2022 Recruiting: Peach Jam Stats

[husky429]

I got the stats from a buddy of mine who keeps them compiled for our 2022 recruits we're still after. Holy smokes please remember it's AAU and these guys are playing glorified playground ball. FG%s being low is kind of par for the course. My overall impression is that

Karaban = Can shoot the ball. Really well. Sometimes exceptionally well. The double header games were when he shot really poorly.



Karaban: Can shoot the ball really well. Sometimes exceptionally well. The doubleheaders he struggles with pretty badly. He needs to be in a structured offensive system to score better at the rim because of his athleticism not being a big plus.

Karaban vs City Rocks - 16/9/2. 4/13 FG. 2/5 3FG. 6/6 FT. 4 TO. 2 BLK. 1 STL.
Karaban vs Thad - 10/5/2. 1/9 FG. 0/6 3FG. 8/8 FT. 2 TO. 3 BLK. 0 STL.
Karaban vs Night Rydas - 26/3/1. 9/15 FG. 4/8 3FG. 4/4 FT. 2 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Karaban vs Family - 18/8/3. 6/9 FG. 4/4 3FG. 2/2 FT. 1 TO. 1 BLK. 2 STL.
Karaban vs Durant - 16/6/0. 7/18 FG. 1/8 3FG. 1/1 FT. 3 TO. 1 BLK. 0 STL.

17.2 PTS
6.2 REB
1.6 AST

2.4 TO
1.6 BLK
0.8 STL

28% FG (12.8 attempts per)
35% 3FG (6.2 attempts per)
100% FT (4.2 attempts per)

Floyd: Underrated by a lot. Effecient this weekend, doing a little bit of everything even on a stacked team.

Floyd vs BABC - 16/5/2. 6/11 FG. 2/6 3FG. 2/2 FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Floyd vs Pro Skills - 6/2/1. 2/7 FG. 0/1 3FG. 2/4 FT. 7 TO. 0 BLK. 2 STL.
Floyd vs Uplay - 14/3/4. 5/12 FG. 2/4 3FG. ⅔ FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 3 STL.
Floyd vs Seattle - 13/3/2. 4/11 FG. 1/4 3FG. 4/6 FT. 2 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Floyd vs Phenom - 15/2/5. 6/9 FG. 3/5 3FG. 0/2 FT. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Floyd vs SFG - 3/3/3. 1/9 FG. 0/2 3FG. 1/2 FT. 4 TO. 0 BLK. 3 STL.
Floyd vs Heat - 16/1/1. 5/10 FG. 2/4 3FG. 4/4 FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.

11.9 PTS
2.7 REB
2.6 AST

2.1 TO
0.1 BLK
1.4 STL

42% FG (8.6 attempts per)
38% 3FG (3.7 attempts per)
65% FT (3.3 attempts per)

Starling: He needs to go home an relax. This was not his weekend at all for shooting the rock. It happens. Looking much better at the rim and passing than I've seen before.

Starling vs Expressions - 19/1/0. 7/13 FG. 3/7 3FG. 2/2 FT. 4 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Starling vs The Family - 17/4/3. 5/13 FG. 0/5 3FG. 7/8 FT. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Starling vs Thad - 13/2/2. 6/19 FG. 1/11 3FG. 0/0 FT. 3 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Starling vs Durant - 26/2/2. 9/16 FG. 5/11 3FG. 2/3 FT. 5 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Starling vs NightRydas - 5/2/5. 2/9 FG. 1/7 3FG. 0/0 FT. 3 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.

16.0 PTS
2.2 REB
2.4 AST

3.4 TO
0.2 BLK
1.0 STL

41%FG (14.0 attempts per)
24% 3FG (8.2 attempts per)
85% FT (2.6 attempts per)

Anglin. The definition of underrated. Flamethrower from deep and passed it well this weekend with low TOs. Needs to get better at the rim and drawing fouls. Will be tough at his size.

