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Proposed $24 million in repairs, upgrades at Rentschler Field comes as UConn football reaches agreement to extend playing at East Hartford stadium

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Again, from what I’ve heard it isn’t so much that UConn is getting the wool pulled over eyes as the university is obligated to hold events at state owned venues for which the states quasipublic agency charges an egregiously above market rate.

As I’ve noted here often, the only thing that the state paying UConn to overpay the CDRA does is move part of the CDRA loss to the athletic department. That seems inherently disingenuous and designed to hide the ineptitude of the CDRA. If you eliminate the CDRA there’s less overhead, so less of a loss. Let UConn play there for free and keep the profits. The expenses all stay the same but instead of moving, lost to the University, you will have the university to earn money off its games.
Yes I understand that the CDRA is a joke of an organization. I agree with you.

If UConn doesn’t like dealing with their lopsided contracts they can either renegotiate towards UConn’s favor, or play elsewhere. It’s really that simple.
 
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State taxpayers spent $70m+ to build the stadium for UConn' use. Invested another $25m in capital repairs/upgrades. That's more than $100m in direct expenses for a football program.

Who do you expect to pick up the tab - CT taxpayers? Of course UConn has to pay rental and operations costs! Even with the payments made and planned by UConn, State taxpayers will have subsidised a good portion of this facility.

I'm remain stunned at the amount of people who think the State budget is an open checkbook for UConn.

You also want the state to invest in a new Civic Center, but have no way to cover the costs.

The state has many other fiscal obligations - local education, transportation infrastructure, social services, public safety, courts system, environmental and recreational facilities, other State universities and community colleges!

It's time that some of you consider what the majority of taxpayers think are priorities for state resources.
I agree, but you're fighting a losing battle making those comments here. I was called a troll by someone here for saying something similar regarding the budget deficit, and for pointing out that similar state institutions of similar size subsidize their athletics departments far less.

I also said it's unfair to keep increasing the student fees for athletics (already over 600) for a university that costs 35k/ year in-state. Same deal. Got hounded for that as well.
 
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Here is the secret to being a fan of big time college sports: Never apply logic, rationality or common sense to this enterprise because none of it makes any sense. In just about every state in the country the highest paid state employee is a football or basketball coach. Make any sense? Of course not. It is what it is and UConn did not invent it. Of course I am a taxpayer and so I dont want to state to waste money. However I am also a fan of the sport and supporter of the program so I have long ago dispensed with any pretense of objectiveness. Maintain and upgrade the stadium.
Best post here.
 

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I agree, but you're fighting a losing battle making those comments here. I was called a troll by someone here for saying something similar regarding the budget deficit, and for pointing out that similar state institutions of similar size subsidize their athletics departments far less.

I also said it's unfair to keep increasing the student fees for athletics (already over 600) for a university that costs 35k/ year in-state. Same deal. Got hounded for that as well.
hot dang, another new/er poster dropping in witha shoulder fired howitzer, excellent!
all of new youse- keep those cards, letters, and bombs coming!
it keeps the long-in-the-tooth crowd on their toes!


shoulder fired howitzer - kinda gives new meaning to the 'get off my lawn!' thing. and now that i think of it, all this throat punching is turning this place into Camp fishy.
 
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hot dang, another new/er poster dropping in witha shoulder fired howitzer, excellent!
all of new youse- keep those cards, letters, and bombs coming!
it keeps the long-in-the-tooth crowd on their toes!


shoulder fired howitzer - kinda gives new meaning to the 'get off my lawn!' thing. and now that i think of it, all this throat punching is turning this place into Camp fishy.
I do what I can...
 
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Sure, Daffy, but you need to get a clue!




I generally don't disagree with this point. CDRA itself is an example of a State poor investment. Kinda like the CT Port Authority.

That being said, Connecticut is just not a good market for major events or tenants for these type of sports facilities. Despite their CDRA incompetence, Hartford/CT is just not a market to lure a MLS team, forget about a NHL team again. Minor league franchises won't pay the bills either - regardless if it is hockey/basketball for the Civic Center or soccer/lax for the stadium.

