Per Dennis Dodd Tweet, SEC team 14 is...

[brasssbonanzaa]

Either Mizzou or WVU.

http://twitter.com/#!/dennisdoddcbs

Take it for what it's worth. Also, multiple sites reporting SEC presidents are meeting tonight. Some say to vote on A&M, some others say it may be to decide if they want to put the brakes on expansion.

 

[husky10]

i thought i would see virginia tech before wvu but wvu still seems like a solid fit to me

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

not solid for the big east. if wvu leaves, i'd be on the phone with the acc or b1g right away.

 

[BlueMAB]

Clemson/FSU make more sense than either. Not buying it.

 

[auggie22]

i'd hate to lose wvu, but would be genuinely happy for them and their newfound largesse. they deserve it. i guess that is how you know it wasn't meant to be (conference rivals, that is) - i can tell you right now I would be scratching my eyes out if this was RU or Cuse.

 

[CL82]

If asked, it would be tough for them to say no. Although I like the 'eers, I'm rooting for Missouri as I don't particularly want them as a part of conference.

 

[uconnbaseball]

The SEC wants new media markets, which is why they want WVU. It would be a good fit for both parties.

 

[Vowelguy]

Clemson/FSU make more sense than either. Not buying it.

Clemson brings little to the table.
FSU is a good choice, but they bring no new markets and face resistance from Fla.

I said all along WV was the place the SEC should look. It wouldnt surprise me in the slightest if that's their pick.

 

[noeynox]

Last year, all this chatter and scenarios made me nervous for UConn's future. Now, after everyone of these I'm like, eh, we'll see what happens. WVU has been this league's anchor, but whatever. All I care about is UConn's place at the table when the dust settles.

 

[RS9999X]

• Will Texans watch as our most precious resources—the great minds of the next generation—are exported to new conference institutions?

-----from the Baylor website touting the need for Texas Football to stay together.

 

[NHUConnfan]

Exactly what market does WVU bring in - for those who argue that they bring in a market. Last time I checked, Pittsburgh vehemently despised WVU, and that's the closest "major" media market there.

 

[PAGS]

Whatever happens it's gonna be a crazy rest of the year....the ACC and Big East are going to be fighting for existence. Kansas and K State are already talking (per the NY Post) to the Big East, maybe even Mizzou. It looks as if the SEC and Pac 24 are going to take their pick of the prime and leave the rest up for grabs. If you're looking for entertainment check out twitter....rumors are crazy!

BUCKLE UP......IT'S GONNA BE A CRAZY RIDE THESE NEXT FEW MONTHS!!!

 

[Vowelguy]

Exactly what market does WVU bring in - for those who argue that they bring in a market. Last time I checked, Pittsburgh vehemently despised WVU, and that's the closest "major" media market there.

Puts the SEC on the fringe of the Northeast market, DC especially.

And the issue is not just WV. Everything about the SEC gets more play, more coverage in the area.

 

[NHUConnfan]

Puts the SEC on the fringe of the Northeast market, DC especially.

And the issue is not just WV. Everything about the SEC gets more play, more coverage in the area.

So, you're trying to convince me that WVU carries a Northeast market? Including DC - one of the few prominently pro sports towns in America? I find this argument incredibly weak. WVU doesn't add anything to the SEC other than a decent football team on occasional years, disregarding the current scandals going on there.

 

[Dann]

this throws the "be teams standing together and getting $ plus acc left overs" idea out the window. i hope were not going to be left out of the super 4, but at the same time i would hate a league that had bc/miami/wake/duke in it. that would be a joke of a league already...

 

[zls44]

http://twitter.com/#!/dennisdoddcbs/status/111259831389786113

College football just graduated college and it doesn't have a job.

 

[junglehusky]

Well... it's not that huge of a surprise. There were reports that FSU and Clemson were out because the SEC wouldn't add schools from states already represented by their membership.

If they have to go, I will miss those crazy couch-burning hillbillies.