Anglin vs Takeover - 17/3/5. 6/8 FG. 5/7 3FG. 0/0 FT. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 3 STL.
Anglin vs Livon - 12/1/1. 4/10 FG. 4/8 3FG. 0/0 FT. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Anglin vs Boo Williams - 6/3/1. 2/5 FG. 2/4 3FG. 0/0 FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Anglin vs Vegas - 8/1/3. 2/8 FG. 2/6 3FG. 2/2 FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Anglin vs JL3 - 11/2/2. 3/8 FG. 3/6 3FG. 2/3 FT. 3 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Anglin vs Griffin - 12/1/1. 5/10 FG. 2/6 3FG. 0/0 FT. 1 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Anglin vs CP3 - 10/3/5. 4/10 FG. 2/7 3FG. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL

10.9 PTS
2.0 REB
2.6 AST

1.4 TO
0.1 BLK
0.9 STL

47% FG (7.8 attempts per)
44% 3FG (6.3 attempts per)
80% FT (0.6 attempts per)

Rodgers: He's basically good at everything but cannot shoot. Doesn't even take jumpers. Love his athleticism, freak defender. Beast.

Rodgers vs Bates - 6/3/6. 3/4 FG. 0/0 3FG. 0/0 FT. 3 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Rodgers vs Mokan - 3/3/4. 1/2 FG. 0/0 3FG. 1/1 FT. 3 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Rodgers vs Stars - 10/6/3. 4/7 FG. 0/0 3FG. 2/2 FT. 1 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Rodgers vs Oakland - 8/11/4. 4/7 FG/ 0/0 3FG. 0/2 FT. 1 TO. 1 BLK. 2 STL.
Rodgers vs. PSA - 7/11/2. 2/2 FG. 0/0 3FG. 3/4 FT. 0 TO. 2 BLK. 1 STL.
Rodgers vs Houston - 7/5/1. 3/4 FG. 0/0 3FG. 1/2 FT. 1 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Rodgers vs All Ohio Red - 7/3/4. 3/6 FG. 0/0 3FG. 1/2 FT. 0 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.

6.9 PTS
6.0 REB
3.4 AST

1.3 TO
0.4 BLK
1.0 STL

71% FG (4.0 attempts per)
0% 3FG (0 attempts per)
61% FT (1.9 attempts per)

 

[UConnStats]

Here’s a link that shows all Peach Jam stats by player

https://www.theseasonticket.com/stats/division_instance/404988?subseason=726284&tab=division_instance_player_stats&tool=4386383

 

[husky429]

Here’s a link that shows all Peach Jam stats by player

https://www.theseasonticket.com/stats/division_instance/404988?subseason=726284&tab=division_instance_player_stats&tool=4386383

Ahh that's probably how he got them and sent to me. Good call.

 

[UConnStats]

Ahh that's probably how he got them and sent to me. Good call.

Been waiting all year for this lol. Really 2 years. But obviously it’s still just a small sample regardless

 

[husky429]

Been waiting all year for this lol. Really 2 years. But obviously it’s still just a small sample regardless

Everyone in AAU circles watches Peach Jam. It's a special event. The kids know it too... effort is way better than normal AAU. The kids just struggle with the lack of structure. These big national teams never practice because they pull kids from such a huge area to play.

 

[navery12]

It's like beating a dead horse but 0 3 point attempts in 7 games for a wing is really really tough. Pretty special group of recruits we're after though

 

[Huskyforlife]

28% FG sheesh, talk about a bad week...

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

Ty Rogers may not shoot from three but 71% from the field shows he's really efficient with the shots he takes. An overall smart high IQ kind of player. Bring him in, have him work on his jumper, and we could be talking about a lottery pick 3 and D guy who does a little bit of everything. I don't know any player who puts in the work to get a jump shot who can't nowadays.

 

[Mr. French]

I really, really like Anglin.

