Please tell me again how college basketball doesn’t have an officiating problem

[freescooter]

Consistency is the only thing that matters in regards to officiating. A foul on one end of the floor is a foul on the other end. A call made in the first minute should be the same call made in last minute.

I think this is right in theory but everyone in every sport knows that officials don’t and likely never will make calls in the final seconds that they will always make in the first ones. Beyond that calls are made for specific reasons. How many times have we all seen refs start calling games tighter if it looks like things are getting very chippy? A good official knows how to keep a game under control and how to get it back when it gets out of control.

Frankly I hope part of this is Big East refs learn to call fouls based on the rules and stop playing to the “rough tough” New Big East nonsense. When you watch other leagues, play is much less about subway mugging and more about the beauty of a free flowing game. Even Hurley commented that his system is more effective in the NCAA tournament because the do call fouls for clutching and grabbing and holding.

 

[ColchVEGAS]

@freescooter. I agree and do not at the same time. As much as I hate seeing a call in the last seconds to decide a game, I hate seeing how the game is called changed from half to half even more.

Like you said I get why they do it, to regain control if things are getting chippy, but it ultimately destroys the flow of the game after the teams have adjusted to what is being called and what is not.

I can live with "bad" calls as long as those said "bad" calls stay the same on both ends.

 

[temery]

Seems over-excessive. These refs are grown men and know what they sign up for.

Looks like not everyone's strong enough to face the wrath of Hurley.

Hurley's wrath is a problem, not a solution. There are crappy refs. There are biased refs. There are refs who hate vanilla ice cream and anchovies on pizza. But there is no conspiracy among refs to screw UConn, and there is no ref on this planet who hates UConn but decides to call a fair game because he's afraid of Hurley's wrath.

 

[6Nattys4Us]

The rough, tough Big East style should have ended with the 6 foul experiment. Refs should be calling the same game they call in the SEC, Big10/12, or any other conference.

It does a disservice to the coaches and players to call a league-specific way then they get burnt in the Dance.

 

[uconnfan68]

This isn't true.

Calling touch falls when driving and ignoring holding players without the ball equally on the both sides impacts the game and unfairly can unfairly bias the outcome of the game (see every UConn Big East game).

These decisions are not neutral to the outcome of the game.

Don't get me started on how this impacts big football games.

Pretty sure you missed the point. Nothing was bothsided.

 

[RuffRuff]

Are we really all that interested in retention of officials?

Or should we be more interested in the actual removal of obviously bad officials?

Issue is whether there are good ones ready to replace.

Perhaps incentivizing with awards/recognitions or bonus’ could help motivate.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Are we really all that interested in retention of officials?

Or should we be more interested in the actual removal of obviously bad officials?

Mutually exclusive scenarios?

 

[prankster]

Hurley's wrath is a problem, not a solution. There are crappy refs. There are biased refs. There are refs who hate vanilla ice cream and anchovies on pizza. But there is no conspiracy among refs to screw UConn, and there is no ref on this planet who hates UConn but decides to call a fair game because he's afraid of Hurley's wrath.

I disagree with you.

And I believe it originates in John Cahill's office.

And I further believe they are intentionally rigging outcomes to try to ensure that the BE gets a minimum of 4 teams into the NCAAT. And there is no more "quality win" once conference play begins than a win over UConn.

 

[temery]

I disagree with you.

And I believe it originates in John Cahill's office.

And I further believe they are intentionally rigging outcomes to try to ensure that the BE gets a minimum of 4 teams into the NCAAT. And there is no more "quality win" once conference play begins than a win over UConn.

Keep buying the tin foil. Back-2-Back must mean the refs are not only biased against UConn, they're terrible at fixing games.

 

[prankster]

Keep buying the tin foil.

That is just so much 20th Century thinking.

I am all in on carbon fiber hats.

 

[prankster]

Keep buying the tin foil. Back-2-Back must mean the refs are not only biased against UConn, they're terrible at fixing games.

In any case, no aspect of this little exercise addresses the blatantly poor officiating that overlays the BE basketball product.

The officials just plain stink, and the Conference is worried about the lousy officials feelings. Not at all the fact that the fans have noticed how bad the officiating sucks.

And "Back 2 Back" derives from the fact that, when it counts, the BE biased officiating has been sidelined.

How in the world was UConn suddenly a world beating, dominant juggernaut? What happened right after the BE season ended that could possibly have been so impactful?

Yeah, me too! It's just a real puzzler, that.

 

[InKembaITrust]

Hurley's wrath is a problem, not a solution. There are crappy refs. There are biased refs. There are refs who hate vanilla ice cream and anchovies on pizza. But there is no conspiracy among refs to screw UConn, and there is no ref on this planet who hates UConn but decides to call a fair game because he's afraid of Hurley's wrath.

Call it whatever you want, I don't think Hurley is gong to stop yelling at refs anytime soon.

 

[GampelGladiator]

Any moment a coach is arguing with the officials...is a moment that a coach isn't coaching the players

 

[RuffRuff]

Any moment a coach is arguing with the officials...is a moment that a coach isn't coaching the players

Although in a way it’s showing your kids you have their back.

 

[Scoe]

Call it whatever you want, I don't think Hurley is gong to stop yelling at refs anytime soon.

Hurley hasn't even picked up 1 tech since Maui, if he's really abusing officials wouldn't he have a boatload of technicals.

 

[jake14mw]

Glad to hear about the program. I have no idea how they find people to referee considering how badly they are treated.

 

[superjohn]

Val doing the important stuff, good grief with this commissioner.

 

[El Obrero]

Grab 3 of your friends. Tell 1 to stand in front of you, tell another to start rushing at you from 3 feet away, and jump over them both to sling a basketball 40 feet away to the third guy before they can steal it from you

Let us know if you can do that without your legs swinging out

I tried it.
My brother Patrick is on his way to the hospital, but the cops decided not to arrest me.

 

[Mr. French]

I gotta say, the kick looked intentional to me. That is in no way a normal movement in that situation. So it is at a minimum a flagrant 1. And once you get to it being intentional, now the question is whether it was aimed for the family jewels or not? I can see how the refs got there.

Man…I just came across this…this makes me positive you’ve never played in any real way. Like, even pickup?

 

[nomar]

You obviously dont watch much basketball. Many players have perfected the leg kick while taking a three point shot. It often gets a call against the defender.

That's completely different. First, there's a legitimate reason to do that: drawing a foul. Second, it's muscle memory; guys are used to doing it. Here, the notion that this dude instantaneously decided to kick a dude in the nuts while he was trying to make an airborne cross-court pass is LOL silly. BTW, the announcers mentioned Toppin had 6 assists in his last 8 games. Sounds like he's not exactly John Stockton, which makes it even more absurd to think this guy was multitasking.

A lot of galaxy brain takes here.