 

[Dann]

does the South Eastern Conf change its name to the South & Eastern Conf. and go for the northeast in a 20 team conf with a east and west setup. go for 2 auto bcs bids etc etc...

 

[BlueMAB]

Clemson brings little to the table.
FSU is a good choice, but they bring no new markets and face resistance from Fla.

I said all along WV was the place the SEC should look. It wouldnt surprise me in the slightest if that's their pick.

Waylon said it elsewhere and I agree with his take, the SEC can lock up the south (and really hurt the nACC in the process) by taking FSU and Clemson. I agree that WVU makes sense, but I think Clemson/FSU make more sense.

 

[HarryAGampel]

From what I've gathered when in DC, Virginia Tech seems to be the most represented team. I'm surprised by how many more VaTech shirts I see than Virginia or Maryland.

 

[Vowelguy]

Waylon said it elsewhere and I agree with his take, the SEC can lock up the south (and really hurt the nACC in the process) by taking FSU and Clemson. I agree that WVU makes sense, but I think Clemson/FSU make more sense.

I have a problem with taking teams just to weaken another conference. If you think they're a good fit for your conference, fine; but if you're doing it to destroy another conference, then I have a problem. (Yes, ACC, I'm talking about you.)

I fail to see how Clemson does much for the SEC.

 

[NHUConnfan]

I have a problem with taking teams just to weaken another conference. If you think they're a good fit for your conference, fine; but if you're doing it to destroy another conference, then I have a problem. (Yes, ACC, I'm talking about you.)

I fail to see how Clemson does much for the SEC.

Rivalry for South Carolina...

 

[Vowelguy]

Rivalry for South Carolina...

You've made my point for me.

 

[husky10]

I heard that the SEC is not going to add a school from a state already represented by current SEC schools so lets drop Clemson and FSU for a minute. I'd assume that the choice would be between VaTech and WVU. VaTech adds DC but the SEC is so national already they don't need to add markets because people are already tuning in from every market. There has not been a huge difference between the VaTech and WVU football programs over the last few years and the WVU basketball program is head and shoulders above VaTech basketball. I know football drive expansion but adding WVU finally gives the SEC someone to compliment Kentucky in basketball.

 

[NHUConnfan]

I heard that the SEC is not going to add a school from a state already represented by current SEC schools so lets drop Clemson and FSU for a minute. I'd assume that the choice would be between VaTech and WVU. VaTech adds DC but the SEC is so national already they don't need to add markets because people are already tuning in from every market. There has not been a huge difference between the VaTech and WVU football programs over the last few years and the WVU basketball program is head and shoulders above VaTech basketball. I know football drive expansion but adding WVU finally gives the SEC someone to compliment Kentucky in basketball.

If you're going to say that WVU basketball is head and shoulders above VaTech basketball, then I'd say VaTech football is head and shoulders above WVU football.

 

[Dann]

how is ncst not being looked at? blah blah were with the ncaa to death, they would be a huge market for the sec

 

[UConnRock]

What Virginia and Missouri have going for them is that there would be no in-state political battle which is something the SEC would have to deal with for Virginia Tech, or NC State. Additionally they wouldn't be stepping on their own toes in terms of recruiting and TV markets like they would with FSU and Clemson.

My contention all along is that NC State would be the perfect fit for the SEC in terms of border rivals (South Carolina and Tennessee), a large football market that is somewhat untapped (Duke is Duke and UNC tried but got caught cheating). An SEC team in Raleigh/Durham would totally sap the energy out of ACC football in the area. I just don't know what the politics would be like in North Carolina to allow this to happen.

 

[mattp]

i think people are overstating some of the politics. VA "forced" the ACC to take VTech not because they think their two BCS state schools have to be in the same conference, but b/c they thought the BE would die leaving VTech out in the cold. i don't think VA legislature would make the SEC take an all or none deal with UVA/Vtech unless they thought the ACC's existence was threatened, which i don't think it would be. if the SEC had decided just to take VTech 10 years ago, i don't think the Virginia gov't would have even gotten involved.

