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POSTGAME: Dawn Staley on UConn: It was the ball's fault! [merged]

I didn't see any mention in Mechelle Voepel's article about the fact that South Carolina got zero points on fast breaks last night (I think one of the announcers mentioned that they average 17?).
 
cbraarj said:
Are the balls different yes. Is it an excuse when you lose a game no. That is the dumbest excuse a coach at a Div 1 School can make! How about we couldn't stop Bueckers! She took over the game and no matter what we did she burnt us! I have played with just about every type of ball there is Mens and Womens and do they bounce different yes. Is the texture of the ball different yes. Do some feel a little heavier than others yes. Can you notice the difference when dribbling the different brands yes. So as the Coach when you lose blame it on the different ball!
What you do is have your players use different balls in practice! Make sure they are the proper weight with and without air. You have them doing ball handling drills with different types of balls. Dawn see my last comment!
What you don't do is blame the ball for your lost, LMAO!!!
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now, that's an informed post!

most of us mortals really dislike it when, particularly outdoors, the only ball available is that plastically one that many seem to have in the back of their closet - 'im not bringing my good one! the asphalt will turn my pro one, with the nice smooth leather, into a suede mess.'
note: right after paige's commitment, someone posted a pic of her at a playground holding the plastically one. i then pointed it out in my post.
 
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Geesworld said:
Again, to you or anyone who commented on my post. I said nothing about her Nike Ball reference being a legit excuse. If that comment is what's getting everyone's skin to turn, so be it. But don't make my message a co-defendant because it was not.
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I am replying to your comment, "She gave her opinion and protected her team ...". My point is she threw her team under the bus by saying they were inadequate to adapt.
 
HuskeyinSC said:
I am replying to your comment, "She gave her opinion and protected her team ...". My point is she threw her team under the bus by saying they were inadequate to adapt.
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I understood and don't agree with that. I could be wrong, But I never heard her say they, were inadequate. She did say her team didn't adjust. I did hear her say that our (UCONN) Defense crowded her teams space and made it hard for them.
 
Geesworld said:
She made no excuses on why she lost. She gave her opinion and protected her team while building up her team after a loss. It's ok to for a coach to play the we had an off night card verses tearing down her team and planting seeds of doubt. Especially with a young team in which she has.
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somehow I don't see Geno ever using the feel of the basketball as the reason his team didn't play well.............
 
There you saw a press conference which brought out 2 principal characteristics of Dawn's character. She takes everything personally and she is never wrong. Will we meet them again this year? Could well be. Both teams have things to work on. Gotta keep an eye on Dawn and the game balls.
 
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Charliebball said:
somehow I don't see Geno ever using the feel of the basketball as the reason his team didn't play well.............
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Nope never. Sometimes I wish he would....Sarcasm
Dawn did say UCONN players had something to do with the lost?
 
SVCBeercats said:
It was the ball's fault!
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Yeah this was weird and unnecessary to mention. Zia Cooke also referred to this on her postgame interview. Why didn't they practice with the right ball prior to the game? If anything it is POOR planning on SC's side. Be prepared. Do better.

Also, the SC players did not give UCONN any credit for their defense during the post game interviews. 🙄
 
AgStatesman said:
SC has played 8 road games this year. Including last night against UConn, they have used the Nike ball 6 times. Below are photos taken, all from this year, of SC using the Nike ball. Dec 6 at Iowa St., Jan 4 at Alabama, Jan 10 at Kentucky, Jan 14 at Vanderbilt, and Jan 24 at LSU.
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Stats broken down by 'Other' and 'Nike' based on the above post.

As a team
13.1 vs 16.5 TPG.

As a player
1.9 vs 4.0 TPG for Henderson
17.7 vs 12.5 PPG for Cooke (eFG% .487 vs .430)

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AgStatesman said:
Please don't read into this post as a lack of a life on my part. (though with covid it is true)

SC has played 8 road games this year. Including last night against UConn, they have used the Nike ball 6 times. Below are photos taken, all from this year, of SC using the Nike ball. Dec 6 at Iowa St., Jan 4 at Alabama, Jan 10 at Kentucky, Jan 14 at Vanderbilt, and Jan 24 at LSU.
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Yeah but you'll took a little bit of the air out :)
 
When I was playing (mediocre) high school softball, the ball color was transitioning from white to that fluorescent yellow. For a few years, you might show up at a game and there was a white ball or there was a yellow ball -- you never quite knew what you were going to get until you got there.

So what did we do? We practiced with both colors. Coach kept a big bucket of balls and whether it was batting practice or fielding drills, we never knew which color was coming at us.

If we could figure it out...
 
All this talk of the ball makes my head want to explode, and frankly very disappointed in Staley. Can only imagine if she were in a conference where some teams are at altitude and others not! Haven't heard that used as the excuse for visitors to Colorado or Utah.
 