Let's face it, Providence is a better market, or some Boston suburb like Worcester. Despite the size of the Hartford and New Haven DMA, this is not even a mid-major market like Hampton Roads or Austin. There is a real negative economic, political, and cultural reality the State of Connecticut faces that some UConn fans want to ignore.
please move.to Worcester and commute to CCSU games
 

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Yes I understand that the CDRA is a joke of an organization. I agree with you.

If UConn doesn’t like dealing with their lopsided contracts they can either renegotiate towards UConn’s favor, or play elsewhere. It’s really that simple.
Again, that isn’t an option to the University if playing at CDRA venues is mandated by the State. Your argument is analogous to people, saying if you don’t like the big lines at DMV you should register your car with someone else. It doesn’t work like that.
 

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If UConn keeps getting the wool pulled over their eyes, CDRA will keep doing it.
Painting UConn as some sort of victim is just silly. Not as silly as the guy who said "There is no state that holds its school hostage like CT", but close.
 
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The problem is also that UConn currently has nowhere else to play football and the state knows it. They can charge what they want and do as they please and realistically, UConn can't really do anything.

On the other hand, basketball can do something. If the state wants to mess around with the football team pull out of playing at the XL. If the CCSU guy wants to complain about UConn getting all the money, he can have CCSU play at the XL. I agree 100% that putting money into that place is like throwing it down the drain. Playing all games at Gampel is a win-win for the University but hurts Hartford. I'm a huge Hartford guy and would hate to see the collateral damage that pulling UConn basketball out of the XL would cause. However, if it needs to be done, then do it.
I really want to see Hartford succeed too, but at some point there needs to be something because the XL is still a dump.
 
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I agree but I don't understand why the state wouldn't put money into fixing the stadium their main tenant plays in. Want to close the athletic deficit, make the football team desirable for the ACC. You do that by having an updated stadium and good football team
I think the state isn’t convinced that the main tenant will be still be playing there 5 to 10 years down the road. That being said, the place has to be fixed anyway or they should just tear it down.
 
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I really want to see Hartford succeed too, but at some point there needs to be something because the XL is still a dump.
Do you know how many vacant buildings there are in Hartford? It’s a dump within a dump.
 

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You seem to want to make this personal. Fine. You can’t read.

First, the stadium was built with intention of making UConn the PRIMARY tenant. Not exclusive. There’s a difference. Try websters, a little handbook assembled by a nutmegger.

I’m a UD alum and donor and I’ve worked in govt there. Sending me an article about payouts its leadership took coming out of Covid is proof of ……. And/or is related to ..,,

The state govt remains highly vested in the overall success of UD.

You’re mad because you went to a 3d rate school and we’re not bright enough to get into one of the better local schools. Get over it. Many have put their lack of academic prowess behind them and made positive changes. There’s hope for you.

But either stay on point with facts or move on.
Unnecessary with the 3rd rate school BS
My father, mother, son went to UConn and received a great education. I went to SCSU for a host of reasons over UConn and would say that I am very successful and a huge UConn donor. I am quite successful with going to a “3rd rate school” and not working for government (God forbid)
You stated that UConn has given so much to the state coffers, not convinced but perhaps, yet, it is known it is a huge drain in the form of uncontrolled expenses. Theses expenses, including coaches salaries as well as UConn Health/MC salaries, are enormous. Relying on the health industry to run itself economically efficient and college sports to do the same is a death sentence. Connecticut has always run on a deficit until a certain political party is fully in charge in Washington DC and it rewards Ct with outlandish cash when a certain party here is in charge and panders to DCs whim. UConn is run by “educator/activists” not business people. Everyone on the BOD is a political appointment as well as those in the decision making among the employees. A budget, to them, is bottomless, and there is never an exact spending target/line in the sand. Things won’t change until that changes.
Everybody has their own point of view but the belittling is pure BS. It makes you sound uneducated at best.
 
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