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gioff23 said:
We can not have brought in a guy who didn't start for his juco team to take meaningful snaps after a summer here - I pray. He is here for depth. And let's not act like we have tremendous depth at the position, we have 4 schollies there, which is low for 1A.

I, personally, would like to see BS as our #1 and stay on the field. I'd also like to see TB redshirt this year - as for what's the point, my point would be that he just completed his soph year and is on his 3rd HC and 4th O coordinator. I think he has talent, he just needs to slow the game down. Everyone points to Nova's QB and talks about how great he was. He was passed up, twice, for the starters role at Nova. Sometimes, things take time. Throwing kids not old enough to order a beer at the bar under the bus is a sport I will never understand.
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Aren't ya kinda contradicting yourself here by so quickly writing Anderson off? It's not like BS has a full season of meaningful snaps for NCST before he was supplanted.
 
gioff23 said:
Throwing kids not old enough to order a beer at the bar under the bus is a sport I will never understand.
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Go root for your hometown Pop Warner team if that's how you really feel. This is big time college football. Are we not allowed to talk reality and what we've all seen with our own eyes? I don't think many (save maybe a couple) have gone out of their way to knock Boyle hard. And those that have. . . . . .doesn't really bother me. I like Boyle. He's a good kid and has endured a lot here. He's been mismanaged by 3 head coaches in his 2 years here. That being said, he's shown nothing on the field that gives me any reason to believe that he will be a good QB for us. I could be wrong, who knows?
 
I'm not blaming Warde for starting Boyle. I said it wasn't Pasqualoni but Weist who made the decision. Likely as newly named coach he did it in consultation with Warde. It was a bad decision.
 
On the other hand, it is documented that he didn't. So there's that.
 
Those of you dismissing Anderson because of his pedigree make me scratch my head. If he is the best we have, he should play. I don't care where he is from or whether or not he was a JUCO back up last year. Reports are that he was behind a running QB with better wheels than Anderson. That does not mean he is terrible. I could mean he fit his JUCO head coach's scheme better. Perhaps he has the right combination of arm/legs/head for Verducci/Diaco.

Perhaps this guy is our Phil Simms. The Giants fan base threw a hissy fit when they drafted him and did not cut him much slack in the beginning because he did not come from a big name program. He became a Giant icon once he proved himself on the field. Let's see Anderson play first before we dismiss him.
 
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uconnphil2016 said:
I don't care who starts, I just hope we aren't alternating quarterbacks every possession this year. I couldn't stand that.
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Agreed, nothing worse trying to play without making a mistake...Every time Boyle got in the game, he was back on the bench the next series...not easy to get in a rhythm or build the confidence of a 20 year old kid.
 
A QB merry-go-round is the worse thing for us... That position needs to have the most stability on offense, and maybe even the entire team.. Hopefully we get there, finally...
 
You need one clear guy to step up. Based on recent performances he doesn't need to be a world beater to separate himself. That's why if it's not obvious who the number one is, then it's a problem.

I'm starting to wonder if we aren't taking enough shots at better guys. Surely there is a top 50% D1 QB recruit that would rather play right away than sit for 2 years or not see the field at all.

Or are we just that bad at developing the position. This is not a recent oline issue this goes back through the history of the program. PP/GDL, I know, blah, blah, blah.

I hope BD and co, can find there guy and do well enough to stay around to develop him. When you see places like Akron and Central Michigan find serviceable QB's, it makes you scratch your head.
 
huskymedic said:
Aren't ya kinda contradicting yourself here by so quickly writing Anderson off? It's not like BS has a full season of meaningful snaps for NCST before he was supplanted.
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I don't see the contradiction. BS has been part of this program for over a year now. Anderson likely just got here. And yes, I see a difference btw being the #2 at NCSt as a true frosh and being the #2 at Laney.
 
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The bottom line is that when we've had average D1 quarterback play we have been at least ok. Even slightly below average...but except for 3 games at the end of 2013 it has been a while since we've had average play from the position. Or even slightly below average.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Go root for your hometown Pop Warner team if that's how you really feel. This is big time college football. Are we not allowed to talk reality and what we've all seen with our own eyes? I don't think many (save maybe a couple) have gone out of their way to knock Boyle hard. And those that have. . . . . .doesn't really bother me. I like Boyle. He's a good kid and has endured a lot here. He's been mismanaged by 3 head coaches in his 2 years here. That being said, he's shown nothing on the field that gives me any reason to believe that he will be a good QB for us. I could be wrong, who knows?
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I can't disagree with the eyeball test either. I didn't like Boyle's command of the team last year but a lot can happen maturity wise in a year. He may have been missmanged but Tim's game experience, however negative will be valuable going forward. I spent some time with Tim at the Barbeque and he had a certain look in his eyes that told me he wanted the job and embraced the challenge. Don't get me wrong, I know the value of a true dual threat (Addazio didn't factor Boyle into his plans either) and if Sheriff's can deliver both a strong arm and mobility then I say YES!! My whole point is I don't think that Boyle is going to make it a cake walk for Sheriffs. QB controvercy or not, coaches love healthy competition. It makes everyone better in the long run. I remember a conversation I had with Shane Day several years ago and he told me that Boyle may have one of the best arms in the country. If the line improves ALOT, that will help everyone, particularly Tim Boyle. Given time he could be much more effective than in the past. I too could be wrong but I suspect, Tim Boyle will be a factor in the 2015 season.
 