 

[uc1974]

The politics are not being overstated. My family has been in Va. politics and state government since before the Revolution. Currently, I have a cousin who is a state senator from a district that does not include UVA or VT. He tells me that the Commonwealth legislature would have a major fit and would seriously attempt to bar any move by VT without UVA. Many legislators want the schools treated equally and having one in the SEC and one in the ?ACC won't do. As for North Carolina I have no particular insight but would imagine there would be some rumpus as well . SC didn't protest when USC left the ACC some 40 years ago but it was for different reasons and actually left USC screwed for many years until the SEC came calling.

 

[Jax Husky]

The WVU talk is just chatter. It is going to be Missouri. If they eventually go to 16, then who knows.

 

[buckley503]

I heard that the SEC is not going to add a school from a state already represented by current SEC schools so lets drop Clemson and FSU for a minute. I'd assume that the choice would be between VaTech and WVU. VaTech adds DC but the SEC is so national already they don't need to add markets because people are already tuning in from every market. There has not been a huge difference between the VaTech and WVU football programs over the last few years and the WVU basketball program is head and shoulders above VaTech basketball. I know football drive expansion but adding WVU finally gives the SEC someone to compliment Kentucky in basketball.

I guess those 2 Florida National Championships a few years ago in hoops doesn't impress you?

 

[upstater]

The SEC wants new media markets, which is why they want WVU. It would be a good fit for both parties.

That media market is excellent. If you're a furniture dealer from SEC territory, this is great news for you.

 

[freescooter]

I guess those 2 Florida National Championships a few years ago in hoops doesn't impress you?

And that, my man, puts the whole thing in perspective...in other words, "the national championships in what???"

 

[RS9999X]

The Missouri and WVU boards are reliving the Civil War. They look North for education and culture but have more in common with the deep South in economics.

Playing and traveling to Mississippi is almost a deal breaker in itself . It's clearly a money deal. There's no other upside. WVU and Missouri may never see another BCS game again. Play in the BE and they would be BCS kings! And never travel to Mississippi

 

[upstater]

I heard that the SEC is not going to add a school from a state already represented by current SEC schools so lets drop Clemson and FSU for a minute. I'd assume that the choice would be between VaTech and WVU. VaTech adds DC but the SEC is so national already they don't need to add markets because people are already tuning in from every market. There has not been a huge difference between the VaTech and WVU football programs over the last few years and the WVU basketball program is head and shoulders above VaTech basketball. I know football drive expansion but adding WVU finally gives the SEC someone to compliment Kentucky in basketball.

This makes no sense to me. Add a teeny market like Morgantown and WV or else a national brand that will attract eyeballs such as FSU?

Hmmm, tough decision?

 

[freescooter]

The Missouri and WVU boards are reliving the Civil War. They look North for education and culture but have more in common with the deep South in economics.

Playing and traveling to Mississippi is almost a deal breaker in itself . It's clearly a money deal. There's no other upside. WVU and Missouri may never see another BCS game again. Play in the BE and they would be BCS kings! And never travel to Mississippi

The Civil War thing might be fact, but as far as being BCS kings, since the revised Big East was established, West Virginia has been to 2 BCS games, same as Cincinatti and only one more than Louisville and UCONN. Not sure that makes you a king...maybe a earl or a viscount or something but hardly a king. Somewhere the idea that the big East is a cakewalk is being bought by even its own fans. Whiel a dominant team seems to be lacking, withthe excption of last year, the league has had a solid non-conference record and a solid bowl record even last season. It would I think be good for the league if a dominant team emerged that annually would be viewed as a national power.

