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[August_West]

We are getting closer to the season, thank JC, and I just want to remind everyone here of something since we are only 2 months and change away from the matchup.


University of Connecticut has 5 National Championships
University of Kansas has 4.

No matter what happens on 12/1, that will be the fact before and after the game.

Also can we take a minute to recognize how dumb people from Kansas are? The School is actually named "University of Kansas" yet they go by the moniker "KU" Why? Isnt that backwards? Is it because they are not even big enough boys to take "UK" from University of Kentucky?

Pretty beta school if truth be told.

 

[OkaForPrez]

Every school in the blue blood conversation as their own self serving criteria that favors their performance over the years, but the KU fanbase has woken up as public enemy number one on this topic. Maybe its because Duke, UK and UNC are all coming off relatively down years. Maybe its because of the UConn to the big 12 talk, but man are they ornery.

You don't even have to be engaged in the "blue blood" conversation. You can just be in the general vicinity of a Kansas fan and talking about something UConn accomplished recently and they will counter with "UConn is not a blue blood" and go into their thesis.

I'd still take the company of a Kansas fan over Kentucky and Duke fans, they are far more basketball educated IMO, but boy are they climbing the annoying charts.

No offense to any of our very fine Kansas fan house guests or alumni.

 

[August_West]

'd still take the company of a Kansas fan over Kentucky and Duke fans, they are far more basketball educated IMO, but boy are they climbing the annoying charts.

They are losing their minds.

 

[ctchamps]

Every school in the blue blood conversation as their own self serving criteria that favors their performance over the years, but the KU fanbase has woken up as public enemy number one on this topic. Maybe its because Duke, UK and UNC are all coming off relatively down years. Maybe its because of the UConn to the big 12 talk, but man are they ornery.

You don't even have to be engaged in the "blue blood" conversation. You can just be in the general vicinity of a Kansas fan and talking about something UConn accomplished recently and they will counter with "UConn is not a blue blood" and go into their thesis.

I'd still take the company of a Kansas fan over Kentucky and Duke fans, they are far more basketball educated IMO, but boy are they climbing the annoying charts.

No offense to any of our very fine Kansas fan house guests or alumni.

Things were fine when we both had four NC’s. The fan bases of both schools were content being smug.

But leaving them behind turned us into a spoiled and arrogant fan base and is turning them into whiny “batches”.

Anyone else notice a change in @HuskyHawk?

He’s fine when it’s UConn vs. Providence or Duke or UK. He’s very spoiled and arrogant. But conversations involving UConn vs. KU turn him into a whiny “batch”!

 

[CTBasketball]

Wasn’t there some sort of gentleman’s wager between @August_West and @HuskyHawk?

 

[HuskyHawk]

They are losing their minds.

Things were fine when we both had four NC’s. The fan bases of both schools were content being smug.

But leaving them behind turned us into a spoiled and arrogant fan base and is turning them into whiny “batches”.

Anyone else notice a change in @HuskyHawk?

He’s fine when it’s UConn vs. Providence or Duke or UK. He’s very spoiled and arrogant. But conversations involving UConn vs. KU turn him into a whiny “batch”!

It's kind of the opposite. They take no notice of UConn really, and that causes some of us to lose our minds. But in most cases you're dealing with the KU equivalent of our own UConn Twitter idiots. Mostly just trolling and trying to aggro another fanbase in any way they can. Nothing bothers a UConn fan quite like being ignored or disregarded. It's our Kryptonite.

I haven't changed. My priorities this year are 1. UConn #6 2. Kansas #5. My desire for 1. won't stop me for rooting for 2. if UConn is knocked out. Next year, it will be the same.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Wasn’t there some sort of gentleman’s wager between @August_West and @HuskyHawk?

About what? Arby's? Scotch? Cover bands?

The reality is that we never normally see any conflict between the two schools. Both hate Duke. But now, we get a game at AFH in December and we're competing for the #1 recruit. So it gets a bit more salty than usual.