 

[Hungryhusky99]

I got the stats from a buddy of mine who keeps them compiled for our 2022 recruits we're still after. Holy smokes please remember it's AAU and these guys are playing glorified playground ball. FG%s being low is kind of par for the course. My overall impression is that

Karaban = Can shoot the ball. Really well. Sometimes exceptionally well. The double header games were when he shot really poorly.



Karaban: Can shoot the ball really well. Sometimes exceptionally well. The doubleheaders he struggles with pretty badly. He needs to be in a structured offensive system to score better at the rim because of his athleticism not being a big plus.

Karaban vs City Rocks - 16/9/2. 4/13 FG. 2/5 3FG. 6/6 FT. 4 TO. 2 BLK. 1 STL.
Karaban vs Thad - 10/5/2. 1/9 FG. 0/6 3FG. 8/8 FT. 2 TO. 3 BLK. 0 STL.
Karaban vs Night Rydas - 26/3/1. 9/15 FG. 4/8 3FG. 4/4 FT. 2 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Karaban vs Family - 18/8/3. 6/9 FG. 4/4 3FG. 2/2 FT. 1 TO. 1 BLK. 2 STL.
Karaban vs Durant - 16/6/0. 7/18 FG. 1/8 3FG. 1/1 FT. 3 TO. 1 BLK. 0 STL.

17.2 PTS
6.2 REB
1.6 AST

2.4 TO
1.6 BLK
0.8 STL

28% FG (12.8 attempts per)
35% 3FG (6.2 attempts per)
100% FT (4.2 attempts per)

Floyd: Underrated by a lot. Effecient this weekend, doing a little bit of everything even on a stacked team.

Floyd vs BABC - 16/5/2. 6/11 FG. 2/6 3FG. 2/2 FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Floyd vs Pro Skills - 6/2/1. 2/7 FG. 0/1 3FG. 2/4 FT. 7 TO. 0 BLK. 2 STL.
Floyd vs Uplay - 14/3/4. 5/12 FG. 2/4 3FG. ⅔ FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 3 STL.
Floyd vs Seattle - 13/3/2. 4/11 FG. 1/4 3FG. 4/6 FT. 2 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Floyd vs Phenom - 15/2/5. 6/9 FG. 3/5 3FG. 0/2 FT. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Floyd vs SFG - 3/3/3. 1/9 FG. 0/2 3FG. 1/2 FT. 4 TO. 0 BLK. 3 STL.
Floyd vs Heat - 16/1/1. 5/10 FG. 2/4 3FG. 4/4 FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.

11.9 PTS
2.7 REB
2.6 AST

2.1 TO
0.1 BLK
1.4 STL

42% FG (8.6 attempts per)
38% 3FG (3.7 attempts per)
65% FT (3.3 attempts per)

Starling: He needs to go home an relax. This was not his weekend at all for shooting the rock. It happens. Looking much better at the rim and passing than I've seen before.

Starling vs Expressions - 19/1/0. 7/13 FG. 3/7 3FG. 2/2 FT. 4 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Starling vs The Family - 17/4/3. 5/13 FG. 0/5 3FG. 7/8 FT. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Starling vs Thad - 13/2/2. 6/19 FG. 1/11 3FG. 0/0 FT. 3 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Starling vs Durant - 26/2/2. 9/16 FG. 5/11 3FG. 2/3 FT. 5 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Starling vs NightRydas - 5/2/5. 2/9 FG. 1/7 3FG. 0/0 FT. 3 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.

16.0 PTS
2.2 REB
2.4 AST

3.4 TO
0.2 BLK
1.0 STL

41%FG (14.0 attempts per)
24% 3FG (8.2 attempts per)
85% FT (2.6 attempts per)

Anglin. The definition of underrated. Flamethrower from deep and passed it well this weekend with low TOs. Needs to get better at the rim and drawing fouls. Will be tough at his size.