 

[upstater]

The Civil War thing might be fact, but as far as being BCS kings, since the revised Big East was established, West Virginia has been to 2 BCS games, same as Cincinatti and only one more than Louisville and UCONN. Not sure that makes you a king...maybe a earl or a viscount or something but hardly a king. Somewhere the idea that the big East is a cakewalk is being bought by even its own fans. Whiel a dominant team seems to be lacking, withthe excption of last year, the league has had a solid non-conference record and a solid bowl record even last season. It would I think be good for the league if a dominant team emerged that annually would be viewed as a national power.

When Miami was good, and even when VT was around, all the other conference fans ripped on the BE for being weak and for Miami getting a free pass. It wasn't pretty. Not much has changed.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Very true about the media and public perception of the big east in the 1990s.

An all sports divsion 1-A conference that makes sense scheduling wise (i.e. a manageable number of teams) in the northeast and a college football playoff system between conference champions. That's where I hope all this ends. In my lifetime. And with that, I will not touch again this entire football season, the decades long basketball vs. football clash for power in the intercollegiate athletic landscape of the eastern united states.

There's a game on Saturday, in Tennessee, and we need our dogs to kick the crap out of some Commodores. Not even sure what Commodore is, and it doesn't really matter. We can find out later.

 

[gars44]

When Miami was good, and even when VT was around, all the other conference fans ripped on the BE for being weak and for Miami getting a free pass. It wasn't pretty. Not much has changed.

right. the term "Big Least" was coined during Miami's dominance in the BE.

 

[Vowelguy]

right. the term "Big Least" was coined during Miami's dominance in the BE.

I first heard "Big Least" before Miami -- it was 1988 at the HCC, opening rounds of the NCAA. Several Big East teams lost that weekend & someone made that comment to me (I was wearing a Big East sweatshirt).

 

[Richmondhsky]

The politics are not being overstated. My family has been in Va. politics and state government since before the Revolution. Currently, I have a cousin who is a state senator from a district that does not include UVA or VT. He tells me that the Commonwealth legislature would have a major fit and would seriously attempt to bar any move by VT without UVA. Many legislators want the schools treated equally and having one in the SEC and one in the ?ACC won't do. As for North Carolina I have no particular insight but would imagine there would be some rumpus as well . SC didn't protest when USC left the ACC some 40 years ago but it was for different reasons and actually left USC screwed for many years until the SEC came calling.

The VA Commonwealth Legislators will have nothing to do with any decision involving VA Tech to the SEC. I am right smack in the middle of Tech and UVA land with access to boosters and I can assure you that IF VaTech wanted to go to the SEC (which is not a given) UVA and the corresponding legislatures would go along. No way in HELL would UVA want to be any part of the SEC. Frankly, they look down their noses at the thought of UCONN joining the ACC. The SEC is the academic anti Christ according to them. Right or wrong, that is the landscape.

 

[uc1974]

That's not what I'm told, Richmond. Of course my cousin is a W&L grad and a General must know nothing.

 

[Richmondhsky]

That's not what I'm told, Richmond. Of course my cousin is a W&L grad and a General must know nothing.

Funny...the two schools couldn't be more different as are there fan base. Tech fans and program could fit with the SEC...UVA would NEVER align itself with the SEC for academic reasons etc. I don't believe based on what I have heard, that Tech goes to the SEC right now. That may all change given the dollars involved but they fought very hard...lobbied even harder with the legislature to get into the ACC. The only scenario that might move them would involve the implosion of the ACC. Look at the level of competition in the ACC....Tech is virtually guaranteed to run table each and every year.

 

[uc1974]

We're on the same page, Richmond. I know UVA and know they would never consider the SEC even for millions. The only point I was making is that there are people in Va. Govt (legislature and executive branch types) that would not look kindly on a split of the two schools. Could VT pull it off anyway. Sure. My cousin doesn't care but there are a few that do. I'm old enough to remember when UVA was a school for gentlemen drinkers in the 1950's and they were regularly pummeled by everyone in fb. BTW, I grew up in my youth in Lynchburg.