 

[EZPass]

*Source=Beyond the Phog: Untold Stories from Kansas Basketball's Most Dominant Decade

 

[August_West]

It's kind of the opposite. They take no notice of UConn really,

That’s not true at all. Not this summer. Kansas fans melting all over Twitter and Reddit. Any UConn fans on those platforms will tell you the same.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

We are getting closer to the season, thank JC, and I just want to remind everyone here of something since we are only 2 months and change away from the matchup.


University of Connecticut has 5 National Championships
University of Kansas has 4.

No matter what happens on 12/1, that will be the fact before and after the game.

Also can we take a minute to recognize how dumb people from Kansas are? The School is actually named "University of Kansas" yet they go by the moniker "KU" Why? Isnt that backwards? Is it because they are not even big enough boys to take "UK" from University of Kentucky?

Pretty beta school if truth be told.

If we're being mathematically correct, it's actually 5 vs. 3.66667.

KU's 1952 title came in a field of 16 teams. They only had to win 4 games vs. the contemporary gauntlet of 6.

It's important to keep in mind, because it makes them that much more beta.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

University of Connecticut has 5 National Championships
University of Kansas has 4.

If we're being mathematically correct, it's actually 5 vs. 3.66667.

KU's 1952 title came in a field of 16 teams. They only had to win 4 games vs. the contemporary gauntlet of 6.

It's important to keep in mind, because it makes them that much more beta.

Counting 1952 is really an olive branch to KU. Although I'm sure they looked impressive beating 17-12 Santa Clara in the Final Four

 

[August_West]

Wasn’t there some sort of gentleman’s wager between @August_West and @HuskyHawk?

No wager. I just wanted to go to game with him. He declined.

 

[HuskyHawk]

No wager. I just wanted to go to game with him. He declined.

I didn't decline. I don't have tickets. If I'm there and you're there, beer is on me. Will gladly show you and others around Lawrence too if I can make it out.

 

[August_West]

Counting 1952 is really an olive branch to KU. Although I'm sure they looked impressive beating 17-12 Santa Clara in the Final Four

They lucked into a title!

 

[John]

Counting 1952 is really an olive branch to KU. Although I'm sure they looked impressive beating 17-12 Santa Clara in the Final Four

They cut down the peach baskets.

 

[EZPass]

They cut down the peach baskets.

 

[OkaForPrez]

If we're being mathematically correct, it's actually 5 vs. 3.66667.

KU's 1952 title came in a field of 16 teams. They only had to win 4 games vs. the contemporary gauntlet of 6.

It's important to keep in mind, because it makes them that much more beta.

Forget the 16 team aspect or the fact that teams were just starting to integrate in the late 40s and early 50s. (KU's '52 team was the first to include a person of color), anything pre shot clock pre 3 point line might as well have been a different game.

USE OF SHOT CLOCK IS GROWING (Published 1982)

www.nytimes.com

On March 7, amid the boos of the crowd in Greensboro Coliseum, North Carolina, ranked No.1 in the nation, held the ball without taking a shot for 7 minutes 6 seconds to protect a 1-point lead against the No.3 team, Virginia. That spectacle was the nationally televised Atlantic Coast Conference championship game that North Carolina won, 47-45.

As I said in my earlier post, fans of these programs cling to this era because its a club nobody else can ever join by their criteria and so they cherish that it makes them "special." If Bill self left KU tomorrow for health reasons and they whiff on the next two hires and go into 2 decades of losing they will still be crowing about it. It's a fools errand to argue with them.

I'm not trading the feeling I had in Houston last year, or in Dallas 9 years ago, or Houston again 12 years ago. Or at Carriage House in '04 or Hugging my dad in '99 in the living room of the house i grew up in. 5 core memories for a 41 year old who can recall each moment in precise detail. They can have a few microfiche'd articles.

 

[August_West]

And then the other argument from them is "......muh!!!! consistency, we won the conference title x number of years in a row, and we made NCAA tourney x number of years in a row........." Im not going to lie, they are both impressive feats. But in the end doesn't that just indicate that you have gagged a million times when the lights are the brightest?

