Peter King on the Pats and Hernandez

[intlzncster]

If you believe that would have been the case, then how do you explain Janorris Jenkins going in the 2nd round or Tyrann Mathieu going in the 3rd? Both were drafted higher than Hernandez had bigger and more red flags. Both have tattoos, also. Are the Rams and Cardinals both giving implied approval for any future crimes these two may commit?

Out of curiosity, I wonder how many players in the NFL DON'T have tatoos. I imagine the number is less than 20%.

 

[freescooter]

I think that at some point, if a good college player isn't under active investigation, under arrest, convicted somebody oill draft him. Hernandez was a first round talent who the Pats signed in round 4. It is highly doubtful that he would have remained undrafted, and even kf he had, that no one would have signed him as a free agent.

 

[intlzncster]

I think that at some point, if a good college player isn't under active investigation, under arrest, convicted somebody oill draft him. Hernandez was a first round talent who the Pats signed in round 4. It is highly doubtful that he would have remained undrafted, and even kf he had, that no one would have signed him as a free agent.

Reportedly, the Baltimore Ravens were going to nab him shortly thereafter. They had wanted Gronk previously too.

 

[uconnric]

Reportedly, the Baltimore Ravens were going to nab him shortly thereafter. They had wanted Gronk previously too.

Obviously some teams value a player's character more than others.

 

[businesslawyer]

As someone who dislikes the Patriots, may I state that this is a totally silly conversation.

 

[formerlurker]

Seeing as how you could find a way to ruin a Kate Upton blowj#b , nothing you say is silly.

 

[Pudge]

I simply don't think, in fairness to all, the Patriots or any other organization could conceive the horror that is alleged to Aaron Hernandez. If this story is true, we have at least 3 shootings for some "so-called" breach of something. And that fight that he caused damage at 17 in Gainesville. This isn't Randy Moss. Not PacMan Jones. But ... we just had a Hall of Fame career in Ray Lewis.

In our nice suburban towns and small CT lives, this is out of the mind stuff. Movies. And for the Krafts and Belichick, I am sure this is just far out of their idea of the possible. Not anymore.

 

[intlzncster]

I simply don't think, in fairness to all, the Patriots or any other organization could conceive the horror that is alleged to Aaron Hernandez. If this story is true, we have at least 3 shootings for some "so-called" breach of something. And that fight that he caused damage at 17 in Gainesville. This isn't Randy Moss. Not PacMan Jones. But ... we just had a Hall of Fame career in Ray Lewis.

In our nice suburban towns and small CT lives, this is out of the mind stuff. Movies. And for the Krafts and Belichick, I am sure this is just far out of their idea of the possible. Not anymore.

Yup, that's why I've even gone far enough to state that, not only is it outside of the purview of the Patriots, but of the NFL as well. The NFL has tons of problems with criminality, to be sure, but this is so far outside the ball park of what society and the human race deems acceptable, that you can't hold those organizations accountable in this particular instance. This is on AH and AH alone. It's not a matter of changing policy, some people are just not right (eg Tsarnaev brothers).

 

[Adesmar123]

Out of curiosity, I wonder how many players in the NFL DON'T have tatoos. I imagine the number is less than 20%.

I'm thinking more like 1%.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

Brings up a few valid and probably obvious points.

Bottom line is that seeing some of the Pats' security staff get walking papers wouldn't be unforeseeable.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nf...dez-monday-morning-quarterback/#ixzz2ZAmsPFSj

1. If I were New England owner Robert Kraft and coach Bill Belichick, I'd be asking my security people (and I am sure these questions are being asked now), "Are you telling me you knew nothing about Aaron Hernandez off the field? You're telling me your moles in the Boston Police didn't tell you anything about Hernandez a year ago, when a car Hernandez rented was the car of interest in a double murder in Boston? You're telling me you never heard anything about Hernandez and the people he was associating with -- because he sure wasn't hanging with Tom Brady?'' I know the Patriots can't tail 53 guys. Or one. But the organization seemed to have dropped all suspicion in the last couple of years about a guy so many teams questioned before the 2010 draft -- a guy who had very few close friends on the team, and who always seemed to go his own way when he left the facility. Krafthas to know that if Belichick is going to continue to draft from college football's All-Risk Team, he'd better improve the quality of private eyes he employs.​

