Rankings and Bracketology

[semper]

So much is now riding on the ND game. Where will be on Monday? 3 or 4? What will happen to StJ in the rankings? What about our seeding; we're a no. 1, so does this change anything?

 

[triaddukefan]

It should be Baylor, ND, UCONN, then Stanford.... but I assume Stanford will move up to #2... though they hardly deserve to be that high. 5-7 will be Maryland, Miami, and Duke.

 

[HuskyNan]

I think it will be Baylor, Stanford, ND and UConn. Stanford's loss to UConn was back in November, on the road and the Cardinal has been undefeated since then. ND is third by virtue of its win over UConn.

 

[MilfordHusky]

We'll be ranked 4th. Still a 1 seed. We need to play well in the BE tourney to ensure the 1.

 

[Samanthabrown3]

We'll be ranked 4th. Still a 1 seed. We need to play well in the BE tourney to ensure the 1.

I wonder how the team will respond to the pressure.

 

[MilfordHusky]

I wonder how the team will respond to the pressure.

That is the key!

 

[rjp172]

I think it will be Baylor, Stanford, ND and UConn. Stanford's loss to UConn was back in November, on the road and the Cardinal have been undefeated since then. ND is third by virtue of its win over UConn.

A significant number of voters didn't drop ND behind Stanford last week. The final vote was very close. That even included ridiculous votes to drop ND behind Duke and Miami to #6. With Duke also losing that shouldn't happen to UConn. Between the voters that kept ND at #2 (also ridiculous)/#3 previously and the voters that kept Stanford at #4 I wouldn't be totally shocked to see the polls revert to a couple weeks ago. The spread of #2,3, and 4 will be interesting among ND, UConn, and Stanford.

 

[MilfordHusky]

This week, I think the factor is number of losses, excluding Delaware:

1. Baylor--0

2. Stanford--1

3. Notre Dame--2

4. UConn--3

 

[MilfordHusky]

In terms of seedlings, Duke's loss to Maryland may have cost the Blue Devils any shot at a 1 seed.

 

[triaddukefan]

In terms of seedlings, Duke's loss to Maryland may have cost the Blue Devils any shot at a 1 seed.

I just hope we dont end up dropping to a three seed. Got the regular season championship game friday night at home vs Miami.... and a grudge match vs a UNC team looking for revenge. Then the ACC tourney.

 

[easttexastrash]

Baylor, Stanford, ND, UCONN

As previously stated, Stanford's loss was early and on the road. I don't truly think that they are the second best team and I doubt that the seeding committee will either when it comes to seedings in the NCAAs.

NCAA Seedings
Baylor
ND
UCONN
Stanford

ND and UCONN could flip depending on the next game and possible BE tourney game.

 

[JoePgh]

Here is the best scenario for UConn:

Stanford becomes the #2 overall seed in the NCAA tournament by finishing the regular season and conference tournament with one loss.

UConn beats ND twice at home (once on February 27, then a second time a week later on the same court in the Big East tournament), thus securing the #3 overall seed, which will insure that the National Semifinal games should be Stanford vs. UConn and Baylor vs. ND.

Notre Dame somehow (after consulting with Texas Tech) finds the anti-Griner kryptonite and defeats Baylor in Denver, setting up an all Big East final game. UConn then maintains its spotless record (currently 7-0) in national final games. That would also mark the second consecutive year that UConn ends the season with a 3-1 record against Notre Dame.

There is probably a 5-10% chance that this will actually happen.

 

[rington]

Here is the best scenario for UConn:

Stanford becomes the #2 overall seed in the NCAA tournament by finishing the regular season and conference tournament with one loss.

UConn beats ND twice at home (once on February 27, then a second time a week later on the same court in the Big East tournament), thus securing the #3 overall seed, which will insure that the National Semifinal games should be Stanford vs. UConn and Baylor vs. ND.

Notre Dame somehow (after consulting with Texas Tech) finds the anti-Griner kryptonite and defeats Baylor in Denver, setting up an all Big East final game. UConn then maintains its spotless record (currently 7-0) in national final games. That would also mark the second consecutive year that UConn ends the season with a 3-1 record against Notre Dame.

There is probably a 5-10% chance that this will actually happen.

Sounds good, though.

 

[MilfordHusky]

At this point, I don't like any of the Final Four match ups. Yeah, Stanford may be the weakest and we have beaten them but ... if Nneka does not have foul trouble, Chiney plays better, and Kaleena is not on fire again, we could very well lose to the Cardinal. Be careful what you wish for!

 

[rington]

It's in Uconn's hands: don't lose again through the BE Tourney(easier said than done), then a #1 seed. Right now, that is all that matters.

 

[cardfan]

It should be Baylor, ND, UCONN, then Stanford.... but I assume Stanford will move up to #2... though they hardly deserve to be that high. 5-7 will be Maryland, Miami, and Duke.

Why shouldn't Stanford move to 2?

 

[Icebear]

Why shouldn't Stanford move to 2?

I guess same as always, RPI and SOS. Stanford really needs help from the rest of the PAC 10.

 

[HuskyNan]

I guess same as always, RPI and SOS. Stanford really needs help from the rest of the PAC 10.

I seriously doubt the voters consult the RPI rankings before filling out their ballots.

 

[Icebear]

I seriously doubt the voters consult the RPI rankings before filling out their ballots.

I agree, I was noting the rationalizations that some would make.

 

[VAUConnFan]

Here is the best scenario for UConn:

Stanford becomes the #2 overall seed in the NCAA tournament by finishing the regular season and conference tournament with one loss.

UConn beats ND twice at home (once on February 27, then a second time a week later on the same court in the Big East tournament), thus securing the #3 overall seed, which will insure that the National Semifinal games should be Stanford vs. UConn and Baylor vs. ND.

Notre Dame somehow (after consulting with Texas Tech) finds the anti-Griner kryptonite and defeats Baylor in Denver, setting up an all Big East final game. UConn then maintains its spotless record (currently 7-0) in national final games. That would also mark the second consecutive year that UConn ends the season with a 3-1 record against Notre Dame.

There is probably a 5-10% chance that this will actually happen.

I do not believe the Final Four games are based on seeding. My belief is that the semifinal matchups are determined before the teams are even bracketed.

 

[rjp172]

I thought it was the opposite. How can you decide that a region plays another region when you place teams in regions based on geography. Is it part of the committees goal to make sure that for example this year the best team in the South plays the best team in the East.

 

[rjp172]

Why shouldn't Stanford move to 2?

Because unlike the other candidates their schedule worked out this year that they dodged all the main competition or teams worthy of proving yourself against except UConn. They would move to #2 based on record only. There is nothing that they've accomplished that shows they are better than UConn or ND. They may be, but losing your head to head then playing Texas doesn't cut it. Same goes for why Delaware and Green Bay, while good teams, don't deserve top 10 rankings.

 

[cardfan]

Because unlike the other candidates their schedule worked out this year that they dodged all the main competition or teams worthy of proving yourself against except UConn. They would move to #2 based on record only. There is nothing that they've accomplished that shows they are better than UConn or ND. They may be, but losing your head to head then playing Texas doesn't cut it. Same goes for why Delaware and Green Bay, while good teams, don't deserve top 10 rankings.

Stanford has not dodged anyone. As Nan pointed out re: the rankings, the voters don't refer to RPI or SOS, they go ny previous week(s) W/l results. ND fell because thet lost at home to unranked opponent, so the same thing is likely to happen to Uconn. Stanford came close to losing to Cal and OSU at home, but they pulled it out.