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Message: [QUOTE="Marbles90, post: 4314201, member: 7436"] Talk about deja vu. It feels like the same conversation every year. Last year it was adjusting to the heat in Fresno. Today the altitude in Utah? How confident was everyone after getting slapped by Fresno that we would bounce back against Holy Cross? There are bad teams every year in FBS. We are one of those bad teams and have been for a while. Other fans see us on their team's schedule and say "that's a win." While I agree that the expectations and success criteria should be at least a winning season, the reality is maybe this team is incrementally better. But then again, maybe not - especially against a tougher schedule this year. Love all the stuff Mora has been doing, but I won't believe any of it until I see it on the field. And that is all I am hoping for - something to give me real hope for this program for the future. [/QUOTE]