Programming reminder: T.J. Weist...

[ibleedhuskyblue]

A good coach beats the teams he's supposed to beat. PP has not proven to be a good coach. Temple and Western Michigan have good coaches.

I will agree -- but dont forget that RE lost to BC twice in the last 2 years with a maryland team that won 10 games the year before he got there.

Good coaches don't lose to BC either.

P.S. He also lost to Pasqualoni & DeLeone. That's worse than just about anything.

 

[sportsart]

Pasqualoni gets one more year to fix the offense, get to a bowl and put the program back on track that he derailed with terrible decision making.

Hiring a new OC doesn't buy him two more seasons.

Too bad he doesn't play WMU again so he can spend the week prior preparing to stop the run because they have a good passing offense.

I don't know if people realize they did more prepping to stop the run vs WMU. Brilliant

 

[ZooCougar]

No Edsall fan. But P's team is a disorganized mess in comparison. You can see the difference just watching the sideline. We constantly have the wrong players on the field, during timeouts you don't see the orderly communication happening.

How does a team underachieve? It stops doing the little things right. Players make mistakes on the field, that is a given, but when we can't even get it right in the sideline, then the challenge is insurmountable.

That's how you lose to Temple at home because you can't even get into the end zone on your own field.

I didn't like Edsall much, but he was detailed. Pasqualoni's method isn't as thorough. And as long as he is here, we'll lose games like we have the past two seasons. The nature of this beast just isn't going to change.

 

[noeynox]

I don't know if people realize they did more prepping to stop the run vs WMU. Brilliant

Didn't know this. The two plays that absolutely killed us in this game were the int inside the five when Nick Williams didn't realize the ball was coming to him, and the sack, fumble, scoop and td run by the WMU LB. The defense did enough to knock Carder out the game and befuddle his back up. The offense simply made too many mistakes. Under P, the team has made just enough plays to lose winnable games. We will see if Weist makes a difference.

 

[johnhuskies95]

Yes, give him credit for the 4 senior bowl players and of course give PP credit for teaching Don Brown how to create a successful defense. You're kidding me right?

As for the previous poster's comment about just beating Buffalo, etc. PP had more WTF losses in 2 years than RE had in 10.

A good coach beats the teams he's supposed to beat. PP has not proven to be a good coach. Temple and Western Michigan have good coaches.

So he gets all of the blame and none of the credit? How about the Western Michigan losses the past two years where their offense lit up our defense? You seem to be blaming Pasqualoni for that. Does Don Brown not get any blame even though his defense was terrible both years?

 

[jdb50]

Agree with Zoo about he disorganization. I'm hoping coach Weist can improve things here. Maybe by simplifying things?

 

[Woof 101]

Agree with Zoo about he disorganization. I'm hoping coach Weist can improve things here. Maybe by simplifying things?

Can it get much more simple? McCoombs up the gut / McCummings never allowed to throw the ball. It has been simple for many of our opponents defenses for two years. This as ours worked their asses off. Don Brown moved on for more reasons than the ching....

 

[sportsart]

So he gets all of the blame and none of the credit? How about the Western Michigan losses the past two years where their offense lit up our defense? You seem to be blaming Pasqualoni for that. Does Don Brown not get any blame even though his defense was terrible both years?

Credit for what? For approving a week of practice that focused on the run more than the pass? You picked the wrong coach to lead the apologista charge.

Is there a worse coach than PP for halftime adjustments? No and it's not even debatable. NC St was calling out our plays on the field. No halftime changes and we lose a very winnable game.

Go argue with someone else. You bring nothing to our current discussion.

 

[jdb50]

By simplify I am refering to what seemed like confusion causing missed assignments on the O-line. Removing the McCummings in and out substitutions which didn't do justice to CW or SM. We would line up and shift and run motion and it never seemed to matter or add up to anything as we would run up the middle. Just line up, no huddle and snap the ball to put pressure on the defense. For the players to have the confidence to run an up tempo offense things would have to be less pointlessly complicated the way it was under GDL.

 

[ZooCougar]

Credit for what? For approving a week of practice that focused on the run more than the pass? You picked the wrong coach to lead the apologista charge.

Is there a worse coach than PP for halftime adjustments? No and it's not even debatable. NC St was calling out our plays on the field. No halftime changes and we lose a very winnable game.

Go argue with someone else. You bring nothing to our current discussion.

How hard is it to predict that McCombs was going to run between the tackles?

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Edsall had one D 1 QB while he was here. Didn't stop him from winning.

PP and GDL tried hammering a big square peg in a small round hole. They forgot to check their ego at the door

Edsall had Jordan Todman, Andre Dixon, and Donald Brown. I don't want to imply that having a great running back can help a team win a couple of games, but it seems at least possible.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

During the past 2 seasons of 5-7 it was pretty apparent there was zero progress.

