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I don’t think adding a guy who just stands out at the perimeter and launches threes addresses our problems.
It does if he’s making half of them. Especially at the end of one possession games. We’d probably have 3/4 more wins now easily.
 
It does if he’s making half of them. Especially at the end of one possession games. We’d probably have 3/4 more wins now easily.
Great, so we swap in Brea’s 3 points and zero assists for Mahaney’s14 and 3 yesterday and get run out of the building.

If the point is that we made some miscalculations with the portal and the amount of internal development we could realistically expect from the returning players, I can’t really argue too much. I just dont think taking Kobe Brea over Mahaney or one of the sophomores that might have transferred out makes much of a difference on how the season has gone. Oddly enough, two of Stewart’s best games were the losses to Memphis and ‘Nova. As noted above, Brea doesn’t change yesterday’s loss and I don’t see that any portal addition was going to save us against Dayton.
 
We did play fairly decently with two bigs in the game last night. I mean Tarris is kind of lost right now and Samson is offering more rim protection. Here I go again 3-2 zone with Taris and Samson on the box. Only thing is can Tarris go out and defend the corner three without fouling. I guess same for Johnson but he is getting better.
I’m pretty sure X extended their lead when we went to the two big look.
 
Ok, he had a bad game, so what? He averages 11 a game and shoots like 45% from three.

These are his last 5 since a big day against Florida. He has 1 assist in those 5 games combined too - and never gets to the line. He lit it up against mid majors.

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Because to date it hasn’t been true. When Singare has been in, the staff has pretty much just asked him to wall up on defense and get some rebounds. He doesn’t really contest much because when he does, he has committed some pretty egregious fouls. That’s not a shot at him, he’s done exactly what he’s been asked to and what has been needed of him, which is competent defensive minutes in emergency situations. The idea that he’s some defensive stopper is just not supported by his play to date.
I would have to look up the stats. Frankly, he’s been in so little my reference admittedly is from several games ago. He grabbed some offensive rebounds which is somewhat new to us :) in the games I watched.

But let’s be honest we’re getting eaten up on the inside, the idea of mixing it up isn’t that far fetched.

I’d like to see him in a bit more.
 
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These are his last 5 since a big day against Florida. He has 1 assist in those 5 games combined too - and never gets to the line. He lit it up against mid majors.

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Brea wasn’t the solve, at all. Would easily rather have a Solo with two more years.

And yes, he’s likely to be here two more years. All this NBA chatter is really premature. He’s a shortish SG with limited handle who’s only plus right now is 3pt shooting. He is a brutal, not just bad, defender. Show me his profile in the NBA. How is he any different than someone like Fletcher Loyer? He may be athletic on paper, but until we see him using it effectively, not much different. Show me an off-season of weights that allow him to take contact and go to the rim, and we can re-assess. Too many people here love to hype up NBA stock prematurely.
 
I have said this all season but Sigare deserves more minutes. He is a strong defensive presence and deterrent for opponents taking it to the rim. Why Dan doesn’t see this, I’m still not sure.

Stewart - just consistency - he can’t take plays off.

Karaban - Now that opposing players are not worried about NBA Lottery picks he is seeing defense like he’s never seen. I don’t want to pile on him - hope he continues to not only get better but be the “man” - trust him at end of games to lead the team.

Solo and Diarra agreed.

My take this season is it is BACK TO EARTH.

We beat many teams last year like we are getting beat this year.

The only thing that will solve this issue IMO is not individual but TEAM.

Drive together not “one on one” Team rebound. Communicate better on the defensive end and yes, the coaching need to make better adjustments. Right now they look a little lost out there at times with players not sure who they are guarding, missing switches and going to late in shot clock on offensive end.

Good news is it’s only January but I think we do need to be careful not to play ourselves into the NIT.
Good synopsis
 
In this day and age if you’re not showing signs as a freshman it’s likely not gonna happen for a player. Sophomore class outside Solo looks like a big whiff.
Gotta go get some dudes in the portal
Yes and can’t worry about hurt feelings. Ross and Stewart have been given every opportunity. This is the new CBB landscape.
 
This is completely wrong. Players develop at different rates and most guys starting across D1 are upperclassmen. Our sophomores are just starting. Whaley, Deandre Daniels, Giffey, Armstrong and loads more all took years to get where they ended up.
And that was in a completely different era. Can’t wait 3 years for guys to develop anymore, and you don’t have to.
 
This is completely wrong. Players develop at different rates and most guys starting across D1 are upperclassmen. Our sophomores are just starting. Whaley, Deandre Daniels, Giffey, Armstrong and loads more all took years to get where they ended up.
Our sophomores are role players at best on a contending team. Ball can shoot but is not great defensively. Stewart can defend but inconsistent (being generous) offensively. And Ross is just not good.
 