Anglin vs Takeover - 17/3/5. 6/8 FG. 5/7 3FG. 0/0 FT. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 3 STL.
Anglin vs Livon - 12/1/1. 4/10 FG. 4/8 3FG. 0/0 FT. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Anglin vs Boo Williams - 6/3/1. 2/5 FG. 2/4 3FG. 0/0 FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Anglin vs Vegas - 8/1/3. 2/8 FG. 2/6 3FG. 2/2 FT. 0 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Anglin vs JL3 - 11/2/2. 3/8 FG. 3/6 3FG. 2/3 FT. 3 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Anglin vs Griffin - 12/1/1. 5/10 FG. 2/6 3FG. 0/0 FT. 1 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Anglin vs CP3 - 10/3/5. 4/10 FG. 2/7 3FG. 2 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL

10.9 PTS
2.0 REB
2.6 AST

1.4 TO
0.1 BLK
0.9 STL

47% FG (7.8 attempts per)
44% 3FG (6.3 attempts per)
80% FT (0.6 attempts per)

Rodgers: He's basically good at everything but cannot shoot. Doesn't even take jumpers. Love his athleticism, freak defender. Beast.

Rodgers vs Bates - 6/3/6. 3/4 FG. 0/0 3FG. 0/0 FT. 3 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Rodgers vs Mokan - 3/3/4. 1/2 FG. 0/0 3FG. 1/1 FT. 3 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Rodgers vs Stars - 10/6/3. 4/7 FG. 0/0 3FG. 2/2 FT. 1 TO. 0 BLK. 0 STL.
Rodgers vs Oakland - 8/11/4. 4/7 FG/ 0/0 3FG. 0/2 FT. 1 TO. 1 BLK. 2 STL.
Rodgers vs. PSA - 7/11/2. 2/2 FG. 0/0 3FG. 3/4 FT. 0 TO. 2 BLK. 1 STL.
Rodgers vs Houston - 7/5/1. 3/4 FG. 0/0 3FG. 1/2 FT. 1 TO. 0 BLK. 1 STL.
Rodgers vs All Ohio Red - 7/3/4. 3/6 FG. 0/0 3FG. 1/2 FT. 0 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.

6.9 PTS
6.0 REB
3.4 AST

1.3 TO
0.4 BLK
1.0 STL

71% FG (4.0 attempts per)
0% 3FG (0 attempts per)
61% FT (1.9 attempts per)

Karaban FG % should be 42 not 28

 

[Ricker]

I think the overall story they tell is about right, but, there should be a real caveat on these stats. I watched a bunch of games and found obvious errors in every game I watched. A kid would get hot and hit a couple threes, I'd go to the live stats, the score would be right, the detail would add up to the score, and the kid I just saw hit 3's would not have any 3 point attempts. I still believe Ducharme had 10-12 3pt attempts in an early game and made 3, where the box score has him for 3 shots from the field total. Especially because the guy taking the shots was playing the point chasing in a zone wearing #12. I'll also point out that there would be 20-30 FT taken in aggregate by the 2 teams and the box scores would never show more than 8ish personal fouls between the 2 teams, an impossibility. I will say that there was no game where the fouls in the boxscore were even close to accurate. 2PFs might be the highest amount for any player in any game and I don't think the chances of that being accurate is very high.

When I get a minute I'd like to check Gavin Griffiths 3pt %. He shot well whenever I watched. Bowen as well but less in number but I bet 30% to 40%.

Judah Mintz was a player that impacted games. I wasn't really watching him, but everytime a play was made where I could see the player #, it turned out to be him.

Almost every highly ranked player had stinker games. Lively's last game he played a bunch and was 1-1 from the field with 2RB. Rodney Rice had 4 pts vs Karaban's team, (although he was active defensively). Lots of players we have coveted have lots of 'no show' games. It happens, and is the key reason you have to watch multiple games. Buzelis scored 5 points then 22pts 9RB with efficient shooting, go figure.

 

[husky429]

Karaban FG % should be 42 not 28

You're right. That's obviously a heck of a lot better than 28%.