 

[OkaForPrez]

And then the other argument from them is "......muh!!!! consistency, we won the conference title x number of years in a row, and we made NCAA tourney x number of years in a row........." Im not going to lie, they are both impressive feats. But in the end doesn't that just indicate that you have gagged a million times when the lights are the brightest?

Yea I did the math on that one too, for all their regular season titles they've only made the sweet 16 5 more times than us over 32 years. They feasted on a soft Big12 in the '90s and 00's while we were playing in the premier CBB conf in the land.

 

[HuskyHawk]

And then the other argument from them is "......muh!!!! consistency, we won the conference title x number of years in a row, and we made NCAA tourney x number of years in a row........." but doesn't that just indicate that you have gagged a million times when the lights are the brightest?

Nah. That's the one where we disagree. Really gagging is missing the tournament altogether. As a fan, that's the worst feeling. No program has had the level of success UConn has at winning it all as a % of how often we get in. But that's only part of the story, getting in is the other part. Not missing the tournament since before some on this board were born is indeed an achievement.

Yea I did the math on that one too, for all their regular season titles they've only made the sweet 16 5 more times than us over 32 years. They feasted on a soft Big12 in the '90s and 00's while we were playing in the premier CBB conf in the land.

Yet they still had that sweet 16 run for the fans more than we did. As a fan, I'd prefer that. Wouldn't you? Big 12/8 was very good in the 90s. Mizzou and Oklahoma State were both very strong then. But Big East was tops in that era.

 

[August_West]

Nah. That's the one where we disagree. Really gagging is missing the tournament altogether.

Missing tourney sucks. No doubt. But heading into tourney as one of the top 8 seeds in the tourney and consistently missing the mark is a sign of a culture of institutional choking.

 

[CL82]

Nothing bothers a UConn fan quite like being ignored or disregarded. It's our Kryptonite.

Yeah gonna disagree on that. That's more a Rutgers thing. The Connecticut fan default is quiet confidence. That's where the "arrogant" tag comes from. People can throw any shade they want at our program and we can smile and shrug knowing that we are not only five time national champions, but five times national champions in the last 25 years. That is staggering and it breeds confidence that, apparently, is threatening to fans of lesser programs.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

Forget the 16 team aspect or the fact that teams were just starting to integrate in the late 40s and early 50s. (KU's '52 team was the first to include a person of color), anything pre shot clock pre 3 point line might as well have been a different game.

USE OF SHOT CLOCK IS GROWING (Published 1982)

www.nytimes.com

As I said in my earlier post, fans of these programs cling to this era because its a club nobody else can ever join by their criteria and so they cherish that it makes them "special." If Bill self left KU tomorrow for health reasons and they whiff on the next two hires and go into 2 decades of losing they will still be crowing about it. It's a fools errand to argue with them.

I'm not trading the feeling I had in Houston last year, or in Dallas 9 years ago, or Houston again 12 years ago. Or at Carriage House in '04 or Hugging my dad in '99 in the living room of the house i grew up in. 5 core memories for a 41 year old who can recall each moment in precise detail. They can have a few microfiche'd articles.

 

[August_West]

Yea I did the math on that one too, for all their regular season titles they've only made the sweet 16 5 more times than us over 32 years. They feasted on a soft Big12 in the '90s and 00's while we were playing in the premier CBB conf in the land.

so lets get this straight, they are only one behind us because they cut down the peach baskets in a 1952 16 team tournament and then were handed a title in a point shaving scandal in 2008? So they have 2 titles really.

Talk about lucky, Kansas counts 2008 as a title when CDR and Rose miss every FT possible in last 90 seconds of game, but @HuskyHawk calls UConn titles lucky?

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

It's kind of the opposite. They take no notice of UConn really, and that causes some of us to lose our minds. But in most cases you're dealing with the KU equivalent of our own UConn Twitter idiots. Mostly just trolling and trying to aggro another fanbase in any way they can. Nothing bothers a UConn fan quite like being ignored or disregarded. It's our Kryptonite.

