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Replicant said:
How about a big round of applause for referees Sue Blauch, Michael Price and Gina Cross on their historic NCAA record setting assists performance! :mad:

Cal actually finished in 3rd place last night on FTA: ND-33, Novosel-20, Cal-14!!!
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Interestingly enough Sue Blauch was one of the refs in our game against ND at the RAC and the game was called differently. Novasel was called for 2 charges right off the bat, only scored 6 points and one of those was a 3 pt. shot. She only got to the foul line once. I think the home court is often a big influence on the refs. ND was able to adapt in that game, they shot more 3's and did not get to the line significantly more than RU, but might not be able to do so against a team like UConn. I think that is some of what we saw in the Big East Championship game, which was essentially a home game for UConn (no offense intended by that statement) and was called more evenly.
 
UConnCat said:
I would think Muffet encourages it; she'd be crazy not to. Good things happen when Notre Dame's big guards get in to the lane: a made basket, a foul or both. ND's guards are certainly capable perimeter shooters, but most coaches would prefer to force ND into taking perimeter shots. ND scores more points and gets opponents in foul trouble when Diggins, Novasel etc get in to the lane and create contact and shots (+ fouls) for themselves or for Peters. Give ND's guards credit for being willing to get into the lane and accept the physical contact. There aren't a lot of guards who have the body or the will to do that. It's up to opponents to figure out ways to keep them out of the lane, take charges or not commit fouls. Opposing coaches also need to raise the issue with the media before playing ND (like Geno has done).
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This is exactly correct. One cannot wait until the game one must place it in the officials' minds from the get go.
 
MilfordHusky said:
Did ND's approach of taking the ball into the lane for academy award performances begin or accelerate in the Final Four last year, or has it been this bad for a couple of years? When Stef got in foul trouble, they took the ball into the lane last year and, per Geno, forced the refs to make calls.

They are a good team, and Novosel is a good shooter, but the bogus calls are the difference between a good (top 10) team and elite (top 4) team. It is bad basketball and and bad officiating. One poster noted yesterday that Muffett should be embarassed. My question is: Does Muffet encourage it or merely condone it? It is getting them wins; I doubt that she has any complaints.
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My concern would be is she already training the next generation of body throwers ie., McBride and Turner or does it end with Novosel and Diggins. The whole strategy reminds me of my little league coach telling me when I was ten years old to step in front of the ball so I could take a base for being hit with the ball. You also have to watch Peters who has gotten quite adept at flopping. Touch her with any part of your body and she flies through the air and lands on the floor...it is ridiculous. I understand gamesmanship and selling the foul but some of her flops are legendary and take the art to a whole new level. When Geno said he had some surprises to show in the last game of the Big East Tourney when we played ND for the third time...I actually thought he had told the team to flop everytime they were touched...he didn't but it was in my mind.
 
The opponent still has to be disciplined enough to not foul so that the ref has the option of not calling the foul. Notre Dame's guards were flailing around, but Cal wasn't playing disciplined enough to avoid the falls. There were plenty of times where Cal was a step slow or hacked late with just enough contact to create foul calls. The other team has to help the refs too.
 
Icebear said:
Clearly, the answer is the need for more Jewish and Protestant officals.:cool:

Oy vey as if my people didn't have enough tzurris, some minister has to vish this on us. He must be the dybbuk himself. Vell, ve von't be doink any Shabbos games, so that leaves you, Iceberg, to handle the Saturday chores.
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It's hard not to 'foul' when the opposing player is launching herself into you. The ND players don't accept contact, they too often initiate the contact.
 
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Don't worry, cohen, not all your people keep kosher. BTW, I live in Mifllintown, PA where along with the rabbi we goyim produce Empire Kosher chickens.
 
Ice - You gots to spell Kosher correctly. And 2 comments, don't tell the rabbi, but some of us Cohanim even watch hoops on Shabbos and that he should try to get the damn price down on them there Empire birds. They must feed them Arabian oil.
 
cohenzone said:
Ice - You gots to spell Kosher correctly. And 2 comments, don't tell the rabbi, but some of us Cohanim even watch hoops on Shabbos and that he should try to get the damn price down on them there Empire birds. They must feed them Arabian oil.
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No, its spelled like those watches you buy in downtown NYC. You knows the Roleks.
 
Icebear said:
Exactly, it hurts a team twice because the opponent goes to the line and it puts defenders in foul trouble when it is called continually.

.. Or maybe Geno needs to bring some local nuns, priests and the Bishop to the game to sit behind the UConn bench.
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Won't work against ND. They go straight to the Vatican.
 
Somebody mentioned UT/UConn??

Back when I followed UT more, I'd get SO aggravated at the reffing, period!! I tuned int to watch the Vols beat the Huskies....not to be jobbed, and not to have the Huskies hamstrung. I wanted good basketball!!!

The refs, would always, ALWAYS tag the bigs with ticky-tack fouls. After that, it largely went to homer-town reffing.

Another big disappointment was a Jayne Appel game with UT...both her and UT's big were non-factors, both getting horrible nothing calls.
 
