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Reibe in the portal

Uconn77Duke74 said:
Financially there may be a time where we have to just take a year or two off, save our money those years, then go on a big spending spree to try to win.
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Talk about a lame solution. If Reibe would rather go to a loser like UW to be Steinbach, then you know the essence of CB is broken.
 
That Guy said:
Yeah, I don't think I agree with the style of play reasoning. Why would he commit to UConn in the first place when he knew Hurley likes his centers to be bruisers and dominate inside offensively and defensively?

I don't think he wanted to entertain the possibility of getting 15 mins/game next season off the bench. I think he simply wants to start already next season and he will go to any power conference team that guarantees him that opportunity, which is fair.
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Hurley was trying to push our offense to be even more movement than it was when we won our chips. Our big could score from 10 feet and in, and pass, and be all over the place. And we would have 4 guys that could hit 3s. This year kind of showed that maybe thats not the best plan. 1 - shooting 3s isnt reliable especially when refs allow holding. 2 - The best teams are all getting bigger and tougher inside. So Reibe seemed like the way to go, but now I think Hurley is tweaking his approach. We're still going to rely on tons of movement but we need more toughness and more penetrators / creators / foul drawers.
 
RuffRuff said:
Talk about a lame solution. If Reibe would rather go to a loser like UW to be Steinbach, then you know the essence of CB is broken.
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The essence of CB is already broken, portal era made sure of that. It used to be that players stayed or turned pro, now they are completely unrestricted free agents each and every year. It is so odd to see that such and such player reached agreement to return for another season. Reibe made it to the championship game in first year in a program that is known to develop big men and that wasn't enough.
 
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temery said:
I don't understand how the Supreme Court has said that professional sports are a game and they can be regulated and run like a game. But college sports should be a free-for-all.
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Along with the anti trust exemption thing, it's also because professional sports recognizes that their athletes are employees and the NCAA refuses to do so. That allows them to collectively bargain.
 
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NHUConnfan said:
That's because all of the other major sports have an anti-trust exemption*

The dam broke in 2021 when SCOTUS ruled that the NCAA was violating anti-trust laws in NCAA v. Alston.

The only people who can stop this is Congress and they would have to grant a similar anti-trust exemption, but in order to do that they would need to classify these athletes as employees formally. And universities don't want that either. So here we are!


*MLB's exemption is through a 1922 SCOTUS decision that if actually challenged on its merits will get overturned because it was ruled that MLB is not interstate commerce because games are played at a fixed location. It's why the MLBPA doesn't need to agree to a salary cap because they could blow up the shaky exemption at any time.
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Why wouldn't universities want to consider them employees? So many university students are already employees and they even count them in the total dead count of staffers to students.

The decision in Alston over turned the Brown U. case which created a special class for research and teaching assistants, so Alston already undercut any ability for universities not to consider them employees.
 
auror said:
Along with the anti trust exemption thing, it's also because professional sports recognizes that their athletes are employees and the NCAA refuses to do so. That allows them to collectively bargain.
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My guess is 95% of athletes at every college in the United States are not even close to employees and likely don't even make a penny in NIL. But if collected bargaining were to make sense, I'm out for it. I'm guessing it would be a problem because the other 95% of the athletes would have to be paid to.
 
Reibe actually got more minutes per game than Clingan in their Freshman years.
Reibe: 13.8 minutes, 5.9 points, 3.3 rebounds, 0.7 blocks
Clingan: 13.1 minutes, 6.9 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.8 blocks
Perhaps someone tapered and promised him millions but otherwise the decision lacks perspective, in my view. Both had a top senior center ahead of them their freshman year, but as a sophomore Clingan won a NC, got drafted 7th for $30 million and is achieving stardom in the NBA.
It is tough for any freshman to project how year 2 may be a different experience than year 1. That’s why it’s important to have advisors and agents that can see beyond a quick buck, and in the kid’s long term interest.
 