I saw progress. We beat a top 25 team. On the road. Also, I'd prefer if you'd stop speaking for me. While I know that most BYers are in agreement, I do not consider "whatever the mob thinks" to be the de facto truth.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

How hard is it to predict that McCombs was going to run between the tackles?

About as tough as it was to predict that Todman was going to run between Hurd and Masters. So what do you suppose the difference is? I mean, it's not talent, obviously, since if the sun rises in the east, it's Pasqualoni's fault.

 

[huskysupporter]

About as tough as it was to predict that Todman was going to run between Hurd and Masters. So what do you suppose the difference is? I mean, it's not talent, obviously, since if the sun rises in the east, it's Pasqualoni's fault.

I find it odd that most posters refuse to admit there might just be a talent issue on offense. Coach P's tenure tgus far has been decidedly sub par, but there was just not alot of talent on O. Poor coaching + poor talent = no bowl.

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[noeynox]

Well the last two years we will have produced one offensive player with a legit chance at NFL. Two with Kashief, who I felt was under utilized his entire career at UConn.

I really hope the whole jaguar thing was because P felt the players behind McCombs were a big drop off. Otherwise its difficult to understand why you would rotate offensive linemen but not running backs.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

I find it odd that most posters refuse to admit there might just be a talent issue on offense. Coach P's tenure tgus far has been decidedly sub par, but there was just not alot of talent on O. Poor coaching + poor talent = no bowl.

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It's quite odd. I have no problem admitting Pasqualoni has made mistakes, but as soon as you suggest it's difficult to win games when you have some talent deficiencies, you're an "apologist."

 

[sportsart]

If we lacked talent on offense then why teach a difficult offensive blocking scheme used primarily in the NFL?

A coach can't manage time outs. A coach allows a useless wildcat to be called over and over killing drives. A coach who prepares a team to stop the run against a pass happy team.

A coaching staff who shows zero ability to make halftime adjustments. The list goes on and on. None of what I just stated has anythung to do with lack of talent on offense.

An average coach takes the talent we had and makes it work. You don't try and implement something we don't have the talent for.

We should have been bowling the last 2 years.

By the way. Beating a top 25 team on the road 1 time is not an improvement. Ever hear of anomolies? (sp). Winning those games more regularly is an improvement. Too early to tell.

Beating MAC teams at home, Temple included, would be an improvement.

 

[sportsart]

Edsall had Jordan Todman, Andre Dixon, and Donald Brown. I don't want to imply that having a great running back can help a team win a couple of games, but it seems at least possible.

I was responding to a statement about QB's. I try not to veer off topic to spin things in my favor.

McCombs is more than capable and if we had stuck with the proven power blocking that was so successfull in helping Brown, Dixon and Todman who knows. An even more successfull running game would have helped the passing game even more.

Except our QB would still be running for his life due to...wait for it..due to the fact we were using a blocking scheme that I agree we didn't have the talent for.

 

[huskymedic]

If we lacked talent on offense then why teach a difficult offensive blocking scheme used primarily in the NFL? quote]

Hate to tell ya but Cincy runs a zone blocking scheme at times so I don't imagine it will go away totally. Hopefully the line gels this year and the backs learn the cuts.

http://www.downthedrive.com/2011/9/28/2454591/Cincinnat-Bearcats-film-study-the-inside-zone

 

[sportsart]

Hate to tell ya but Cincy runs a zone blocking scheme at times so I don't imagine it will go away totally. Hopefully the line gels this year and the backs learn the cuts.

http://www.downthedrive.com/2011/9/28/2454591/Cincinnat-Bearcats-film-study-the-inside-zone

Not sure if inside/outside zone blocking run from the shotgun is the same thing. They run each 30-35 times a game.
One of the plays, in the writer's words, was basically power blocking.

If PP and GDL had just transitioned their style instead of force feeding all at once we would have been much better off.

 

[ZooCougar]

Zone blocking isn't the problem per se. The coaches that implemented it are the problem.

We're just rehashing at this point. P and D failed to implement a successful offense in their first two seasons here. It wasn't because they didn't have talent. We definitely had enough talent to beat WMU, Temple and USF. Good grief USF had the worst defense in the league. How many points did we score against them? 6?

The Athletic Director, directs the head coach to make a change at Offensive Coordinator. And the weasel doesn't have the good grace to fire the OC and remove him from the staff completely? WTF is that? Why would you burden the new guy with supervising the old Offensive Coordinator? It's absurd.

You guys concoct all these excuses for P and D and you wonder why we call you apologists?

I have zero confidence that the line will improve, because the same guy is coaching the line. Our best hope is that the new OC will implement more short passing and less seven step drops.

