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[QUOTE="Lefty2one, post: 3549614, member: 1001"] He played 18 years for one team. He damn well better be the all-time leader in all those categories considering he played 522 more games for Indiana than anyone else did. He was close to playing twice as many games in a Pacer uniform as the next guy. He averaged three assists a game and is their all-time assist leader lol. He gets credit for longevity I guess? He's a compiler. 1) This is exactly my point. He misses a big shot and here come the excuses. What does his supporting cast have to do with him airballing arguably the biggest shot of his career? My point is that he never caught flak for coming up short. It was a standard Reggie play--a pindown leading to an open 18 footer and he didn't even draw iron. 2) It was a fluke year for Starks and Oakley making the ASG. Neither guy ever made another All-Star team. It was a situation where it was a "team" honor, like the Hawks sending their whole starting line up 5-6 years ago. Patrick Ewing's legacy is all about how the Knicks never gave him enough supporting talent, don't try to fluff up his supporting cast because of this one season. These were the only two All-Stars seasons Ewing got from teammates during his entire Knicks career. He never had a HOF teammate either. Also, the fact that John Starks made an All-Star team over Reggie in an MJ-less East says [I]a lot[/I] about Reggie. 3) This goes to my other post/point that those Pacers teams were really good despite not being sexy. What do people remember about the '95 ECSF? Reggie's 8 points in 8.9 seconds in Game 1. What do people not remember? That Rik Smits completely played Ewing that series and was the biggest reason the Pacers advanced. Smits and Miller both averaged 22.6 that series. Sure, he didn't make the All-Star team, but he was lethal in that series and in other big spots. Again, this is easy to follow: if your best player only averages 19.6/2.6/3.0 you NEED a really good supporting cast to go far in the playoffs. That's what Reggie averaged in '94-'95. You simply cannot make back to back conference finals if your best player only gives you that, not unless the supporting cast is a lot better than you're giving them credit for. We're not talking about some monster statistical output like we saw from LeBron when his supporting cast sucked. Reggie put up pedestrian numbers. I don't care how many of his teammates made the all-star team, it doesn't matter. Those Pacers teams were far greater than the sum of their parts. He also had two fantastic coaches in Larry Brown and Larry Bird. It's not lazy, hell it's not even a take. It's just another example of no one criticizing Reggie. He was like the little brother punching above his weight. No one batted an eye when he underperformed. Because I said it was a list of his shortcomings that no one mentions? That part was clear. [/QUOTE]
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