Confident Carl said:
I can't disagree with the eyeball test either. I didn't like Boyle's command of the team last year but a lot can happen maturity wise in a year. He may have been missmanged but Tim's game experience, however negative will be valuable going forward. I spent some time with Tim at the Barbeque and he had a certain look in his eyes that told me he wanted the job and embraced the challenge. Don't get me wrong, I know the value of a true dual threat (Addazio didn't factor Boyle into his plans either) and if Sheriff's can deliver both a strong arm and mobility then I say YES!! My whole point is I don't think that Boyle is going to make it a cake walk for Sheriffs. QB controvercy or not, coaches love healthy competition. It makes everyone better in the long run. I remember a conversation I had with Shane Day several years ago and he told me that Boyle may have one of the best arms in the country. If the line improves ALOT, that will help everyone, particularly Tim Boyle. Given time he could be much more effective than in the past. I too could be wrong but I suspect, Tim Boyle will be a factor in the 2015 season.
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A conversation you had at a season ticket holders' barbeque in no way translates to on-field performance. Nobody can accuse him of a lack of effort over the past two years, and I'm sure he wants to succeed with every fiber of his being, but he has shown absolutely nothing that makes me confident in him playing quarterback for this team.
 
Stairmaster said:
A conversation you had at a season ticket holders' barbeque in no way translates to on-field performance. Nobody can accuse him of a lack of effort over the past two years, and I'm sure he wants to succeed with every fiber of his being, but he has shown absolutely nothing that makes me confident in him playing quarterback for this team.
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Me neither but it's amazing how boys do grow into men. Sometimes sooner than later. I like the fact that we seem to be starting the season with three capable quarterbacks. Let's see what transpires. Got my tickets today!
 
Confident Carl said:
Me neither but it's amazing how boys do grow into men. Sometimes sooner than later. I like the fact that we seem to be starting the season with three capable quarterbacks. Let's see what transpires. Got my tickets today!
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Are you critical of anyone? :)
 
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Confident Carl said:
Me neither but it's amazing how boys do grow into men. Sometimes sooner than later. I like the fact that we seem to be starting the season with three capable quarterbacks. Let's see what transpires. Got my tickets today!
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I'd sign to have one competent QB on the roster right now. To say we have 3 capable, well, I admire your optimism.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
I'd sign to have one competent QB on the roster right now. To say we have 3 capable, well, I admire your optimism.
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I am hoping we have 3 capable quarterbacks, Sherriffs, Boyle and Anderson with Tyler Davis and Brandon Bisak in development mode. My assessment is based on the following info.

Below is the best written material in chronological order that I think we have on QB situation to date. Sherriffs appears to be the leader in the clubhouse according to Diaco. He also states that Boyle is pushing hard (which is what I eluded to, for the #1 spot. It appears that Garrett Anderson is highly regarded but unproven accept for his JC record.

New Haven Register 4/10/2015
The No. 1 question heading into spring camp was who was going to be the starting quarterback. If Diaco knows the answer to that, he’s keeping it to himself. Bryant Shirreffs, who sat out last season after transferring from North Carolina State, has been working with the first team during the 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills the media was allowed to watch. Tim Boyle, who started the last three games of 2014, is the only quarterback on the roster to have taken a snap for the Huskies. According to Diaco, Boyle is pushing hard for the starting spot. True freshman Tyler Davis has also been seeing time during spring drills.

“All the quarterbacks look great,” senior tight end Sean McQuillan said earlier in spring camp. “Bryant is working really hard, Tim is working hard; Tyler, it’s a little foreign to him coming out of high school but he’s doing great. The big thing from them is taking control and making it theirs. When they step into the huddle it has to be their huddle and all of those guys are doing a great job of that and establishing themselves.”

SNY 3/4/2015

What that pecking order will be remains an even battle right now. Boyle, a junior, has had several opportunities to grab the starting job over the previous two years and has been unable to do so. Boyle pass for 355 yards, completing 52.4 percent of passes, with one touchdown and three interceptions.

The talented thrower from Middletown has never got going at UConn in two years that didn’t go according to play. Boyle’s goal each of the his previous two seasons was to gain a redshirt year. He was always pushed into action and has looked overwhelmed. He has completed 47.4 percent of passes for 956 yards and 1 TD to go against 11 interceptions. This is Boyle’s second spring practice at UConn and while he is the most veteran of QBs, remains a young player in snaps and age.

