Pennsylvania governor to sue NCAA over Sandusky sanctions.

[Palatine]

Yikes. These guys will never get it.

 

[uconndogs]

I'm sure he's doing this because there is enormous political pressure to do so. Which only further demonstrates how powerful the Penn. State football culture is in that state and how the whole episode could happen in the first place. To a point now where it is just sad,

 

[coachcap]

Joe Paterno's legacy lives on. God forbid that our children be molested & irreversibly emotionally damaged. Penn State's Bowl elgibility must be defended at all costs!

 

[traitor71]

I'm not sure it's the bowl eligiblility so much as it is the idea that the NCAA can levy those fines against the university. This story was horrible all the way around and I am not sure the state of Pennsylvania should be doing this, but I do like anything that makes the NCAA squirm a bit.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I'm not sure it's the bowl eligiblility so much as it is the idea that the NCAA can levy those fines against the university. This story was horrible all the way around and I am not sure the state of Pennsylvania should be doing this, but I do like anything that makes the NCAA squirm a bit.

Rather than fining PSU, I had advocated that the NCAA just jettison PSU altogether for five years. Make them sit on the sidelines and then re-apply for admittance.

The NCAA is a voluntary organization that schools choose to be part of, and as member's, schools agree to the rules of the organization. However, the organization has the right to disassociate itself from any of the schools, should a a school choose to act in ways contradictory to the organization.

Losing the ability to be in the NCAA and B1G would cost PSU much more money and prestige than any fine.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Yeah, let's pile on Penn State. They are in the Big Ten. They will do just fine moving forward. UConn is in a big pile of crap . . . and yet we're gonna find fault in the fact that the university is simply trying to defend itself and keep from being swept onto the rocks by one deranged individual.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Yeah, let's pile on Penn State. They are in the Big Ten. They will do just fine moving forward. UConn is in a big pile of crap . . . and yet we're gonna find fault in the fact that the university is simply trying to defend itself and keep from being swept onto the rocks by one deranged individual.

Stop while you are behind and simply wrong. Anything else you post on this thread is digging yourself deeper in to a hole.

The sanctions that PSU agreed to wasn't because of the actions of one deranged individual. It was the institutional coverup by the head coach, AD, VP for school security, the president of the University and just about every person in position to stop the events from continuing to happen.

 

[SubbaBub]

Newly elected AG is asking why the AG at the time (current Guv) passed on the first accusation. They are in opposite parties, duh.

Suit claim is the NCAA has no right to fine the State of PA, though PSU and if they did, they have no right to use PA tax dollars to fund out of state programs.

No clue if this is a valid argument. But, both questions should be answered.

Why was the JS cleared by police/AG/social services in the first case? And did the NCAA exceed it's authority as an athletic organization in penalizing a state university outside the realm of athletics.

I doubt the agreement matters as it is pretty clear the NCAA was extorting the university under the threat of a death penalty.

Personally, I think both the law enforcement at the time and the NCAA need to be held accountable for their parts in all this.




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[TouchdownHusky]

Stop while you are behind and simply wrong. Anything else you post on this thread is digging yourself deeper in to a hole.

The sanctions that PSU agreed to wasn't because of the actions of one deranged individual. It was the institutional coverup by the head coach, AD, VP for school security, the president of the University and just about every person in position to stop the events from continuing to happen.

Penn State just simply went along with the NCAA. Now the political pressure in that state is hollaring out "Why?!?". Institutional coverup??? More like a lackadasical approach by people too busy with football.

That was Paterno's problem. He just didn't bother to follow through on what he had reported to make sure that this matter was being addressed. He could have thrown his weight around to make this matter important enough to investigate and address properly. He chose to be done with it so he could concentrate on the business at hand.

Penn State has had its problems, North Carolina has had its problems, USC has had its problems too. They still are positioned better than UConn going forward.

 

[freescooter]

If the state challenges this, I hope the NCAA claims it was a violation of the agreement and gives them the the death penalty for a few years. Stop the nonsense. Palatine is right, though. They just don't get it.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

If the state challenges this, I hope the NCAA claims it was a violation of the agreement and gives them the the death penalty for a few years. Stop the nonsense. Palatine is right, though. They just don't get it.

I'd suggest one addition to that penalty. . . give UConn it's membership in the BiG 10 instead. Then after the death penalty phase, Penn State can start as an independent or maybe they can hook up with Temple, East Carolina, Cincy, USF and UCF. That'd fix 'em.

 

[HartfordHank]

Suit claim is the NCAA has no right to fine the State of PA, though PSU and if they did, they have no right to use PA tax dollars to fund out of state programs.

