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Mike: Can PP show some enthusiasm for his new hire? I know he's like Dracula, but c'mon.


Maybe you just don't see how Blue is running this program into the ground.

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If we don't run the ball better this season we will have our worst season since entering the Big East. Folks want magical play calling, but if we can't balance the offense with an effective run game the offense will look much like it did last season. Then the defense will be on the field as much as last season against a tougher schedule..........and believe me folks, we are not going to put a defense on the field as good as the one last season.

This. As bad as I think the offensive coaching was last season (and I think it was really bad), we did not, overall, have as much talent on the offensive side of the ball last year as most of our opponents.
 

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Mike: Can PP show some enthusiasm for his new hire? I know he's like Dracula, but c'mon.


Maybe you just don't see how Blue is running this program into the ground.

-sent from the looney bin via Iphone
My position on P has evolved over time - at first, thought he'd be a good choice. By last season, I thought he should be fired for his loyalty to GDL. But now that GDL is 90% out of the picture, that's not much of an issue any more. At least, we don't know it to be. This fear that P or GDL is going to override Weist somehow is just unfounded. I think Weist will make all the adjustments that GDL couldn't last year, but we shall see.

Just because P wasn't like Michael Bay in this clip... doesn't particularly concern me. We are overreacting at some pretty innocuous statements, because 5-7, because offseason. If Weist does what I think he can we'll be fine regardless.

 
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Mike: Can PP show some enthusiasm for his new hire? I know he's like Dracula, but c'mon.


Maybe you just don't see how Blue is running this program into the ground.

-sent from the looney bin via Iphone

No. He won't, because showing enthusiasm for this would to him be being disloyal to Deleone, and that is clearly not going to happen. We should assume this change was forced upon him, he is going to go with it as grudgingly as possible and that it's more likely that George's continuing influence will end P's tenure in Storrs than that P is really going to give the new guy a total green light to do whatever he wants on O.
 
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My position on P has evolved over time - at first, thought he'd be a good choice. By last season, I thought he should be fired for his loyalty to GDL. But now that GDL is 90% out of the picture, that's not much of an issue any more. At least, we don't know it to be. This fear that P or GDL is going to override Weist somehow is just unfounded. I think Weist will make all the adjustments that GDL couldn't last year, but we shall see.

Just because P wasn't like Michael Bay in this clip... doesn't particularly concern me. We are overreacting at some pretty innocuous statements, because 5-7, because offseason. If Weist does what I think he can we'll be fine regardless.



Not completely unfounded Mike. See Syracuse, 2004.
 
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I believe that personnel use hurt our running game. Specifically, the lack of a rotation at RB. And I would also expect improvement on the offensive line as we only lost one starter and he missed many games.

I agree. Don't really understand why, given McCombs ineffectiveness, Pasqualoni is so reluctant to spread our the carries.
 

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I don't know anybody would expect the terminology to change. A fade route is a fade route. A screen is a screen. If we call better plays and make better plays on the field, we'll have a better offense.

Are you under the impression that Whitmer went into the huddle last year, pointing to his receivers, saying, "Shakim? Go route. Nick? 10 yard square-in. Lyle? play dead. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LINE!!! BLOCK THE 300 POUNDER IN FRONT OF YOU!!!!

No, a play is called like this...
 

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Not completely unfounded Mike. See Syracuse, 2004.
That's fair.

All I can say is I guess we'll see how it plays out. I think the necessary fix was made, but that's no guarantee. And if we end up 5-7 again... I'll absolutely call for P's head again. I think we'll be better than that.
 
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I don't care if Weist runs the same offensive sets (save the Wildcat), what I care about is what plays he calls. That's it. I want our O Coordinator to have a gameplan, I want our O Coordinator to find and exploit defensive weaknesses, and I want our O Coordinator who can make adjustments when the defense makes adjustments.
 
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We should assume this change was forced upon him, he is going to go with it as grudgingly as possible and that it's more likely that George's continuing influence will end P's tenure in Storrs than that P is really going to give the new guy a total green light to do whatever he wants on O.

I can't imagine TJ would come here without guarantees written or otherwise that he would be able to implement his offense the way he wants to. He's got his professional reputation to worry about (unlike the two soon-to-be-retirees). I can imagine PP/GDL pretending to buy in to protect George's $272K salary but not really.

If there are issues with this awkward arrangement I hope TJ speaks up before next August.
 
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Are you under the impression that Whitmer went into the huddle last year, pointing to his receivers, saying, "Shakim? Go route. Nick? 10 yard square-in. Lyle? play dead. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LINE!!! BLOCK THE 300 POUNDER IN FRONT OF YOU!!!!

No, a play is called like this...

I got a kick out this 25. Nice one. It's frustrating isn't it? Trying to get people to understand football!! Never mind. Maybe I overstep myself there, whatever.

Deleone is a great football coach of skills and fundamentals, and he's one of the sharpest people around to be able to break down a game or practice film, or pick up tendencies of players by eye, but he's a terrible tactician.

What I'm hoping for, is that Weist, can take the pro-style concepts we've installed into this offense, and use the players we've got to come up with a foundation of offensive tactics, that we can use through the course of the season, to develop game plans, that work to accomplish the strategic goal, of scoring touchdowns, by advancing the ball regularly when we possess it on offense.

