey]

Is this a serious question? APR is a calculation... it takes zero time once the number comes in.

Think about the seriousness of keeping players on the floor with fake courses and grades. How long should it take to figure that out? Please. Are you trying to tell me that they don't know if any of the basketball team members were in any of the courses. Did those fake grades keep their GPA"s eligible? I guess we need WWII enigma code breakers for this.

 

[Robertelamin]

Is this a serious question? APR is a calculation... it takes zero time once the number comes in.

I don't think that is the point though. This story is like 3 years old now.

 

[Leebo]

The problem is not that the NCAA can't figure it out (well, not entirely), it's that since it's an investigation and not a calculation, there is a long, drawn out back and forth process that UNC can make longer if they choose to.

 

[amory]

The problem is not that the NCAA can't figure it out (well, not entirely), it's that since it's an investigation and not a calculation, there is a long, drawn out back and forth process that UNC can make longer if they choose to.

It's long past time to announce the findings and punishments *so far*.

UNC should be free (and hell, encouraged!) to continue to self disclose the bad things that their fraud of a program has done and probably continues to do. But the idea that they've been able to bury this story and kick the can down the road by saying "wait, we did even MORE bad stuff, let's make sure everything comes out before we hand down punishments" is absurd.

I know the NCAA fears the P5 and especially the supposed "crown jewels" of the P5 but SPOILER ALERT NCAA, the P5 is going to in the a at any possible opportunity from here on out if it means they can make more money and/or further barricade themselves from the unwashed masses of the G5. Helping UNC bury their garbage is not going to help you.

 

[Horatio]

As a Uconn fan I've been waiting for the outcome of other programs investigations
With a slim hope that the NCAA will harshly punish the other "blue blood" programs like we got punished . It's Not gonna happen. We got hit hard because they hate us and hated Calhoun. End of story.

 

[temery]

Is this a serious question? APR is a calculation... it takes zero time once the number comes in.

The apr only affects schools honest enough to fail kids who don't earn passing grades.

 

[freescooter]

UConn screwed up and suffered for it. UNC basically ran a criminal enterprise and nothing happened.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

The apr only affects schools honest enough to fail kids who don't earn passing grades.

Or, requiring student-athletes to enroll in a majority of actual courses with legitimate course requirements, classes, etc. Sliding through physical education, communications, sociology, HDFR, etc. with a fair does of complementary gut classes is one thing, but schools funneling athletes to majors with almost no real classes, dubious grading, etc. a la UNC takes it to an entirely different level. Such a ¥%£#€?£ joke the University of No Classes is ,,,

 

[jibsey]

Maybe UNC didn't have the Out and out basket weaving courses they needed so that's why they put this in place. All I can figure is that the easiest courses they had were still getting their players' averages below the mason dixon line. Our guys were in real courses I assume which when they didn't do their work is one of the reasons they were hammered. The entire system is not equitable. Everyone would have to take the same academic strength courses to compare and it's not remotely possible. The APR is a joke for that reason. The fraud is a different story. That should be punishable by 5 years out of the tourney.

 

[Travelman6]

Maybe American UNI should function first and foremost as places of higher learning and enroll those who can hack it and hold any athletes to the same standard. I know, tall order.