Shirreffs comes as a transfer from N.C. State and Diaco described him as a linebacker playing quarterback. His speed and agility are superior to Boyle and he has a good enough arm to play the position. He’s stronger, faster, but doesn’t have quite the throwing ability of Boyle.

“Physically, they are different, they move different,” Diaco said of Shirreffs and Boyle. “Bryant is a quicker and faster player. He’s overall core strength and body strength. He’s a stronger overall player body-wise than the other twp. He’s a faster player in term of leg and running speed…

“Tim has a stronger arm in terms of velocity, rotation, down the field length. There’s a strength right there in Tim’s corner. Tim’s taller from a vision standpoint. I am excited to see what decisions they both make moving forward.”

UCONN Blog 4/12/2015

UConn Football: Quarterback battle has a leader, competition will continue...
Bob Diaco has declared a leader in the quarterback race. But two new players will join the roster in June and the competition will continue into fall camp.

Diaco maintained Shirreff's hold on the lead after the game, ahead of Tim Boyle, with freshmanTyler Davis in third.

Shirreffs has a decent arm, but has gained separation from the pack thanks to his ability to extend plays with his legs. The NC State transfer looked rusty at the start of yesterday's action, and understandably so, but ultimately Diaco was pleased with his performance, "(early on) you could see he hadn't played on an actual football field in a stadium for a few years. After maybe five minutes, six minutes in he seemed to settle into some form."

Even though Shirreffs missed on a couple of his throws and had a few passes batted down at the line, he remains the leading candidate for the starting quarterback job. Diaco seems to favor a quarterback who can run and it shows with the players he has brought in thus far, including Shirreffs, freshman Tyler Davis, and two new faces who will join the team in June.

Both newcomers, one a junior college transfer (Anderson) and the other a preferred walk-on, (Bisak) will be in the fold according to Diaco, who repeatedly insists these two are not just "camp arms" brought in to take practice reps.

Garrett Anderson, a quarterback from Laney Junior College in Oakland, California is the most likely of the two new guys to be a factor in this competition. Standing at 6-foot-2, 225 pounds, Anderson will be eligible to play right away. He also had an offer from Houston, and was scheduled to visit Colorado State, but cancelled the trip and committed to UConn after visiting the first spring practice.

Anderson, who runs a 4.6 40-yard dash according to Hudl, can make plays with his feet. At the beginning of his highlight reel, you see him evade the rush, roll to his left, and whip the ball 35 yards downfield to an open receiver. You see more of the same across the rest of tape. He earned the starting job as a freshman at Laney, but actually lost it in his sophomore year to UNLV-bound Kurt Palendech.

While Garrett Anderson could make a splash in the competition, I believe Tim Boyle has the best chance of supplanting Shirreffs from the top spot. Diaco mentioned that Boyle had nagging issues in two key areas which affected his lower-body mechanics last year but is now fully healthy. It really showed in Boyle's performance yesterday, with Diaco describing his improvement as "profound."

"[Boyle] played well, he's getting better," Diaco said after the spring game, "If you go back and watch a few tapes of it, you'll see a little bit more bend in his ankles and knees and waist because he feels better. So he's finally healthy for the first time. His drops are so much cleaner. His balance and weight distribution when he throws is so much better."

Even though Boyle doesn't fully fit the mold for the type of quarterback Diaco prefers, the junior still has room to grow and the opportunity to capitalize on the potential of his strong arm and ideal frame. This is his first chance to experience continuity in the coaching staff and he also still needs time to wash off the post-traumatic stress of being thrown into the fire as a freshman behind a wet paper bag o-line.
 
Anderson, who runs a 4.6 40-yard dash according to Hudl, can make plays with his feet.
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At the beginning of his highlight reel, you see him evade the rush, roll to his left, and whip the ball 35 yards downfield to an open receiver. You see more of the same across the rest of tape. He earned the starting job as a freshman at Laney, but actually lost it in his sophomore year to UNLV-bound Kurt Palendech.
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Highlight reels are great for showing you what a player has done or could do with the proper support. Not necessarily consistently though because those other plays don't make it onto the highlight reel. I like Anderson's highlights very much, but none of our recent QB's has had the opportunity to develop into what they could be because of poor blocking and poor management from coaches. I think Casey and Weist were getting something started but even he was severely handcuffed by a lack of time to go through progressions. And rotating guys in and out, well you know how I feel about that. And even if he is successful evading the rush a good percentage eventually that will catch up with him if he's always on the run.
 
Discos. Moments were cow speak. If you watched the spring game it was pretty clear that whatever the future it is Not Tim Boyle. This year they'll try Sherreffs. Davis though is the future. You could see the raw talent and leadership. He just needs some experience.
 