 

[sdhusky]

I don't think you lose to a WMU or terrible Temple

I will agree -- but dont forget that RE lost to BC twice in the last 2 years with a maryland team that won 10 games the year before he got there.

Good coaches don't lose to BC either.

P.S. He also lost to Pasqualoni & DeLeone. That's worse than just about anything.

I'm hoping that replacing Deleone as OC will lead us to at least 7-5, record and a minor bowl. If he can't accomplish that, then P has run out of time.

Edsall beat Temple one year by the smallest of margins. It took a HD TV to prove the win.

PP lost to Temple this year by an incredibly small margin (3 missed makable FG's).

 

[sdhusky]

Well the last two years we will have produced one offensive player with a legit chance at NFL. Two with Kashief, who I felt was under utilized his entire career at UConn.

I really hope the whole jaguar thing was because P felt the players behind McCombs were a big drop off. Otherwise its difficult to understand why you would rotate offensive linemen but not running backs.

Did you see Max run?

 

[sdhusky]

I was responding to a statement about QB's. I try not to veer off topic to spin things in my favor.

McCombs is more than capable and if we had stuck with the proven power blocking that was so successfull in helping Brown, Dixon and Todman who knows. An even more successfull running game would have helped the passing game even more.

Except our QB would still be running for his life due to...wait for it..due to the fact we were using a blocking scheme that I agree we didn't have the talent for.

I think we had to change our offense to move up in the world.

Edsall's schemes were extremely efficient at beating inferior teams and decent at beating similar teams. They absolutely sucked at beating top 25 type teams. And sucked at staying within 30 of top 10 type teams.

I don't mind the suffering if we get on the right track.

I get the feeling that several posters on here would be disappointed if PP went 9-4 next year because that would mean he would be still coaching.

Not me, I would be excited for year 4 and 5.

 

[huskymedic]

We're just rehashing at this point.

... understatement of the year.

You guys concoct all these excuses for P and D and you wonder why we call you apologists? quote]]

Anytime someone offers a different view or opinion than yours - they become an apologist on that topic (coaches, offense/defense, school adminstration, conference commisioners, etc)? You like to throw the word "apologist" around like it's a dirty word. Aw hell - been called worse.

 

[ZooCougar]

... understatement of the year.



Anytime someone offers a different view or opinion than yours - they become an apologist on that topic (coaches, offense/defense, school adminstration, conference commisioners, etc)? You like to throw the word "apologist" around like it's a dirty word. Aw hell - been called worse.

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That's because any POV that doesn't include the fact the coaches failed is wrong.

I just saw someone ACTUALLY say that it's ok if we had these two bad years as long as we get back on the right track. WRONG.

These two past seasons were completely unnecessary. Nobody held a gun to Pasqualoni's head to hire George DeLeone, a proven failure as the OC. Nobody held a gun to his head to demote Foley, the guy who had made our offensive line pretty much the pride of the program.

I just wish you people would be real about the gross level of mismanagement that has happened here. He was the wrong hire and he has set this program back by years.

He's already proven that he makes terrible decisions. Even if he brings in better recruits, he'll still make terrible decisions. He is what he is.

 

[huskymedic]

That's because any POV that doesn't include the fact the coaches failed is wrong.

I just saw someone ACTUALLY say that it's ok if we had these two bad years as long as we get back on the right track. WRONG.

These two past seasons were completely unnecessary. Nobody held a gun to Pasqualoni's head to hire George DeLeone, a proven failure as the OC. Nobody held a gun to his head to demote Foley, the guy who had made our offensive line pretty much the pride of the program.

I just wish you people would be real about the gross level of mismanagement that has happened here. He was the wrong hire and he has set this program back by years.

He's already proven that he makes terrible decisions. Even if he brings in better recruits, he'll still make terrible decisions. He is what he is.

Sometimes with people like you - it's just as much fun to take the other POV (kinda like the game you make it.)

I just wish "us people" could crtique your job in real life as objectively as you judge others.

 

[ZooCougar]

Sometimes with people like you - it's just as much fun to take the other POV (kinda like the game you make it.)

I just wish "us people" could crtique your job in real life as objectively as you judge others.

Well, if you were paying me 1.5 Mil a year, then that is exactly what I signed up for. It comes with the territory.

Do you think Paul Pasqualoni has been giving us 1.5 mil in value each season?

 

[huskymedic]

Well, if you were paying me 1.5 Mil a year, then that is exactly what I signed up for. It comes with the territory.

Do you think Paul Pasqualoni has been giving us 1.5 mil in value each season?

Nope... but I also don't think many coaches do.

 

[sportsart]

Sometimes with people like you - it's just as much fun to take the other POV (kinda like the game you make it.)

I just wish "us people" could crtique your job in real life as objectively as you judge others.

Usually when you support someone you have something to support. What has PP done we don't give him credit for?