Can't blame my buddy for that. I was doing most of the math quick in my head lol.

So yeah... Karaban, Floyd, and Anglin were the most effecient at the event of our guys that actually shoot. Good to see.

 

[husky429]

Updated Karaban's. Looks much better at 42% overall. Should've realized 28% was odd.

Karaban vs City Rocks - 16/9/2. 4/13 FG. 2/5 3FG. 6/6 FT. 4 TO. 2 BLK. 1 STL.
Karaban vs Thad - 10/5/2. 1/9 FG. 0/6 3FG. 8/8 FT. 2 TO. 3 BLK. 0 STL.
Karaban vs Night Rydas - 26/3/1. 9/15 FG. 4/8 3FG. 4/4 FT. 2 TO. 1 BLK. 1 STL.
Karaban vs Family - 18/8/3. 6/9 FG. 4/4 3FG. 2/2 FT. 1 TO. 1 BLK. 2 STL.
Karaban vs Durant - 16/6/0. 7/18 FG. 1/8 3FG. 1/1 FT. 3 TO. 1 BLK. 0 STL.

17.2 PTS
6.2 REB
1.6 AST

2.4 TO
1.6 BLK
0.8 STL

42% FG (12.8 attempts per)
35% 3FG (6.2 attempts per)
100% FT (4.2 attempts per)

 

[SportsFan88]

I know we aren’t in his recruitment but Shaedon Sharpe looked like the best player in ‘22 this past week. I also heard from one of my boys that Flipowski (spell check) is gonna end up a top 10 player in the class as well. We still got a shot with him? Danny sure does think so, I know Karaban is an attractive option but I still think we got a shot with Kyle Flip

 

[husky429]

I think the overall story they tell is about right, but, there should be a real caveat on these stats. I watched a bunch of games and found obvious errors in every game I watched. A kid would get hot and hit a couple threes, I'd go to the live stats, the score would be right, the detail would add up to the score, and the kid I just saw hit 3's would not have any 3 point attempts. I still believe Ducharme had 10-12 3pt attempts in an early game and made 3, where the box score has him for 3 shots from the field total. Especially because the guy taking the shots was playing the point chasing in a zone wearing #12. I'll also point out that there would be 20-30 FT taken in aggregate by the 2 teams and the box scores would never show more than 8ish personal fouls between the 2 teams, an impossibility. I will say that there was no game where the fouls in the boxscore were even close to accurate. 2PFs might be the highest amount for any player in any game and I don't think the chances of that being accurate is very high.

When I get a minute I'd like to check Gavin Griffiths 3pt %. He shot well whenever I watched. Bowen as well but less in number but I bet 30% to 40%.

Judah Mintz was a player that impacted games. I wasn't really watching him, but everytime a play was made where I could see the player #, it turned out to be him.

Almost every highly ranked player had stinker games. Lively's last game he played a bunch and was 1-1 from the field with 2RB. Rodney Rice had 4 pts vs Karaban's team, (although he was active defensively). Lots of players we have coveted have lots of 'no show' games. It happens, and is the key reason you have to watch multiple games. Buzelis scored 5 points then 22pts 9RB with efficient shooting, go figure.

At AAU games they hire kids to do stats, timer, etc. The problem is 1) the kids don't always know the rules (like pausing after the made FT when Anglin hit thebuzzer beater).

But also they give them too many jobs. It's too hard to so any one job right. Especially with a shot clock

 

[superjohn]

@husky429, sounds like you're really coming around on Floyd.

 

[husky429]

I know we aren’t in his recruitment but Shaedon Sharpe looked like the best player in ‘22 this past week. I also heard from one of my boys that Flipowski (spell check) is gonna end up a top 10 player in the class as well. We still got a shot with him? Danny sure does think so, I know Karaban is an attractive option but I still think we got a shot with Kyle Flip

The staff blew it not recruiting Flip early enough. He blew up 2 years ago at the NEPSAC tourney and we kind of were ambivalent because he isn't a freak athlete that Hurley likes. I would say this will probably be the first big recruiting error from these guys. After 3 years of a grest track record, it's fine.

