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Polley rebounding fun fact

He just doesn't seem to have a clue how to track a ball. I think it mostly instinct which he doesn't have. I wish there was a way to combine his size with Vital or vice-versa.
 
His defensive rebounding rate last year was the worst we've had on a UConn team of a guy getting regular minutes since Craig Austrie in '09. Literally worse than all of the guards we've had in the last decade.
 
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Spaceman213J said:
He just doesn't seem to have a clue how to track a ball. I think it mostly instinct which he doesn't have. I wish there was a way to combine his size with Vital or vice-versa.
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It’s also instinct positioning. especially defensively. Hard to teach
He can improve his offensive rebounding which requires less instinct and just hustle.
 
I feel he is just plain afraid of physical play - he never mixes it up
 
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I think it's more than Polley. I think some of it is schematic. I noticed on a few occasions the Huskies running back on defense as the ball came off the rim. Sometimes there were five Hawks and no Huskies in rebounding position. This only happens if the players have been taught to get back to stop transition as soon as possible and it is a higher priority than offensive rebounding. If we send guys to the glass, that does open up the fast break for the opponent. You have to prioritize one over the other. Clearly our guys have been taught to get back as soon as possible. It's aother issue that Hurley needs to address.
 
Palatine said:
I think it's more than Polley. I think some of it is schematic. I noticed on a few occasions the Huskies running back on defense as the ball came off the rim. Sometimes there were five Hawks and no Huskies in rebounding position. This only happens if the players have been taught to get back to stop transition as soon as possible and it is a higher priority than offensive rebounding. If we send guys to the glass, that does open up the fast break for the opponent. You have to prioritize one over the other. Clearly our guys have been taught to get back as soon as possible. It's aother issue that Hurley needs to address.
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My stat at least was defensive rebounding only. And he's beyond terrible at it.
 
You'd think the son of an NFL linebacker would be inclined to lay a body on an opponent every once and awhile.
 
auror said:
My stat at least was defensive rebounding only. And he's beyond terrible at it.
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Yah, it ain't schematic. It's a matter of effort, desire, instinct,strength, positioning and will. But mostly desire.
 
Polley has outrebounded Jonathan Mandeldove though. So point for Polley.
 
MattMang23 said:
Polley has outrebounded Jonathan Mandeldove though. So point for Polley.
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Not by rebounding rate, although data for Mandeldove on that is less available since he played so few minutes (only his last season and only total rate available).
 
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auror said:
Not by rebounding rate, although data for Mandeldove on that is less available since he played so few minutes (only his last season and only total rate available).
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Yes, was going by rpg only, as the initial poster was doing, but I understand your point about a per-minute basis.
 
joober jones said:
As of now, he's averaged 1.7 rpg for his career. That's a full rebound less than Albert Mouring, who grabbed an average of 2.7 rebounds per game over his 4 years at UConn.
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@dannyHAM the Polley apologist. I like the kid and like his shooting abilities, but step up!
 
auror said:
His defensive rebounding rate last year was the worst we've had on a UConn team of a guy getting regular minutes since Craig Austrie in '09. Literally worse than all of the guards we've had in the last decade.
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I tried to find a player who logged 50% or more of their minutes at the 4 last year with a lower Reb% and literally couldn't. He's a historically bad rebounder.
 
There was a play vs St Joes in which the ball came off the rim and hit the floor. Polley was the only one within 5 feet of the ball and he looked shocked that he was able to get the rebound. It is such a statement of where our program is that someone as soft as he is plays and starts.
 
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HanDurley said:
useless if he's not hitting his shots.
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He can be useful even if he has a bad shooting game, but he needs to defend like he did the last half of last season. Don't forget, the second half of last year he played terrific defense even if he wasn't rebounding.
 
I love all the Polley trashing here...the guy is probably our most solid player right now. He's a high efficiency scorer when he gets enough touches. Yes he isn't a great rebounder, but this St. Joseph's game isn't exactly an example of a typical game. They played 5 out the entire game, so it wasn't like Polley was guarding a prototypical 4 who was working inside the paint the whole time. Yes, he's a weak rebounder but he's also one of, if not the only one I want to take a shot if we have the ball down 2 with 20 seconds to play. The poor play to start the season is more a function of our poor PG play, not Tyler Polley. Gilbert had about 15 opportunities to kick to a wide open Tyler Polley (who didn't miss from 3) and instead he dribbled into 3 defenders who were all 6" taller than him. Just absolutely atrocious decision making. If Gilbert gets straightened out we will be fine. I expect Hurley to make some very quick adjustments and we'll see Gilbert making an effort to distribute and create for others first and look for his shot 2nd.
 
UConnStats said:
I tried to find a player who logged 50% or more of their minutes at the 4 last year with a lower Reb% and literally couldn't. He's a historically bad rebounder.
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I tried to do something similar last season. I'm convinced he's the worst rebounding 6'9 guy ever.
 
ucp990411 said:
There was a play vs St Joes in which the ball came off the rim and hit the floor. Polley was the only one within 5 feet of the ball and he looked shocked that he was able to get the rebound. It is such a statement of where our program is that someone as soft as he is plays and starts.
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He will he coming off the bench as a senior to hit threes.
 
superjohn said:
He will he coming off the bench as a senior to hit threes.
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Promise? And I am not a Polley hater, the kid can hit open 3’s. But he is not starting material on a top 25 team. But neither is Carlton, CV and AG the way he is playing
 
Hugo said:
And unfortunately it's unlikely it gets much better this year.
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So far, he's almost double his average for this year. (3 per game through two!) odds are he won't keep it up, but hope springs eternal in this ol' heart of mine.
 
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Per 40 min, Mandeldove averaged 6.7 rebounds and 5.3 blocks.
 
Guy is as soft as a pillow but he’s a prolific practice shooter so let’s give him the benefit of the doubt!
 
What I don't see, as of yet that is, an improvement of explosion from Polley, particularly following summer with Sal. Though he's 6'9" he lacks power in his gait and in his jump, without these things along with a lack of instinct for the ball make it difficult to rebound.
He has to overcome his deficiencies here or his minutes have to go those who can help us in this area.
 
He's the opposite of Christian. Christian freshmen year jumped to the basket for rebounds but frequently left his player wide open for kick out threes. Tremendous improvement from freshmen year to now in his timing.

Tyler glues himself to his player at the expense of going for rebounds. Given that he frequently is guarding opposing players who are perimeter oriented plus this preference to stay with his player his rebounding numbers will be poor.

Let's see if the dog personality develops in Tyler and he develops the confidence to not make mistakes. I don't believe it's a lack of physical capability or fear to mix it up that's holding him back.
 
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