Pitino Pissed

[Johnny Mac]

Felipe Lopez and Zendon Hamilton are not walking through that door!

 

[willie99]

Rick Pitino blaming everything but himself for first-year St. John’s failure is terrible look

Rick Pitino lamented St. John’s facilities, he bemoaned his team’s lack of toughness, he suggested that his assistants had flunked him by failing to import players whose talents were perfect matche…

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You lose the NY Post, you lose NYers....

It does appear that he went a little too far, we'll learn soon enough

The the Post also pointed out he's been much better in year 2 than year 1 at every school he coached

My favorite part was when they mentioned he's going to deal with a Supernova in UConn every year

 

[UCfor3]

No sympathy at all. He ran his entire roster out of town and hand selected almost everybody through the portal. If they’re bad at defense, or not tough enough, or too slow, or just not good, that means that Pitino whiffed on them all during recruiting, and/or they are good players but he can’t coach them

Exactly, he picked them and he's coaching them. If he needs someone to blame he should look in the mirror. Narcissists never take responsibility. They blame others for their own mistakes. Slick Rick thought he would pimp walk his way back into the Big East and start taking names. He ate up all the prodigal son returns media hype and even talked some junk. Now that he's failing to live up to the hype, he's embarrassed and publicly blaming the players lack of physical attributes who he himself hand picked.

 

[NJHoops]

I guess trying to pick a fight with Hurley didn’t work, so he decided to battle his whole team for a little excitement. I get that coaches use press conferences to speak to their players, but this was wild. He wasn’t calling out effort, he was saying they lack talent and that they try really hard but are just kind of awful. Then, he calls out his assistants for bringing him bad players.

This guy consistently, at every job he has had, blames everybody else and plays the victim. They have Georgetown up next and have a good shot to win. If they can beat the second worse team in the conference, he’ll act like it it was his plan all along to motivate his guys. Save the public temper tantrum and coach your guys.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

I mean, if I played for Pitino and he said this, I’d feel like quitting after this quote:



Too bad the NIT isn’t in The Garden this year.

 

[jibsey]

What is Pitino making per year in this contract? St. John’s has tried everything including their own hero Mullens who was run out so where do they have to go?
Pitino will happily stick around to cash those large checks and he’ll probably get better players, but it ain’t easy and he and St.John’s fans are finding out.

 

[BPT2Storrs]

Pitino trying to motivate his players -but I’m not sure that type of motivation works these days.

 

[Edward Sargent]

He brought in 2 kids from the Ivy in Ledlum and Dingle whose numbers were cut in half in the Big East. If he had added Naheim and Daniss Jenkins to Soriano, Addae Wusu and Storr he would have had a better team

 

[controlfade]

Pitino been crying all season long! Its kinda funny to be honest, dude was one of the top 3 cheaters in the game year in and year out. Now there is NIL and all schools pay their kids and hes lost his edge. I for one couldnt be happier to see him struggle although i feel for all the kids that he brought in year 1. I hope they all walk out on him.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I mean, if I played for Pitino and he said this, I’d feel like quitting after this quote:



Too bad the NIT isn’t in The Garden this year.

I love how when referring to recruiting it was we while when referring to coaching it was I.

Among other things, he brings narcissism to a new level.

 

[huskeynut]

I have no sympathy for Petino. He made his bed, now he has to sleep in it. His arrogance got him this time. He's lost the team.

You dump practically a whole team and bring in all new to fill in the holes. It's a crapshoot. Petino lost. One could see early on that this version of the Johnnies was questionable.

BTW - I'll take Hurley ant day in the week over Petino.

 

[QuickDraw]

It’s not fair when everyone gets to pay their players!

 

[Edward Sargent]

Good that the Post didn't name the players Pitino called out. But as someone said tough to make it in NY sports without the Post on your side

 

[StllH8L8ner]

I mean, if I played for Pitino and he said this, I’d feel like quitting after this quote:



Too bad the NIT isn’t in The Garden this year.

If the Johnnies were good this year, I wonder if he would still be saying “we”. I doubt it. I used to work with people like that in the corporate world. When things go well, it’s “I”, when something goes wrong, it’s “we”. Needless to say I don’t work there anymore and his staff and players should start looking for greener pastures also.

Edit: Missed post #40 by @FfldCntyFan saying essentially the same thing.

 

[my2cents]

Pitino is past his prime and that type of "motivation" may have worked in the 90's , but not now.
Speaking that way about his players, his facilities will not help his recruiting.
St. John's is a relic of the past, like Old Dominion's women's basketball and will not be relevant for a long time, if ever.

