Plausible Hires

[John Greene]

I say Saban, Belichek, Dabo or Urban.

Why the 'or', lets make that an 'and'. Both have the same probability.

 

[skies88]

Skies I like your list of up and comers but I think Freeze's behavior while at Ole Miss would exclude him from any consideration.

I’d have thought so about Freeze too had his current stop not been Liberty of all places, and there tends to be a short memory in CFB if the coach has a brand name (see Petrino). End of the day, these programs want winners and revenue generators and Freeze ticks both boxes. That said, don’t think we’d offer more because he’ll want money we just wouldn’t pay.

 

[John Greene]

I’d have thought so about Freeze too had his current stop not been Liberty of all places, and there tends to be a short memory in CFB if the coach has a brand name (see Petrino). End of the day, these programs want winners and revenue generators and Freeze ticks both boxes. That said, don’t think we’d offer more because he’ll want money we just wouldn’t pay.

Not because I am an advocate for Freeze, I actually think he is an embarrassment waiting to happen for any school who hires him, but you have what is the crux of the FB problem, the willingness to pay for a competitive program. Having watched the saga since RE's initial hire I have sadly come to the conclusion that UConn does not have the desire (perhaps ability) to pay for a staff capable of winning more than 6-7 games a year on a consistent basis.

 

[SubbaBub]

UConn hasn't been a stable program or its entire FBS existence. First it was transitioning from FCS, then it was the BE defections, then it was the BE collapse, followed by PP/BD incompetence, now football independence.

We remain in a recruiting desert with little tradition and half the AD boosters think we should drop FB.

We are never getting a sure thing as a coach, we will always be a stepping stone for anyone who performs well unless you find that unicorn who just likes living in NE CT. Unlike most AD's we found 3 and 2 are mutli-national champions and HOF'rs. Randy has his players now, the only way he gets fired is if we remain non-competitive. I'd like to hope that the guy who could beat UCF, Pitt, and Louisville on a regular basis can beat the teams on whatever schedule AD Dave can put together. Unfortunately, Liberty won't be the sure win we thought it was. Fake, agenda driven universities can prioritize FB admissions. Hopefully we can too.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Damn

 

[Adios]

We seriously have the most emo fanbase in this damn country. I need to check out of here.

 

[huskysupporter]

We aren’t going to get a current FBS head coach regardless of pay increase. This is one of the bottom jobs in the country - independent, no support from administration, poor assistant salary pool.

With that said an awesome coach can still be found, you just have to have smart people doing the searching. FCS coaches or coordinators, FBS position coaches or coordinators have gems throughout.

what is needed, in my opinion:
1. Energetic - need someone with energy that appeals to recruits, players, and fans
2. Wide open offensive philosophy - UCONN is a tough place to recruit for a variety of reasons. Attract athletes by putting up pinball offensive numbers.
3. Recruiting -preference is someone with ties to vital recruiting areas and someone who has a concrete recruiting plan.

the interviewer(s) is just as important as the interviewee.

 

[Waquoit]

Ball’s in our court on that front. Buyout is $0 and there is no reason to go another offseason without change. We’ve hit Randy’s ceiling here, which ended up being the floor

Why would we want to fire him now? Recruiting has improved over the last two seasons. He deserves a chance to show the results on field next year. I think we will surprise.

 

[Husky68]

Why would we want to fire him now? Recruiting has improved over the last two seasons. He deserves a chance to show the results on field next year. I think we will surprise.

Ok. I'm trying to be optimistic about 2021 without being foolish (Lucy won't move the football on me again, will she?). What are "the results" required in wins to keep him and what do you think the upside "surprise" results might be (assuming they are 2 different numbers)? This will be year 5 (4 playing years) so these are his guys.

2021 schedule has a couple of "hope they don't score 100 pts games" but many that any FCS team should be competitive with (2 FBS opponents), one opponent even recruits girls (and is 0 for 2020).

As far as recruiting improving over last 2 years, looked at where recruiting groups have us this year and it seems still at lower end of FBS teams, not 128th as our recent play suggests but definitely high double digits. Isn't that where UConn has been for the last 5 years? Not disputing they are better, just would like to understand how you came to that conclusion.

 

[Slick]

Is Randy really leaving?

Randy isn’t going anywhere. His recruiting class 2 seasons ago was outstanding as many true freshman played really well. Last years class we don’t know about because we didn’t play but it looks like they have a bunch of impact players as well.

 

[skies88]

Randy isn’t going anywhere. His recruiting class 2 seasons ago was outstanding as many true freshman played really well. Last years class we don’t know about because we didn’t play but it looks like they have a bunch of impact players as well.

