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Message: [QUOTE="UConnDan97, post: 2234866, member: 2305"] Uggh. This is like daycare. Here are the teams and years that the players had played within Brazil professionally up to 2002 (I won't count years after 2002): Marcos - Palmeiras, (10 years) Lucio - Internacional, (3 years) Edmilson - Sao Paulo, (6 years) Roque Jr. - Palmeiras, (5 years) Cafu - Sao Paulo (4 years) and Palmeiras (2 years) Gilberto Silva - America Mineiro / Atletico Mineiro (5 years) Kleberson - Paranaense (3 years) Roberto Carlos - Sao Joao / Pameiras (4 years) Ronaldinho - Gremio (3 years) Rivaldo - Santa Cruz (Br.) / Mogi Mirim / Corinthians / Pameiras (5 years) Ronaldo - Cruzeiro (1 year) Juninho - Sao Paulo / Vasco da Gama (4 years) Denilson - Sao Paulo (4 years) With the exception Ronaldo, they all spent multiple years in the Brazilian first division. Whatever. You can believe what you want at this point. I'll try to stick with what we agree on. What I think we agree on: 1) There absolutely should be a promotion / relegation system in our soccer league, and I think that it is detrimental to us that we don't have one. That is driven by owners primarily, who don't want any risk attached to their multi-million dollar investments. 2) I think the salary cap is silly and I think that the "designated player" concept is ridiculous. I would rather have 2 or 3 extremely strong soccer teams than the glut of mediocrity that we currently have. 3) I also agree that we should take the CONCACAF Champions League more seriously, since I think it helps to convince quality Latin American players to play here instead of LigaMX. 4) I also think that there should be one table, not two divisions. You play every team twice. Top teams to to CONCACAF Champions League. Bottom teams go to the second division (see #1). 5) I think expansion needs to stop at this point. Too many teams equals a watered down product. 6) I would not allow soccer fields that don't conform to normal dimensions and standards just so that I can play in an already made arena (i.e. NYCFC in Yankee Stadium). It's like watching people play pickup at the park. It's silly. Do I think MLS is great? No I don't. There's actually a hell of a lot of things that I would fix in it if I were running it. But that doesn't mean that I think the league is unimportant. I think it needs to be fixed so that the USA can ultimately succeed on the world stage... [/QUOTE]

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