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delterp said:
interesting reading the thread. Edsall is a good guy with a genuine interest in the kids but the one thing that continues to stick out is those who out shine him get reduced. he loves the kid with no scholarship offers, someone he can mold, but in my opinion did or has done very little for the elite players and helped them rise to new heights. Also, Edsall is stepping on himself. As time as gone by, he's done more to alienate his fan base than invite and then you lose by 20+ weekly, but his tone never changes. It's always about the kids poor technique but never about the poor schemes. This 5 year marriage could not end soon enough.
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Shhhh. You can't say those things on this board.

Seriously though, those were the same issues some of us UConn fans had with him as well. Alienate the fan base: Check, always about lack of execution and never about a poor game plan: check. One post game conference he said we told the kids what to do they just didn't do it.

That said, I can't take anything away from what he accomplished here, but as the former player parent posted in this thread, he always gave the impression he was about himself first and foremost always.
 
My problem with RE was not so much how he left but that for the last five years or so he was here he could not wait to get out. He would have taken any job offered. And this was at a time in which UConn football was actually good and trending upwards, mostly because of him. It seemed like he hated being at UConn. Plus he has always been in love with himself.
 
Edsall has a reputation of being an average coach; but a higher character type of guy (with one big black eye - leaving UConn in the middle of the night) and someone who can help clean-up a program. Thus, I would not be at all surprised that he could land just up I-95 and stay in the B1G with Rutgers. Why -
  • Can help clean-up the mess at Rutgers, which is likely their #1 concern versus on-field performance
  • Likely can be had relatively on the cheap, which is good because Rutgers can't afford an established coach right now
  • Familiar with the B1G and the Northeast, including Jersey as he is from Pennsylvania and has coached at Syracuse, UConn, and Maryland
  • Knows how to work with inept AD, though Hermann may actually be worse that Hathaway as Hathaway was at least quiet while being incompetent while Hermann is anything but quiet and incompetent
 
Let's just appreciate the monumental job he took on, willingly, when he was hired by Lew Perkins. Yes, Trailers were his office. The locker room was 1960ish. It was NOT a good FCS infrastructure; let alone the idea that we would soon play BC, B1G schools, Georgia Tech (at Memorial), Notre Dame, Oklahoma. You want the number one reason why we lagged in the CR sweeps? We were simply unprepared for the decade of the Aughts.

Edsall built a program from scratch. And, when you contrast that with USF, UCF, Temple, Schiano ... he did a darn good job. However, his fate is what many of us would have predicted. The Terp fan sees what we saw. He wasn't comfortably fit into taking higher level kids and playing at a far higher level. He did love his underdog under-the -radar mentality. I think Diaco is better frame of mind on taking a Program to a higher level; anyway, that's my story ... and hope.
 
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PRHusky said:
My problem with RE was not so much how he left but that for the last five years or so he was here he could not wait to get out. He would have taken any job offered. And this was at a time in which UConn football was actually good and trending upwards, mostly because of him. It seemed like he hated being at UConn. Plus he has always been in love with himself.
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Would you work with Jeff Hathaway?
 
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Nostical said:
I would proffer that wanting to get out had a lot more to do with Randy's utter lack of respect for Jeff Hathaway's "mickey mouse" approach than Randy's personal desire to get more for himself.
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Bonehead said:
Would you work with Jeff Hathaway?
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While Hathaway was an issue, I do not know of any other prominent UConn coach that was desperate to abandon ship. And that has nothing to do with the fact that Randy is in love with himself and has the worst record in NCAA history against ranked teams (not sure if that is a fact, but I am thinking it has to be considering he is something like 1-28 all-time).
 
It seemed apparent that Edsall felt under-appreciated at UConn. But I was still a little surprised that he left. He and UConn in D1 were pretty much synonymous. It was his program and he was operating with a fairly long leash as far as how much losing it would take for him to be forced out. Anywhere else, he risked a much shorter rope. But he's crying all the way to his mansion.