I haven't changed. My priorities this year are 1. UConn #6 2. Kansas #5. My desire for 1. won't stop me for rooting for 2. if UConn is knocked out. Next year, it will be the same.

Filthy traitorous bastard!

 

[superjohn]

And then the other argument from them is "......muh!!!! consistency, we won the conference title x number of years in a row, and we made NCAA tourney x number of years in a row........." Im not going to lie, they are both impressive feats. But in the end doesn't that just indicate that you have gagged a million times when the lights are the brightest?

They also have the biggest homecourt advantage in sports. It's always 8 on 5 playing at Allen Fieldhouse, even one of my Kansas friends is embarrassed by the home whistle they get. It's why I'm already penciling in a loss for us and one of the reasons I was hesitant about UConn going to the Big 12.

 

[HuskyHawk]

so lets get this straight, they are only one behind us because they cut down the peach baskets in a 1952 tournament and then were handed a title in a point shaving scandal in 2008? So they have 2 titles really.

Talk about lucky, Kansas counts 2008 as a title when CDR and Rose miss every FT possible in last 90 seconds of game, but @HuskyHawk calls UConn titles lucky?

I think 2014 was lucky. But honestly, every national title involves some luck along the way. I fully expected us to win it last year. And in 1999 and 2004. 2011 knew we had a chance. 2014, that was a miracle. Not sure what this manufactured controversy is, aside from you doing the voodoo that you do so well. You going to the game in December? I checked and Angel Du$t is playing at the Bottleneck on the 2nd.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yeah gonna disagree on that. That's more a Rutgers thing. The Connecticut fan default is quiet confidence. That's where the "arrogant" tag comes from. People can throw any shade they want at our program and we can smile and shrug knowing that we are not only five time national champions, but five times national champions in the last 25 years. That is staggering and it breeds confidence that, apparently, is threatening to fans of lesser programs.

You're on the CR board enough to know this isn't true. Fortunately, the UConn response to it is "just win baby". And that's the right answer.

 

[superjohn]

Nah. That's the one where we disagree. Really gagging is missing the tournament altogether. As a fan, that's the worst feeling. No program has had the level of success UConn has at winning it all as a % of how often we get in. But that's only part of the story, getting in is the other part. Not missing the tournament since before some on this board were born is indeed an achievement.

Yet they still had that sweet 16 run for the fans more than we did. As a fan, I'd prefer that. Wouldn't you? Big 12/8 was very good in the 90s. Mizzou and Oklahoma State were both very strong then. But Big East was tops in that era.

I prefer 5 national championships in 23 tournaments for UConn to 2 for Kansas.

 

[OkaForPrez]

Nah. That's the one where we disagree. Really gagging is missing the tournament altogether. As a fan, that's the worst feeling. No program has had the level of success UConn has at winning it all as a % of how often we get in. But that's only part of the story, getting in is the other part. Not missing the tournament since before some on this board were born is indeed an achievement.

Yet they still had that sweet 16 run for the fans more than we did. As a fan, I'd prefer that. Wouldn't you? Big 12/8 was very good in the 90s. Mizzou and Oklahoma State were both very strong then. But Big East was tops in that era.

For sure those "Count" It's just been painted that there is this gigantic gap between UConn ( who Kansas fans define as the epitome of feast or famine) and Kansas as the epitome of consistency.

For all those mental gymnastics, it comes down to this - in a 6 year cycle - UConn goes to the sweet 16 3 times and one of those 3 wins it all once. Kansas goes to the sweet 16 4 times and wins it all once every two cycles.

That's the difference in 32 years.

So yes, while that extra sweet 16 does matter, if that's the razor's edge between most consistent program of the last 30 years and feast or famine then yes, sign me up for feast and famine. There's no asterisk to be found on UConn's success.

One edit to add - I don't think it feels any better to be a 1 seed sniped by a 8/9 then it does to miss the tourney all together. If anything, its been a joy watching UConn's young teams develop into champions instead of reloading with Mc'D's who choked when the lights came on.