No clue if this is a valid argument. But, both questions should be answered.

This is the only issue in which I believe they have a case. I am not sure what the NCAA bylaws are relative to possible fines for violations. I am guessing all of this is outside the bylaws and PA might have a chance. Participation in the NCAA is a whole different thing.

 

[huskymedic]

Corbett must have been drugged back in July...

"HARRISBURG, Pa., July 23, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Governor Tom Corbett today issued the following statement in response to the NCAA's penalties against Penn State University:

"The appalling actions of a few people have brought us once again into the national spotlight. We have taken a monster off the streets and while we will never be able to repair the injury done to these children, we must repair the damage to this university.

"Part of that corrective process is to accept the serious penalties imposed today by the NCAA on Penn State University and its football program.

"However, as governor, I am grateful that the NCAA did not impose the 'death penalty,' which would have also had a severe detrimental impact on the citizens of State College, Centre County and the entire Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

"I also want assurance from Penn State that no taxpayer dollars will be used to pay the $60 million fine imposed on the university today.

"Penn State is more than football -- it is a world-class university, providing an outstanding education to our young people in a variety of areas from scientific research and engineering, to the arts and humanities.

"I am confident that the university will move forward from this experience, complete the healing process and once again be worthy of its great reputation.''

Media contact: Kevin Harley , 717-783-1116

SOURCE Pennsylvania Office of the Governor​

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-against-penn-state-university-163442276.html

 

[SubbaBub]

I think the use of the $60M outside PA is what really set this off.

I am, however, not discounting the Gov trying to get out front of his own.negligence. JS never came off as a really clever individual. I find it difficult to believe he fooled all these professionals the first go around. Say what you want about the university, the actions of the local/state enforcement officials is very puzzling to me and needs a closer look.

FWIW, to those not following along, the Freeh Report has been taken apart for the wallpaper job it is. There is very little evidence in it that isn't hearsay.

I look to the three upcoming trials for more answers.

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[CTMike]

The fact that this is an antitrust lawsuit makes things infinitely more interesting, methinks. As much as I'd wish that Penn State would just shut up on all this... I'm hoping this exposes a lot of NCAA dirty laundry...

 

[HartfordHank]

The fact that this is an antitrust lawsuit makes things infinitely more interesting, methinks. As much as I'd wish that Penn State would just shut up on all this... I'm hoping this exposes a lot of NCAA dirty laundry...

Or does the NCAA pull back, reduce the sanctions, thus keeping the dirty laundry well hidden?

 

[SubbaBub]

Or does the NCAA pull back, reduce the sanctions, thus keeping the dirty laundry well hidden?

No, they defend it to the hilt and spend the next 40 years getting retribution against PSU. Think UNLV.

There were so many verbs that I could have used that are inappropriate in this case.

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[businesslawyer]

Stop while you are behind and simply wrong. .

Never stopped him before.

 

[BlueDogs]

Two dirty pigs fighting to protect their own bacon when both should go off to the slaughter house.

 

[Jimdish255]

OK no fine except costs incurred. And no new scholly's for 4 years. Happy now? Doesn't take away existing scholarships hurting current players. Then let's see how honest they are about the rationale.

 

[Uconnalliance]

Common sense something few people on this dying planet possess.wow all we need is Jerry springer.

 

[BlueDogs]

PSU should retain Irv Pinsky, the supreme schmuck who filed a 100 MM lawsuit in the Sandy Hook tragedy. It seems to fit in the same category of tasteless, insensitive and seemingly irresponsible litigation.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Never stopped him before.

You and Pinsky. Must be a Lawyer thing? Football posts Biz. Football.

 

[Kingspoint]

A little like comparing apples and oranges (no pun intended), but IMO, if PSU had fired JS outright like SU did to Boeheim's longtime assistant Bernie Fine, it's likely the NCAA would have seen PSU as 'doing the right thing' in getting rid of JS and stood by to see what other steps PSU would take to maintain their 'instituional control' of the situation. Instead they...well we all know most of the rest of the story. But back to SU. Unfortunately the statute of limitations has passed in Fine's case, even though the witnesses were considered credible, so now it's left to the court of public opinion to determine whether he's truly innocent like he claims. BTW, why did SU fire Fine before the case ran its course? Hmmm...how about they had previously renegotiated Hopkins contract, who is Boeheim's heir apparent when he retires, which obviously made Fine bitter and pobably a little difficult to deal with.

 

[zls44]

I do like that the lawsuit explicitly cites the way the NCAA basically ignored the UNC academic scandal.