Outstanding isn’t a word I would use to describe anything Randy has done in his second tenure here. I’m not rooting against him and I would love for these kids to A) stay with the program and B) see success on the field. I’m just being realistic based on what he has given us over these brutal last few years. He’s taken little to no accountability and has approached this job with an arrogance and resistance to change that makes it hard for me to believe that anything will be different in ‘21. Really hope I’m wrong.

 

[Waquoit]

What are "the results" required in wins to keep him and what do you think the upside "surprise" results might be (assuming they are 2 different numbers)?

I can't give you a number, I don't l know enough about who we're playing. But we'll know if we're on the right track when we see it, kinda like pornography.

 

[Husky25]

I’m not rooting against him.

Kinda seems like you are.

 

[skies88]

Kinda seems like you are.

Don’t be lazy and cherrypick. Read the rest of the post, have a look into the last 4 years while you’re at it, and let me know where I’m wrong. It is beyond comprehension that you people still run to this guy’s defense with nothing to show for it

 

[gioff2323]

Do you really see NOTHING? That’s likely the gap.

 

[Husky25]

Don’t be lazy and cherrypick. Read the rest of the post, have a look into the last 4 years while you’re at it, and let me know where I’m wrong. It is beyond comprehension that you people still run to this guy’s defense with nothing to show for it

I did. The rest of the post + creating a thread titled, "Plausible Hires," sort of speaks for itself.

Also, simply making an observation does not mean that I am running to Edsall's defense. Sometimes, it's simply making an observation.

 

[skies88]

I did. The rest of the post + creating a thread titled, "Plausible Hires," sort of speaks for itself.

Also, simply making an observation does not mean that I am running to Edsall's defense. Sometimes, it's simply making an observation.

Talking about logical, affordable hires isn’t rooting against the incumbent. It’s looking at the abysmal body of work he’s put together in his second tenure and discussing replacements who very likely would do great work in rebuilding this program to some semblance of respectability. Would I love it if Edsall shocked the world and put a competitive, even winning team on the field next year? 100%. Is there any reason to believe that’s going to happen based on what he’s delivered thus far? Almost certainly no.

 

[Husky25]

Talking about logical, affordable hires isn’t rooting against the incumbent. It’s looking at the abysmal body of work he’s put together in his second tenure and discussing replacements who very likely would do great work in rebuilding this program to some semblance of respectability. Would I love it if Edsall shocked the world and put a competitive, even winning team on the field next year? 100%. Is there any reason to believe that’s going to happen based on what he’s delivered thus far? Almost certainly no.

Whatever floats your boat, but to me, proposing coaches to replace an incumbent, while the incumbent still occupies the position seems to be awfully similar to rooting for the incumbent to no longer occupy the position in favor of the proposed replacements.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Here is a name:
Billy Napier, Louisiana
He is 27-11 as head coach.

 

[DoctorWho85]

Here is a name:
Billy Napier, Louisiana
He is 27-11 as head coach.

He turned down Auburn which has virtually unlimited resources for football to come to UConn which will pay him marginally more than he's making now?

 

[Chin Diesel]

I can't give you a number, I don't l know enough about who we're playing. But we'll know if we're on the right track when we see it, kinda like pornography.

Last decade has kinda been like POV fisting videos.

 

[Husky68]

Whatever floats your boat, but to me, proposing coaches to replace an incumbent, while the incumbent still occupies the position seems to be awfully similar to rooting for the incumbent to no longer occupy the position in favor of the proposed replacements.

Maybe in year one or two, but he is at the end of year 4 and per the AD hasn't done a good enough job to warrant an extension (or he would have one). How many coaches with initial 5 year contracts go into their final year without either being fired or extended, probably not many.
HCRE2.0 could be extended, but since it hasn't been done to date even a slow moving AD would have to have a list for "what if HCRE2.0 has another bad (assuming you can classify year 1 to 3 as bad) year" results wise.
Not sure how you judge HCRE2.0 if UConn decides to have another practice year in 2021, although I've heard that he's a hell of a practice coach.

 

[huskymedic]

Here is a name:
Billy Napier, Louisiana
He is 27-11 as head coach.

He turned down Auburn which has virtually unlimited resources for football to come to UConn which will pay him marginally more than he's making now?

 

[Husky25]

Maybe in year one or two, but he is at the end of year 4 and per the AD hasn't done a good enough job to warrant an extension (or he would have one). How many coaches with initial 5 year contracts go into their final year without either being fired or extended, probably not many.
HCRE2.0 could be extended, but since it hasn't been done to date even a slow moving AD would have to have a list for "what if HCRE2.0 has another bad (assuming you can classify year 1 to 3 as bad) year" results wise.
Not sure how you judge HCRE2.0 if UConn decides to have another practice year in 2021, although I've heard that he's a hell of a practice coach.

I must have missed the speculation of another practice year in 2021. Particularly considering the vaccines will mostlikely filter down to use peons by then.

 

[cullaville]

Is Randy really leaving?

We can only hope