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Our sophomores are role players at best on a contending team. Ball can shoot but is not great defensively. Stewart can defend but inconsistent (being generous) offensively. And Ross is just not good.
When has he done this besides Villanova. He is an awful defensive player and getting abused inside.
 
Our sophomores are role players at best on a contending team. Ball can shoot but is not great defensively. Stewart can defend but inconsistent (being generous) offensively. And Ross is just not good.

Stewart has been horrendous defensively in every game except Nova. I believe it’s because he had the clear quickness advantage on Dixon.

Someone earlier said Stewart was “dynamic” last year. He averaged 2pts/gm and aside for a really nice three game stretch, was a deep bench guy who did next to nothing. Honestly cannot remember a guy who has been as overhyped based on actually playing and not doing all that much.
 
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I think Ross will develop into a plus defender his junior and senior seasons, but it’s not nearly good enough for somebody who doesn’t bring much else to the table.
 
And that was in a completely different era. Can’t wait 3 years for guys to develop anymore, and you don’t have to.
Sanogo, Andre Jackson, Diarra. And look at the best team in our league. Saying we cant afford to develop our own players is one of the ________ things I've read on this board.
 
Sanogo, Andre Jackson, Diarra. And look at the best team in our league. Saying we cant afford to develop our own players is one of the ________ things I've read on this board.
What?? Sanogo was a beast when he got here, averaged 7.5,and 5 his freshman year, 15 abd 8 sophomore. Are you really comparing Ross and a Stewart to that?? Talk about idiotic.

Diarra is what he is. Anyone wants to wait for Ross or Stewart is an idiot. They have both REGRESSED over the course of the year. KY is a top 10 team with an entirely new roster. That today’s CBB. Are you blind??
 
Brea wasn’t the solve, at all. Would easily rather have a Solo with two more years.

And yes, he’s likely to be here two more years. All this NBA chatter is really premature. He’s a shortish SG with limited handle who’s only plus right now is 3pt shooting. He is a brutal, not just bad, defender. Show me his profile in the NBA. How is he any different than someone like Fletcher Loyer? He may be athletic on paper, but until we see him using it effectively, not much different. Show me an off-season of weights that allow him to take contact and go to the rim, and we can re-assess. Too many people here love to hype up NBA stock prematurely.
Good thing is Solo is going to be hilariously good offensively next season. He could average 20
 
What?? Sanogo was a beast when he got here, averaged 7.5,and 5 his freshman year, 15 abd 8 sophomore. Are you really comparing Ross and a Stewart to that?? Talk about idiotic.

Diarra is what he is. Anyone wants to wait for Ross or Stewart is an idiot. They have both REGRESSED over the course of the year. KY is a top 10 team with an entirely new roster. That today’s CBB. Are you blind??
Kentucky is in 10th place in the SEC right now. They have their issues too.
 
What?? Sanogo was a beast when he got here, averaged 7.5,and 5 his freshman year, 15 abd 8 sophomore. Are you really comparing Ross and a Stewart to that?? Talk about idiotic.

Diarra is what he is. Anyone wants to wait for Ross or Stewart is an idiot. They have both REGRESSED over the course of the year. KY is a top 10 team with an entirely new roster. That today’s CBB. Are you blind??
I didnt say a single thing you said I said. You're completely making stuff up. If you know how to read go back and read what I said.
 
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What?? Sanogo was a beast when he got here, averaged 7.5,and 5 his freshman year, 15 abd 8 sophomore. Are you really comparing Ross and a Stewart to that?? Talk about idiotic.

Diarra is what he is. Anyone wants to wait for Ross or Stewart is an idiot. They have both REGRESSED over the course of the year. KY is a top 10 team with an entirely new roster. That today’s CBB. Are you blind??
We have no chance getting into portal bidding wars with the SEC and Big Ten. We have no choice but stick with the Hurley formula of developing players and find a hidden gem or two in the portal. If we abandon that strategy I don’t see how we sell players on coming here. We aren’t in a position to outspend these programs.
 
Good thing is Solo is going to be hilariously good offensively next season. He could average 20
And he also at give up 25 defensively ;). I’d much rather have the ball in the hands of a kid that can take it to the rim in crunch time, than hope to get open for a 3 (if there wasn’t proof enough last night).
 
This is completely wrong. Players develop at different rates and most guys starting across D1 are upperclassmen. Our sophomores are just starting. Whaley, Deandre Daniels, Giffey, Armstrong and loads more all took years to get where they ended up.
Ok let me know how our current sophs minus ball do next year because they can’t be relied on to do anything this year so far.
 

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