The really awful part of the Cal game??

Cal's posts were dominant players when given a chance to play. Peters got away with murder, but even that can be tolerated if the bigs get their touches.

The reality is those bigs drew a lot of fouls not called, such as holds, over-the-backs, and arm-slaps.
 
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I supposed the refs are going to have a difficult time deciding against Notre Dame's next opponent, the Bonnies of St. Bonaventure. Maybe, with school president Sister Margaret Carney, helping work the side lines. Should ND and UC meet up for a 4th time, it may help UConn if the Huskies changed their name to the St. Genos. Anyway, in Geno and in Geno's mouth we trust. With the Cal game, we have others, the viewers, see for themselves. We have a witness, we aren't crazy after all.
 
uconnfan68 said:
Walz from Louisville had perhaps even more to complain about. The UL-MD game was a real home job.
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Glad I am not the only one with that impression of the UL-MD game.
 
Artifact said:
Reminds me when they won their first NCAA championship. For the first 3 years they most often called a walk on Ruth Reilly when she went to take a shot. Senior year they gave her a pass. What happened to Cal. in regards to the ref's calls is exactly what occurred to us. They got ref-erized.
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I like the post, but I hate the reminder. It was beyond frustrating [sic] to watch her get away with it time and time again and draw a foul to boot!
 
Anyone know if the coaches have any say in ref selection? I was reading the CIAC HS tourney rules; sounds like there is a process where coaches can put in their two cents as to who is recommended to ref the games, and who they would not recommend. Or is this handled solely by the NCAA?

Of course, still cannot guarantee that once the game starts, a ref won't get caught up in the home town excitement, but it might keep the more blatant abusers out of the games, and give the others something else to keep in mind.
 
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speedoo said:
Ditto. L'ville wins that game on a neutral court, with fair officiating.
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The biggest weakness in the women's tournament is allowing teams to play on their home courts. I understand why it's done but that doesn't make it right or fair.
 
Frank said:
Excellent Point, different defenders, different attacks , hence she cannot get into a rhythm with any one person. Full court pressure from the first whistle and use a large bench to give plenty of rest.




This gave me a good visual (I can see the bishop now waving his finger back and forth to the refs on Geno’s head nod) made me laugh......
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While Geno's mom sprinkles some holy water...
 
Icebear said:
Exactly, it hurts a team twice because the opponent goes to the line and it puts defenders in foul trouble when it is called continually.

Clearly, the answer is the need for more Jewish and Protestant officals.:cool: Or maybe Geno needs to bring some local nuns, priests and the Bishop to the game to sit behind the UConn bench.
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I think Geno needs to bring an Exorcist because clearly Notre Dame has made a deal with the devil.
 
Aluminny69 said:
As long as I have been watching basketball, it seems the Refs are always partial to the home team.
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Probably not consciously, but they are. That's what home-field advantage really is: more calls go against the visiting team, in every sport.
 
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uconnfan68 said:
Walz from Louisville had perhaps even more to complain about. The UL-MD game was a real home job.
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i watched that game also and definitely disagree. Louisville and UMD were going at it but neither the announcers nor any reputable source as even hinted that somehow this was a homer win. just the usual uconn side spitting on UMD. by the way, i think that iceboar guy said Louisville would win that game due their much defense and much better coaching. after all, you folks think walz won the NC while at UMD, not Freeze, don't you? eat some crow folks.
 
Three points: first, punctuation 1fan, punctuation. It makes your post easier to read, please.
Second, you don't sound the least bit impartial in the matter, which makes it difficult to take your criticism seriously. Boneyarders make like U of L, or Jeff, or dislike Brenda or UMD, but our team isn't playing in the game (obviously), so, whatever "dog we have in the fight" is, at best, our first cousin's dog. You sound like a Maryland fan, plain and simple. (I know, I know, but, I'll be good.)

Third, for a first post, this surely wasn't designed to win friends, influence people, or even start a spirited debate. This is more of a Halloween drive-by, throwing eggs at somebody's house. Kinda juvenile, foolish, and pointless.
 
1fan said:
i watched that game also and definitely disagree. Louisville and UMD were going at it but neither the announcers nor any reputable source as even hinted that somehow this was a homer win. just the usual uconn side spitting on UMD. by the way, i think that iceboar guy said Louisville would win that game due their much defense and much better coaching. after all, you folks think walz won the NC while at UMD, not Freeze, don't you? eat some crow folks.
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Yes, I am a male bear (boar), thanks for noticing, but the name is icebear. On the other hand you are the perfect example of a Maryland fan and a bore or boorish who thinks that wit is measured in rudeness. Yes, I expected L-ville, the sixth place team in the Big East, to beat Maryland and they played them quite closely as a 7 seed to MD's 2 seed. A 4 point win doesn't earn Maryland many bragging points for that game.
 
pap49cba said:
The biggest weakness in the women's tournament is allowing teams to play on their home courts. I understand why it's done but that doesn't make it right or fair.
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Gee, that sounds familiar.
 
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