Hopefully Karaban can make this our Ryan Gomes vs Okafor "I screwed up!" moment.

 

[husky429]

@husky429, sounds like you're really coming around on Floyd.

His shot keeps improving. That's the x-factor.

And I don't think he'll be a star year 1 or 2, maybe ever. But he has a very clear role in our system which isn't true about some other guys we've recruited. Tough defense at the point of attack, open 3s, straight line drives. He's what Hurley wanted Brendan Adams to be, but the kid just never learned to shoot.

 

[superjohn]

His shot keeps improving. That's the x-factor.

And I don't think he'll be a star year 1 or 2, maybe ever. But he has a very clear role in our system which isn't true about some other guys we've recruited. Tough defense at the point of attack, open 3s, straight line drives. He's what Hurley wanted Brendan Adams to be, but the kid just never learned to shoot.

If that's the case Hurley was putting wildly unfair expectations on Adams, Floyd is light years ahead of Brendan Adams athletically.

 

[HooperScooper]

Karaban FG % should be 42 not 28

42% does sound a lot better than 28%, doesn't it? Thanks for catching that.

I was wondering how his overall FG% could be 28% when his three point percentage was 35%.

 

[husky429]

Griffiths is going ballistic. Has 24 points with 6 minutes left.

 

[Ricker]

Misc Observations

An example of stat error. I was impressed by Chance Westry % stats of 71% from the floor until I noticed in 1 game he made 15 shots on only 8 attempts. That's what I call shooting.

3 pt shooting & misc FYI if Correct:
Justin Taylor 1 - 17 and only 63% FT
Justice Williams 3-15 but 26A vs 14TO is better than most
Derrick Lively 3-17 from 3 is a bunch of attempts 35 Blocks in 7 games
Chance Westry from 3 2 -14 (Listed 34A & 16TO is best I noticed so far)
Roddy Gayle 3 -10
Reid Ducharme supposedly 4 -17 from 3 (9 of 27 from 2pt!!)(10A 12TO!!)
JJ Starling 10 for 41 from 3 = 24% with 12A & 17TO
Denver Anglin 18 for 40 from 3 = 45% 17A & 10TO FT 4-5
Corey Floyd 10-26 from 3 = 38.5% 17A & 15TO FT 15-23 63%
Alex Karaban 11-31 from 3 = 35.5% FT 21-21 Far and Away Best in the Tourney
Kyle Filipowski 5-11 from 3 (surprised less attempts than Lively) 25A 12TO is excellent for a center

 

[husky429]

Schedule of the games our 2022s are in for the next few days, FYI.

Expressions:

• Wednesday 2:00 Court ¾
• Thursday 12:30 Court 2
• Friday 12:30 Court 2
• Friday 6:30 court 3

Rens

• Wednesday 3:30 court 3/4
• Thursday 6:30 court 3/4
• Friday 11:00 court 3/4
• Friday 5:00 court 3/4

Meanstreets

• Wednesday 8:00 Court 3/4
• Thursday 2:00 Court 6
• Friday 9:30 Court 3/4
• Friday 3:30 Court 3/4

Final

• Wednesday 2:00 court 5
• Thursday 12:30 court 1
• Friday 12:30 court 1
• Friday 6:30 court 3/4

City Rocks

• Wednesday 12:30 court 3/4
• Thursday 2:00 Court 1
• Friday 8:00 Court
• Friday 2:00 Court 1

 

[Mooch82]

It's kind of fun that literally all our 2022 targets (and a bunch of 2023) are playing in this tourney. Only thing that could make it better would be if DC was playing.

 

[husky429]

Rogers just put up 10/14/7 in a loss earlier today. Only 4/11 from the floor but I really love his passing at 6'6. Talented kid.