Pitino: May Madness

[Fatroony5]

Vaccine or not the NCAA will do everything in its power to have a tournament and that likely means a bubble.

 

[Penfield]

Yes, Ohio State will make the playoffs.

In basketball if you have one positive test the team misses 2 weeks or about 4 games. Then what happens if another kid on the team tests positive? What happens when their next opponents have positive tests? When do they make up the games or do they even bother? There is no plan to execute the season properly. They are just winging it. Sure we can watch some basketball but is the experience going to be enjoyable?

I want Bouk and co to get a fair shot this year. If that means waiting until March or April to start I'm totally fine with that.

 

[huskiesNhoos]

Even an iota of college basketball will be immensely enjoyable. I fully expect it to be a cluster f of a season but I'll certainly watch every bit of it I can

Now do I think they should have a season...whole other discussion

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

In basketball if you have one positive test the team misses 2 weeks or about 4 games.

I don't know the science on this, so it's a non-loaded question:

What's the difference in probability of catching a true positive case in the following two situations, both where a player is ID'd as a close contact of someone who tests positive:
- Close contacts quarantine and test daily for 7 days
- Close contacts quarantine and test at the end of 14 days

Is the full 14 days a matter of reducing risk by a miniscule percent or is it that in scenario 1 you're ~50% likely to detect a positive and scenario 2 you're 99.999999% likely?

The problem with getting a season in seems to be the quarantine for close contacts.

How is it that football is going off right now when some players and coaches test positive but the whole team does not shut down?

 

[InTheRed]

I can see both sides of these arguments but what I dont get is why having no fans able to be at games has anything to do with it. If basketball games never had fans at them, every kid would still love playing. Fans in the stands is about us, not them.

 

[Penfield]

I don't know the science on this, so it's a non-loaded question:

What's the difference in probability of catching a true positive case in the following two situations, both where a player is ID'd as a close contact of someone who tests positive:
- Close contacts quarantine and test daily for 7 days
- Close contacts quarantine and test at the end of 14 days

Is the full 14 days a matter of reducing risk by a miniscule percent or is it that in scenario 1 you're ~50% likely to detect a positive and scenario 2 you're 99.999999% likely?

The problem with getting a season in seems to be the quarantine for close contacts.

How is it that football is going off right now when some players and coaches test positive but the whole team does not shut down?

The virus has a 5-14 day incubation period. I believe the logic behind shutting down the team for 2 weeks is to prevent spread to other team mates and then give adequate time for the virus to develope before giving the team the ok to restart activities

It's the rule of the conference. That's how it's going to work

As for football are you taking NFL or college. I think it might have something to do with not have additional positive tests during a certain period

 

[freescooter]

Most of those questions have been answered.

Fauci says he expects the first Covid-19 vaccinations to begin "towards the latter part of December, rather than the early part of December."

Initially, there won't be enough vaccine for everyone. The highest priority groups, which include health care workers, the elderly, and people with underlying medical conditions, will get the vaccine first.

"I think that everybody else will start to get vaccinated towards the end of April," Fauci said. "And that will go into May, June, July. It will take a couple of months to do."

Which makes May Madness even more logical. Though there are still a number of questions about how to distribute vaccines such as Pfizer’s that require super cold conditions and how long the benefits actually last. And how to convince the 50-60% of the general public that it is safe.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Which makes May Madness even more logical. Though there are still a number of questions about how to distribute vaccines such as Pfizer’s that require super cold conditions and how long the benefits actually last. And how to convince the 50-60% of the general public that it is safe.

Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint (Published 2020)

Blood samples from recovered patients suggest a powerful, long-lasting immune response, researchers reported.

www.nytimes.com

Some excellent research suggests immunity will last for a *very* extended period of time and yearly vaccinations will be unlikely.

tl;dr - patients who recovered 8 months ago have very little diminished immunity. Runs in line with folks who recovered from 2003 SARS outbreak, another coronavirus, who still have T-cells 17 years later.

Given Moderna's vaccine only requires normal freezer storage, that'll ease distribution capabilities. I strongly believe that if the general public sees these vaccines are highly effective, aren't necessary yearly, and will greatly speed the return to mask-less and social distance-less life that the vast majority will get vaccinated.

Add on top of that, you can bet that once an approved vaccine is available to anyone who wants one it'll be a requirement to do things like send your child to school, enroll in college, work in an office, perhaps even as much as go to a concert or sporting event.

The science here is strong. Public officials and scientists need to do a much better job of clearly informing the public and presenting the research than they did in the spring on things like the efficacy of social distancing and mask-wearing.

Bat down these nonsense claims of "we've never developed a vaccine this fast!!!!" with facts. There's no other time in human history that we've *tried* to develop a vaccine this fast with this level of urgency. That'd be like if they said in the middle of the 20th century "Well, no one's ever been to the moon. So I guess it's not possible and I think anyone who says we can is a liar."

 

[Ha Who]

Keep an eye on concierge doctors cutting the line

 

[superjohn]

Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint (Published 2020)

Blood samples from recovered patients suggest a powerful, long-lasting immune response, researchers reported.

www.nytimes.com

Some excellent research suggests immunity will last for a *very* extended period of time and yearly vaccinations will be unlikely.

tl;dr - patients who recovered 8 months ago have very little diminished immunity. Runs in line with folks who recovered from 2003 SARS outbreak, another coronavirus, who still have T-cells 17 years later.

Given Moderna's vaccine only requires normal freezer storage, that'll ease distribution capabilities. I strongly believe that if the general public sees these vaccines are highly effective, aren't necessary yearly, and will greatly speed the return to mask-less and social distance-less life that the vast majority will get vaccinated.

Add on top of that, you can bet that once an approved vaccine is available to anyone who wants one it'll be a requirement to do things like send your child to school, enroll in college, work in an office, perhaps even as much as go to a concert or sporting event.

The science here is strong. Public officials and scientists need to do a much better job of clearly informing the public and presenting the research than they did in the spring on things like the efficacy of social distancing and mask-wearing.

Bat down these nonsense claims of "we've never developed a vaccine this fast!!!!" with facts. There's no other time in human history that we've *tried* to develop a vaccine this fast with this level of urgency. That'd be like if they said in the middle of the 20th century "Well, no one's ever been to the moon. So I guess it's not possible and I think anyone who says we can is a liar."

Great post. The anti-vaxx loonies and the anti-gov't loonies will realize they won't really be a part of society unless they get vaccinated.

 

[UconnFanDC]

I'm sure this could complicate TV running into NBA playoffs, and other spring college sports and graduations.