For those that care, to really learn about the game of football, and what's happening on the field, and why. Here is a link - to a playbook. Not ours. A HIGH SCHOOL OFFENSE playbook.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51168180/2007-Woodbury-Football-Playbook
 
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No. He won't, because showing enthusiasm for this would to him be being disloyal to Deleone, and that is clearly not going to happen. We should assume this change was forced upon him, he is going to go with it as grudgingly as possible and that it's more likely that George's continuing influence will end P's tenure in Storrs than that P is really going to give the new guy a total green light to do whatever he wants on O.

I don't think there are many head coaches that give "a total green light" to their offensive coordinators. From the various comments P has made about Weist, I think P has accepted the change and is happy enough with Weist. I doubt that Weist would have signed a contract with UConn without having a good handle on how much latitude he will have.
 
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You should spend a few minutes this weekend studying the show that was Syracuse Football at the end of his tenure.

In short. This movie has already been made before. Only it's the same antagonist, and he and his sidekick still have not learned their lessons.



My position on P has evolved over time - at first, thought he'd be a good choice. By last season, I thought he should be fired for his loyalty to GDL. But now that GDL is 90% out of the picture, that's not much of an issue any more. At least, we don't know it to be. This fear that P or GDL is going to override Weist somehow is just unfounded. I think Weist will make all the adjustments that GDL couldn't last year, but we shall see.

Just because P wasn't like Michael Bay in this clip... doesn't particularly concern me. We are overreacting at some pretty innocuous statements, because 5-7, because offseason. If Weist does what I think he can we'll be fine regardless.

 

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How on earth does someone even remotely infer that???

A lot of this fan base should be locked up in the looney bin. I get it, back to back 5-7s will do that. But jeez, let's give Weist a chance here. The terminology is the same so we're doomed? WTF? Just itching to overreact and rehash the same ol Coach P themes...

If you think you are going to win this crowd over with logic and reason, then you've got another thing comin', my friend!!! ;)
 
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Make no doubt about it. While the guy is the OC, the difference will be the passing game and the development thereof. This guy's expertise is just that. It may mean better play calling, it may mean better development of players, it may mean a lot of things, but we will somehow see an improved passing game.

So we have developed a decent QB and he showed me something the last four games. Phillips is good and Davis looks to be a stud. The rest have never seen one play on the field, including the TE's of which I am worried to death about.

The line should improve with one more year of experience, a healthier Bennett and some new blood pushing for playing time.
 
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If we beat Michigan and Maryland, we can lose to everyone else and the players will be forgiven.
 

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I got a kick out this 25. Nice one. It's frustrating isn't it? Trying to get people to understand football!! Never mind. Maybe I overstep myself there, whatever.

Deleone is a great football coach of skills and fundamentals, and he's one of the sharpest people around to be able to break down a game or practice film, or pick up tendencies of players by eye, but he's a terrible tactician.

What I'm hoping for, is that Weist, can take the pro-style concepts we've installed into this offense, and use the players we've got to come up with a foundation of offensive tactics, that we can use through the course of the season, to develop game plans, that work to accomplish the strategic goal, of scoring touchdowns, by advancing the ball regularly when we possess it on offense.

For those that care, to really learn about the game of football, and what's happening on the field, and why. Here is a link - to a playbook. Not ours. A HIGH SCHOOL OFFENSE playbook.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51168180/2007-Woodbury-Football-Playbook

Blah Blah Blah Mr Groundskeeper.... WTF are the Woodbury Royals? Ansonia would most assuredly clock them by 60 and have the Cochran Rule by mid 3rd qtr
 
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272K for GDL...that's the first time I thought about his salary instead of his offensive contribution and I almost puked up the shrimp and pasta that I just ate for dinner.
 
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I would like to know specifically who Weist will be communicating with upstairs during the games. Where will GDL be and what role beyond preparation and blocking assignments will he have on gameday.
 
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I believe that personnel use hurt our running game. Specifically, the lack of a rotation at RB. And I would also expect improvement on the offensive line as we only lost one starter and he missed many games.
Why does it matter which guy runs into a wall?
 
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You guys are insane if you think that two sentence answer is downplaying any offensive changes. Last time I checked the majority of the offense is back, no? Starting QB? RBs? O-line?

Weist will implement what he wants to do. Reading into the two sentences that pasqualoni said and getting your subject title is first dumb and two just looking for something bad because P is still the coach. Do us all a favor and let the team play a couple games before you start pissing on them. All of you are clowns.
 

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I could be wrong but I personally think P wants people to believe that if we do improve considerably on offense it won't be because GDL got demoted.
 
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If there are major changes in the offense we aren't going to know about them until the season starts, P doesn't give anything away to the press.

It's very hard to believe Weist is going to arrive here and not change anything, you a have to be a miserable pessimist to believe that. I'm expecting a huge improvement.
 

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I could be wrong but I personally think P wants people to believe that if we do improve considerably on offense it won't be because GDL got demoted.

It sounds like that to me. A real coach would have said that last year's offense was unacceptable.
 
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