HopJim said:
I follow basketball extensively, men, women, AAU, etc. Has anyone ever heard this message of a meaningful difference in brand balls?
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When we played on our own playground or traveled to other playgrounds; there was available a mix of different basketballs with covers made from synthetic rubber, rubber, composition, or leather. Our biggest concern was a ball to play with and the ball was properly inflated - it bounced! The real problem was the "court" surfaces. Which were rough at best. Never heard anyone complain about losing because of the ball or the "court."
 
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Well to me the big news here is; Different schools use different balls? I’ve been watching college hoops as long as most here and never knew that.
 
For the rest of the year, I hope that coaches on teams that lose to SC say: "It was the ball"...tongue in cheek. Maybe that will lighten her up? Doubt it!
 
Dawn is a spoiled sport, Dawn is a spoiled sport - Take the ball and go home - Oh wait, its a Nike ball, Never Mind
 
Its Dawns' fault they lost, because her halftime adjustments were trash. Cooke and Henderson were trying to draw fouls and get to the line. They were taking ill-advised shots without anyone else touching the ball. They did their best Arike impressions with their shooting numbers, but unfortunately both are rail thin and cant draw contact. They knew they would stuffed so they continued forcing insane shots. I was getting so annoyed with them not passing Boston the ball. Plus they made lazy pass after lazy pass. Nika and Paige feasted on those passes.

Also, have Edwards and Amihere ever played together on a Canadian national team? Edwards may not be as athletic as Amihere, but she is way more skilled and physical.

Boston needs a stretch 4 counterpart, and some guards that will give her the ball. She has no room to operate, and she still had a pretty good game. Paige found her posts on some nice pick and rolls. Henderson uses a pick and she isn't even looking in the direction for the pass. It was ugly to watch. I underestimated Harris' impact on this team.
 
Argonaut said:
When I was playing (mediocre) high school softball, the ball color was transitioning from white to that fluorescent yellow. For a few years, you might show up at a game and there was a white ball or there was a yellow ball -- you never quite knew what you were going to get until you got there.

So what did we do? We practiced with both colors. Coach kept a big bucket of balls and whether it was batting practice or fielding drills, we never knew which color was coming at us.

If we could figure it out...
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Sorry not the same thing.
 
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cbraarj said:
Sorry not the same thing.
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The ball being hurled at you is a completely different color! It was especially difficult as a batter. I’m sorry, but that was exponentially more difficult than playing with different brands of basketballs (which we also did, but never thought twice about it).
 
ClifSpliffy said:
enlightenment! check for, bouknight, james, and a whole host of other accomplished stars, including qb's. for my size, i have average hands. nutz. oh well, ... but i can make a righteous pizza.
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Average hands = average...........
 
Reypl21 said:
Its Dawns' fault they lost, because her halftime adjustments were trash. Cooke and Henderson were trying to draw fouls and get to the line. They were taking ill-advised shots without anyone else touching the ball. They did their best Arike impressions with their shooting numbers, but unfortunately both are rail thin and cant draw contact. They knew they would stuffed so they continued forcing insane shots. I was getting so annoyed with them not passing Boston the ball. Plus they made lazy pass after lazy pass. Nika and Paige feasted on those passes.

Also, have Edwards and Amihere ever played together on a Canadian national team? Edwards may not be as athletic as Amihere, but she is way more skilled and physical.

Boston needs a stretch 4 counterpart, and some guards that will give her the ball. She has no room to operate, and she still had a pretty good game. Paige found her posts on some nice pick and rolls. Henderson uses a pick and she isn't even looking in the direction for the pass. It was ugly to watch. I underestimated Harris' impact on this team.
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Watching Boston on offense not counting her off. rebounds. She used 2 moves with one dribbling in the lane with her left and spinning back to the right to go up strong. UConn kept falling for it. Where was the double team when she went back to her right. Her second move would be staying with her left and looking for the 10' jumper. We know the coaches watch film with the players but do the players watch film on who they're guarding to see the tendacies they are good at. So you know what to look for and try to deny them the spot on the floor and/or the ball. To their tendacies that make them uncomfortable and let them beat you from. I'm talking about individual players one on one. Yes the Coaches tell them about these but how much do they do on their own.
 
Argonaut said:
The ball being hurled at you is a completely different color! It was especially difficult as a batter. I’m sorry, but that was exponentially more difficult than playing with different brands of basketballs (which we also did, but never thought twice about it).
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I played fast pitch softball for 20 years. Played about 30 games a year and have used white, yellow, green and orange balls and never had a problem hitting anyone of them. None of the other players had problems either. I also played slow pitch for 27 years and combined played over 200 games a year for 20 of those years. I even played in snowball tournaments with an orange ball and at least 6 inches of snow had to be on the ground. The only ball I had trouble seeing was the orange ball when it was under the snow. Tournament every year for the March of Dimes Charity!

My one sentence disagreement with your statement wasn't just a whim. I know what I am talking about as far as softball. Those were some great times.

As for basketball having played and coached a lot of years. The different brands do have different textures and feel different on your hands. I have played with all the different brands in both Mens and Womens balls. Not an excuse for a lost.Read my previous post.
 
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