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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 2843602, member: 153"] There are pockets of depression in the big cities, but Buffalo has had $4 billion in investments the last few years. There are cranes all over the place, new high rises, new developments, like a night and day difference between now and when I moved here 15 years ago. Rochester is nice too. These 2 cities are underrated. Architecture, food, sports, etc. I don't disagree with your assessment of Utica (though I have to say Utica is the only place to get good pizza upstate) or Syracuse, but the same does not apply for all of the cities upstate. Of course, there is huge poverty in sections of Buffalo as well even if it didn't make that list. Put it this way, your average family home in the gentrified parts of Buffalo runs you $450-850k. Compare that to Syracuse--night and day. Homes in those areas are 3x more expensive in Buffalo. And a $50k home bought in a high crime area of Buffalo in 2007 is now worth $250k. [/QUOTE]