huskyharry
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we must beat Cincy!
last yearHave we ever played a more important first round conference tournament game?
Every year where we're on the bubble. 2001, 2010, 2012 were all huge first round games.Have we ever played a more important first round conference tournament game?
Have we ever played a more important first round conference tournament game?
Let's win and remove the doubt. We don't deserver to be in if we can't beat Cincy.Any chance we get in the NCAA if we lose to Cincy? I still think we're close but we'll need a lot of luck. Our BPI and Kenpom numbers are NCAA worthy so who knows, it's probably win or bust.
The scenario is pretty simple:
Lose to Cincy=we're out
Beat Cincy, lose in semifinal=we're out
Get to final and lose=first four
Win=we're in
I like the fourth option.
It's pretty accurate. Remember what conference we play in and how the committee treats it.That really doesn't seem accurate at all, but whatever.
Yay! Narratives divorced from the actual facts!It's pretty accurate. Remember what conference we play in and how the committee treats it.
I think it will be close, @huskiesnyc , but likely out.Any chance we get in the NCAA if we lose to Cincy? I still think we're close but we'll need a lot of luck. Our BPI and Kenpom numbers are NCAA worthy so who knows, it's probably win or bust.
Any chance we get in the NCAA if we lose to Cincy? I still think we're close but we'll need a lot of luck. Our BPI and Kenpom numbers are NCAA worthy so who knows, it's probably win or bust.
Ken Pom is only one of a variety of metrics. For one, SMU was ranked in the top 25 the year they missed out. Only one other team I can remember (Utah St. about 10 years) was ranked going into a conference tournament and missed out. Let's face it in 2014, UConn and Louisville were both WAY under seeded.Yay! Narratives divorced from the actual facts!
I think it will be close, @huskiesnyc , but likely out.
Last year, KenPom teams ranked 1-44 made it. 45 was a sub-.500 Florida. Then 4 of the next 9 made it. Temple wasn't even among those, at 56.
2014, Kenpom 1-31 made it. SMU was 32. And a series of teams traded getting in and getting left off.
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And the year before that was more complicated, with some teams in the mid-20s getting left out. But I think last year was the first where the committee began openly using other metrics (people can correct me if I'm wrong).
It's pretty accurate. Remember what conference we play in and how the committee treats it.
Any chance we get in the NCAA if we lose to Cincy? I still think we're close but we'll need a lot of luck. Our BPI and Kenpom numbers are NCAA worthy so who knows, it's probably win or bust.
Here's another interesting stat from teamrankings.com (https://www.teamrankings.com/ncb/conference-tournaments/american-bracket/).
Whoever wins the Cincy/UConn game has highest odds of winning AAC tourney. Let's go win this all.
They will be an interesting comparison. They have almost no good wins (Utah is their one), but were 3-4 without Van Fleet, 21-4 with him...but the Illinois State game came with him.Wichita State lost so they will have joined the bubble probably.
The committee would love to see them in the tournament again too...They will be an interesting comparison. They have almost no good wins (Utah is their one), but were 3-4 without Van Fleet, 21-4 with him...but the Illinois State game came with him.
Great advanced metrics, mediocre traditional ones.