Later in the article, King mentions that Belichick decisions are rarely, if ever, challenged by NE staff. Still, King, in directing blame at NE security types, is too forgiving as it relates to the Kraft/Belichick "over-ride" button. Of course a writer covering the NFL won't go far if he questions the acts of powerful owners and coaches.

 

[intlzncster]

Later in the article, King mentions that Belichick decisions are rarely, if ever, challenged by NE staff. Still, King, in directing blame at NE security types, is too forgiving as it relates to the Kraft/Belichick "over-ride" button. Of course a writer covering the NFL won't go far if he questions the acts of powerful owners and coaches.

Pretty sure Peter King, whether you like him or not, has gone plenty far doing what he does. Nothing to worry about for him. He'll have the same access no matter what.

 

[dsturdy5]

Pretty sure Peter King, whether you like him or not, has gone plenty far doing what he does. Nothing to worry about for him. He'll have the same access no matter what.

Actually he has stated that since his all out vendetta against the Patriots during 2007, the Patriots have restricted his access.

 

[intlzncster]

Actually he has stated that since his all out vendetta against the Patriots during 2007, the Patriots have restricted his access.

Awesome! Did not know that.

So it's not a factor here then....

 

[dsturdy5]

Later in the article, King mentions that Belichick decisions are rarely, if ever, challenged by NE staff. Still, King, in directing blame at NE security types, is too forgiving as it relates to the Kraft/Belichick "over-ride" button. Of course a writer covering the NFL won't go far if he questions the acts of powerful owners and coaches.

I'd like to know where he learned this because in reading Patriot Reign, The War Room, Education of a Coach, and The Blue Print all of the authors have said that BB, while he keeps a small room on draft day, always asks for people to stand up and question him. The only time he did not listen to others, and he has admitted to this mistake, was when he drafted Maroney and Chad Jackson. BB liked LM's elusiveness and was sold on Jackson's versatility. Neither worked out. However, people can keep listening to Peter King and Mike Florio over people who were actually in the draft room like the authors of the above mentioned books.

 

[dsturdy5]

Clearly the Colts and Steelers have no one checking "red flags" of players they bring in.

LINK


And then there is this:

It is the third time in less than a month that a Colts player has run into off-the-field trouble.
In June, the league announced receiver LaVon Brazill was suspended four games for violating the league's substance-abuse policy. And earlier this month, backup safety Joe Lefeged was arrested in Washington on a gun possession charge.

LINK

Who will be held accountable in Colt land? C'mon Peter King, Mike Florio, Albert Breer, and the rest of the NFL media. Call these guys "Raiders mid-west".

 

[dsturdy5]

Have the Colts no one checking the background of their players?

Bill Polian MUST answer questions about that guy.
Raiders Mid-West I tell ya.

National Football Post

 

[intlzncster]

Have the Colts no one checking the background of their players?

Bill Polian MUST answer questions about that guy.
Raiders Mid-West I tell ya.

National Football Post

Bill Polian managed to draft some garbage characters with TWO franchises....

Guess he didn't learn much on the first go round (Rae Carruth...#1 pick...cough...cough).

 

[dsturdy5]

Bill Polian managed to draft some garbage characters with TWO franchises....

Guess he didn't learn much on the first go round (Rae Carruth...#1 pick...cough...cough).

Yet he's on BSPN blaming the Patriots for AH. The power of the media to form the narrative is quite disheartening.

 

[dsturdy5]

Things could be getting even worse for AH.

Grand Jury to hear evidence of Hernandez's involvement in 2012 double murder