When a person's attitude goes sideways in work, Life, love, or even basketball, very often change is the only solution. Reibe knows we would bring in a top tier center to share the 5 spot and compete for both minutes, and a starting position, it's how it is. He may have wanted to play differently and over time Hurley would have worked that into our offense if it was effective. Look at how he used SJ at the 5, running stuff for him.

Reibe just wanted out for whatever his reasons are. He'll be good somewhere.
 
Chief00 said:
Reibe actually got more minutes per game than Clingan in their Freshman years.
Reibe: 13.8 minutes, 5.9 points, 3.3 rebounds, 0.7 blocks
Clingan: 13.1 minutes, 6.9 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.8 blocks
Perhaps someone tapered and promised him millions but otherwise the decision lacks perspective, in my view. Both had a top senior center ahead of them their freshman year, but as a sophomore Clingan won a NC, got drafted 7th for $30 million and is achieving stardom in the NBA.
It is tough for any freshman to project how year 2 may be a different experience than year 1. That’s why it’s important to have advisors and agents that can see beyond a quick buck, and in the kid’s long term interest.
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Clingan was also a draft prospect after that 2023 title but him and his father had the situationally appropriate perspective. This year's Team went just as far but Reibe wasn't on any of the year's Mock Boards. It's either Tampering, or his "Camp's" perspective is that his development will course correct elsewhere. Either way we should thank him for his contributions.
 
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Emoney2737 said:
He has more inside information than most people on this board
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Seriously lol. He can FaceTime anyone on our staff at anytime before midnight. Ridiculousness. He has also probably had long form conversations with the Eric's old man.
 
Chief00 said:
Reibe actually got more minutes per game than Clingan in their Freshman years.
Reibe: 13.8 minutes, 5.9 points, 3.3 rebounds, 0.7 blocks
Clingan: 13.1 minutes, 6.9 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.8 blocks
Perhaps someone tapered and promised him millions but otherwise the decision lacks perspective, in my view. Both had a top senior center ahead of them their freshman year, but as a sophomore Clingan won a NC, got drafted 7th for $30 million and is achieving stardom in the NBA.
It is tough for any freshman to project how year 2 may be a different experience than year 1. That’s why it’s important to have advisors and agents that can see beyond a quick buck, and in the kid’s long term interest.
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Good observation and stats.
Kinda points out Reibe’s potential. Not as good as Clingan but if Hurley brings in a beefy one-year center he could really benefit from practice and bring up those defensive numbers. Apparently his advisors don’t recognize this.
 
Chief00 said:
Reibe actually got more minutes per game than Clingan in their Freshman years.
Reibe: 13.8 minutes, 5.9 points, 3.3 rebounds, 0.7 blocks
Clingan: 13.1 minutes, 6.9 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.8 blocks
Perhaps someone tapered and promised him millions but otherwise the decision lacks perspective, in my view. Both had a top senior center ahead of them their freshman year, but as a sophomore Clingan won a NC, got drafted 7th for $30 million and is achieving stardom in the NBA.
It is tough for any freshman to project how year 2 may be a different experience than year 1. That’s why it’s important to have advisors and agents that can see beyond a quick buck, and in the kid’s long term interest.
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You cannot compare these two defensively based on their blocks. Clingan put the fear of God in anyone coming near the paint, Reibe not at all. Clingan also saw more time in the tourney, Reibe reduced. Much of Reibe's minutes were when Reed was out, or getting back up to speed. They were very uneven.
 
Feared this would happen… love Hurley but he didn’t use Reibe right you can tell he didn’t encourage his ability to stretch the floor & I believe it turned reibe off kids gotta lot of potential hate to see him go if he actually leaves
 
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inWV said:
It seems Hurley likes the idea of two centers in the mix, so he is going to get two centers that fit that bill.
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Having 10 fouls at that position instead of 5 is a must; especially in the Big East and reffing. Have to keep the paint honest and punish invaders with shot blocking as well as rebound with aggression.
 