I understand that people hate rotating QB's, and mismanaging them, and all of the insane systems we've attempted to use to get competent play at QB.

But let's just put ourselves in a hypothetical situation. You choose a QB who looks pretty good in practice. I mean, they all look bad, but this one looks less bad. So you play this guy, and he sucks. Oh god he sucks so bad. You're pretty sure he's going to die out there. A couple of games go by, and you're pretty sure this kid has irreparable brain damage. So you try the kid who looked slightly worse, but hey, maybe he's got a shot. Oh god he's even worse. How is that possible? Well now what? You gonna put that first guy back in there, or someone else entirely? The fans hate you for mismanaging the players, but as far as you can tell, none of these kids have ever even seen a football before they came to practice.

Welcome to UConn Football.
 
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Irish Loop said:
I understand that people hate rotating QB's, and mismanaging them, and all of the insane systems we've attempted to use to get competent play at QB.

But let's just put ourselves in a hypothetical situation. You choose a QB who looks pretty good in practice. I mean, they all look bad, but this one looks less bad. So you play this guy, and he sucks. Oh god he sucks so bad. You're pretty sure he's going to die out there. A couple of games go by, and you're pretty sure this kid has irreparable brain damage. So you try the kid who looked slightly worse, but hey, maybe he's got a shot. Oh god he's even worse. How is that possible? Well now what? You gonna put that first guy back in there, or someone else entirely? The fans hate you for mismanaging the players, but as far as you can tell, none of these kids have ever even seen a football before they came to practice.

Welcome to UConn Football.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
 
Justin M said:
Too late to RS Boyle as well?
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I don't see current depth chart allowing for it. At this point, getting snaps since his FR year, he would probably see this as a negative and a step backward IMO.
 
Stairmaster said:
A conversation you had at a season ticket holders' barbeque in no way translates to on-field performance. Nobody can accuse him of a lack of effort over the past two years, and I'm sure he wants to succeed with every fiber of his being, but he has shown absolutely nothing that makes me confident in him playing quarterback for this team.
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I make a decent living in my profession which involves assessing body language and demeanor. Unfortunately everyone (including me) is texting these days. You may be surprised but pressing the flesh and making eye contact can reveal a lot about a person. When I had my encounter with Tim Boyle, I saw and discerned a very confident and committed individual. I always knew he had the physical tools but felt he lacked swagger and confidence. I saw some of that when I was with him. I know that Diaco is seeing the same things. I am not naming Boyle the starter however (Sheriffs is the leader as of now) I am saying to keep an eye out for him. I maintain that he will be an important player in 2015. I agree he hasn't shown us much yet. Time will tell. Maturity is something you don't get from a playbook.
 
I'm of the opinion that the lack of a true #1 has been a contributor to our horrible offense for the past 5 years. You just can't play 3 or 4 guys back there and expect to have any consistency. Diaco needs to grow a pair, and name a guy as #1 and let him develop chemistry with the line the receiver and the backs. Never mind that somebody might do one thing better. Who is best overall? That's our guy. And if Sherreffs drives the team to the 15 and it's a passing situation, let him pass. Don't bring in Boyle because he is a better passer. No key backups. No quarterback for a series. Just the guy.
 
freescooter said:
I'm of the opinion that the lack of a true #1 has been a contributor to our horrible offense for the past 5 years. You just can't play 3 or 4 guys back there and expect to have any consistency. Diaco needs to grow a pair, and name a guy as #1 and let him develop chemistry with the line the receiver and the backs. Never mind that somebody might do one thing better. Who is best overall? That's our guy. And if Sherreffs drives the team to the 15 and it's a passing situation, let him pass. Don't bring in Boyle because he is a better passer. No key backups. No quarterback for a series. Just the guy.
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I truly hope NC State missed it on Bryant but the reason he's at UCONN is NC State was going to move him to Fullback or Linebacker. On one hand that is okay because I like having a tough hard nose leader and Diaco says he can chuck it so I'm cool with that but on the other hand Boyle has the Better arm and from what Diaco says is healthy and gotten a lot better this year. Time will tell. Heck, Ohio State won the National Championship with their third string QB! Maybe Garrett Anderson will be the guy after all!

http://www.scout.com/college/north-carolina-state/story/1318838-position-change-for-shirreffs
 
UConn had a No. 1 in 2011 (Well, not really a #1, but he was the starter and played the vast majority of the offensive snaps as if he were a #1). His name was Johnny McEntee.

UConn had a starter in 2012 His name was Chandler Whitmer.

In 2013, Casey Cochran emerged as a starter and he was on his way (I feel) from emerging from the platoon in 2014.

What's the point? A starting QB does not a good offense make if that QB is not very good to begin with or has significant outside influences, such as a deficient offensive line and/or butter fingered running game.
 
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