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Message: [QUOTE="Patman, post: 5126175, member: 3391"] oh all things are doable with enough spare time. I just don't care enough if it isn't simple. if it were up to me and I had all the time and patience I'd try some rather exotic things edit: I have that paper open from some other source. In the end, I don't actually want to do anything too nuts or create a truly new method based on latest hard line research. Neither time nor career interest to do so. I'm a government not an academic. [/QUOTE]