HungryHu5ky said:
Feared this would happen… love Hurley but he didn’t use Reibe right you can tell he didn’t encourage his ability to stretch the floor & I believe it turned reibe off kids gotta lot of potential hate to see him go if he actually leaves
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Don't need to stretch the floor at the expense of guarding the lane and rebounding. Plenty of 3 point shooters. Position requires domination. See final four teams. If you can shoot an occasional three great (Sanogo, Clingan). We have been through this before with other kids.
 
UconnU said:
He had one of the highest foul rates in the country. He’s going to be good but he just couldn’t stop fouling.
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That's really odd because it was the other way around earlier in the year. In any event the guy who does things Hurley's way is the one going to get the minutes. I noticed a change in Reed down the stretch. He wasn't committing a lot of stupid fouls which he seemed forever to be doing before. He also looked to be a lot stronger endurance wise (not huffing and puffing). Poor Eric; the Big East is about as far from Euro-ball as you can get.
 
HungryHu5ky said:
Feared this would happen… love Hurley but he didn’t use Reibe right you can tell he didn’t encourage his ability to stretch the floor & I believe it turned reibe off kids gotta lot of potential hate to see him go if he actually leaves
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So you are arguing for the Double Bigs since someone has to get rebounds. Seems like someone mentioned that all season?
How many 3pt shots did Clingan take in college - did that hurt him this year?
 
dennismenace said:
Don't need to stretch the floor at the expense of guarding the lane and rebounding. Plenty of 3 point shooters. Position requires domination. See final four teams. If you can shoot an occasional three great (Sanogo, Clingan). We have been through this before with other kids.
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We don't and never needed a face up 5 with how we build the rest of the roster. Let's see how he does elsewhere - have yet to see someone transfer out from under Hurley that has shown any kind of real success (high major tourney team success). Maybe Reibe is a first.
 
dennismenace said:
Don't need to stretch the floor at the expense of guarding the lane and rebounding. Plenty of 3 point shooters. Position requires domination. See final four teams. If you can shoot an occasional three great (Sanogo, Clingan). We have been through this before with other kids.
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Again Hurley didn’t lt him flourish he’s not clingan he a finesse style player his strongest contribution would been to maximize his ability to stretch the floor which would’ve add much more to this dynamic team opening opportunities for other to have clear lanes for cutting or drives as bigs jus played off him & sat in the lane … he was used incorrectly
 
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i like reibe but with the way the game is going you really want someone who can draw fouls and be a bull down there. post dominance and passing to open shooters off of that is the optimal basketball strategy
 
Donavan shot 100% from 3 in 2023/2024 season (lol 1-1).
His 3’s this year are 34% (83 for 244).
 
upstater said:
Why wouldn't universities want to consider them employees? So many university students are already employees and they even count them in the total dead count of staffers to students.

The decision in Alston over turned the Brown U. case which created a special class for research and teaching assistants, so Alston already undercut any ability for universities not to consider them employees.
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Oh a billion reasons, like payroll taxes, Title IX compliance, workers comp, labor law exposure, loss of tax deduction status for boosters, etc...

It will shutter many athletic programs. The costs will be too great.
 
NHUConnfan said:
Oh a billion reasons, like payroll taxes, Title IX compliance, workers comp, labor law exposure, loss of tax deduction status for boosters, etc...

It will shutter many athletic programs. The costs will be too great.
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I thought the court ruling in the case was clear that athletes are to be treated like the Brown U. graduate union, employees. I don't understand why tax deduction status for boosters is at stake at all since the university is non-profit despite paying employees. There's no change there. Labor law exposure is already there; it's part of the entire reason the athletes won the case. They are to be treated like every other student/employee of the university. The Brown U. case created an exemption for graduate student teaching assistants to be treated as students, not employees, and that was later overturned. But the NCAA case cited the Brown U. case and all athletes were treated the same as graduate assistants. They are all subject to taxes and the norms of labor law in each state. Also, with one time stipends, it's not the schools who are required to pay taxes, but the athletes themselves.
 
uchusky32 said:
Coach Calhoun made a comment during one of our games that he talked to Dan about giving his young big more minutes.
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I think he “I’d like to see the German kid play a little more” or “the German big”.
Don’t recall saying he spoke to Hurley.
 
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