 

[REB1094]

Pitino trying to motivate his players -but I’m not sure that type of motivation works these days.

Hurley regularly rips his players to shreds during the game. He was ripping the defense apart ("wet tissue" comment) to the media like a month ago, and has no problem saying that we were playing like trash in halftime and post-game comments. But it works, because Hurley built the culture and expectations that allows that type of thing to work

It's true that the media didn't do Pitino favors by hyping up SJU too much before the season, but he hand picked his entire roster and hasn't built anything at St Johns that allows him to act like that. He's earned the benefit of the doubt as a coach since he's one of the best to ever do it, but his culture is garbage right now and his players won't respond to that style unless there's a culture that it fits into

He'll get there after a few years because that's just what he does, but he's acting ahead of schedule. And tantrums like that will only alienate the fanbase

 

[RichZ]

Am I misremembering, or didn't he bring in a hand picked roster when he arrived? So now he's saying he picked guys who can't play?

 

[Chin Diesel]

I mean, if I played for Pitino and he said this, I’d feel like quitting after this quote:



Too bad the NIT isn’t in The Garden this year.

He wanted a roster of shooters and floor spacers but he doesn't know how to coach players who excel like that in the modern game. Which is a bit odd considering what he did at PC.

 

[jibsey]

He has Gtown twice, Butler, DePaul, Creighton. That’s an easy ending for them, they had better go 4-1

 

[Drame]

Alleyne left because we were actively pursuing a shooting guard in the portal.,plus we had the super freshman recruits
He was being recruited over so Hurley did not see him as a starter . Kids sometimes see themselves as something they’re not and make the change to try their luck. In his case it hasn’t worked out as he planned .
The real question is would we be better if he stayed .
A second unit of Diarra , Johnson , Alleyne , Stewart ,and Ball
would have been interesting no scary for our opponents.

Alleyne was gone before the portal opened up so dont think what you're saying is accurate. Even if Hurley had made it known that we would be looking for another shooting guard in the portal, chances are it would be a Joey C or Timberlake level player. Alleyne could have been starting for us.

 

[AllHusky]

Kids don't respond to insulting their manhood or cojones today. You listen to Hurley, and he demands and gets every bit of toughness and effort out of his kids that you can ask for, but is more relationship oriented. Pitino is old school X management style which looks at employees as tools of manufacturing, whereas Hurley is somewhere between Y and Z style, relationships and management inclusive oriented.

 

[J187Money]

Maybe he wants them to all transfer out so he can reload.

The BE is better with STJ good - let's hope he can right the ship. Not looking good right now at all.

 

[dennismenace]

Way to inspire the team for a Big East Tournament run to get into the NCAA Tournament by calling the players he brought in slow and soft.

Yes. I thought I was seeing things. He told about 90% of the existing SJ players to just go into the portal before he even got there because they were not going to measure up to his standards!!!
Worst of all is he is critical of their ability rather than their performance. Mostly, that's on him. He picked them except for Soriano and a few others. Lack of speed? How did he tell Posh Alexander to hit the road?

Sounds as if he is having a psychotic breakdown. Is he setting the stage for quitting or is he telling everyone to leave again? Whew!

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[dennismenace]

He wanted it all, overnight That “overnight” is realistically gonna take 2-4 seasons even with the portal. He’s old and doesn’t have the patience for that. He’ll be gone when kids don’t go there even with the NIL and portal.

Iona spotlight not big enough for Rick. SJ team not responsive enough for Rick. Um, where can I go next year where my ego can fit.

 

[djct1999]

The only surprising thing is it took this long for Rick to be Rick.

 

[uconngb]

Am I misremembering, or didn't he bring in a hand picked roster when he arrived? So now he's saying he picked guys who can't play?

No, he's saying his ASSISTANTS picked players that can't play

 

[Waquoit]

Hurley regularly rips his players to shreds during the game. He was ripping the defense apart ("wet tissue" comment) to the media like a month ago, and has no problem saying that we were playing like trash in halftime and post-game comments. But it works, because Hurley built the culture and expectations that allows that type of thing to work

It's different, he was ripping the players collectively not insulting them individually by name.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Luis, Daniss and Naheim are all meeting or exceeding expectations

 

[giddyup]

Rick is a slick slime ball but the guy knows how to coach. He knows exactly what he’s doing and why he’s doing it.

 

[mauconnfan]

Incredibly awful mental approach to giving your team confidence to make a run at the end of the season. This one’s easy from a fans standpoint, Rick is all about Rick here. “I’m a great coach but even someone as good as me can’t win with this group of guys. I’m not a magician just a HOF coach”

Pitiful they should take him out of the Hall for this response to his team.