Like a lot of people here, I thought that he had limitations as a coach and that we had reached his plateau. He got "lucky" early in a sense when Danny O showed up and that pretty much was the reason we became competitive much faster than anyone had a right to expect. After DO, he struggle to find major league QBs. The year of the Fiesta Bowl, we got into the bowl by virtue of a late last game field goal and the conference overall was not all that terrific. Obviously, his successor really set the program back, but I never felt he was the coach to really elevate the program and that he had come to believe in his own talents beyond what they really are, pretty solid but not special.
 
PRHusky said:
While Hathaway was an issue, I do not know of any other prominent UConn coach that was desperate to abandon ship. And that has nothing to do with the fact that Randy is in love with himself and has the worst record in NCAA history against ranked teams (not sure if that is a fact, but I am thinking it has to be considering he is something like 1-28 all-time).
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Fair enough -

I personally don't care about the ranked team W/L, but that's me.
BCS Bowl Games - RE 1 All other UConn Coaches 0

I still believe our backdoor conference title and appearance is the bar.
 
Bonehead said:
Fair enough -

I personally don't care about the ranked team W/L, but that's me.
BCS Bowl Games - RE 1 All other UConn Coaches 0

I still believe our backdoor conference title and appearance is the bar.
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It's odd to say that a conference winner underachieved, but I think the 2010 team clearly did in terms of its overall record. We handed a game to a putrid Rutgers team because Randy refused to pressure a true freshman QB making his first start, and got drilled by a mediocre Temple squad. That team should have been 10-2 with the talent it had.
 
Pudge said:
Let's just appreciate the monumental job he took on, willingly, when he was hired by Lew Perkins. Yes, Trailers were his office. The locker room was 1960ish. It was NOT a good FCS infrastructure; let alone the idea that we would soon play BC, B1G schools, Georgia Tech (at Memorial), Notre Dame, Oklahoma. You want the number one reason why we lagged in the CR sweeps? We were simply unprepared for the decade of the Aughts.

Edsall built a program from scratch. And, when you contrast that with USF, UCF, Temple, Schiano ... he did a darn good job. However, his fate is what many of us would have predicted. The Terp fan sees what we saw. He wasn't comfortably fit into taking higher level kids and playing at a far higher level. He did love his underdog under-the -radar mentality. I think Diaco is better frame of mind on taking a Program to a higher level; anyway, that's my story ... and hope.
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He said trailers. Drink everybody.
 
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PRHusky said:
While Hathaway was an issue, I do not know of any other prominent UConn coach that was desperate to abandon ship. And that has nothing to do with the fact that Randy is in love with himself and has the worst record in NCAA history against ranked teams (not sure if that is a fact, but I am thinking it has to be considering he is something like 1-28 all-time).
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There is a difference with the other coaches. Many of the other UConn programs are blue bloods and already at the top of the pecking order.
 
Excalibur said:
It's odd to say that a conference winner underachieved, but I think the 2010 team clearly did in terms of its overall record. We handed a game to a putrid Rutgers team because Randy refused to pressure a true freshman QB making his first start, and got drilled by a mediocre Temple squad. That team should have been 10-2 with the talent it had.
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It also needed to recover 4 fumbles to beat WVU, and the USF and Pitt games could have gone either way. I thought we were what we were.
 
kemba said:
It also needed to recover 4 fumbles to beat WVU, and the USF and Pitt games could have gone either way. I thought we were what we were.
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All of those 'facts' will be lost overtime - First and Only UConn FB BCS Bowl Team.

Fumbles are part of the game and they won games that could have gone either way - this happens to championship teams all the time.
 
Bonehead said:
All of those 'facts' will be lost overtime - First and Only UConn FB BCS Bowl Team.

Fumbles are part of the game and they won games that could have gone either way - this happens to championship teams all the time.
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Ok? That really has nothing to do with my post, or the one I'm responding to.
 
I'm a big Edsall supporter and hold no ill will towards him. I think he's a great coach who had some bad luck at Maryland, especially with the QB position.

This is an example of the saying "the grass isn't always greener on the other side". The separation of Edsall and UCONN football hurt both (although I'm sure Edsall's bank account is bigger than it would be if he stayed.) Edsall could have been a legend, like Bowden, Bryant, Paterno, or Snyder, who built a great program and were (and are) the face of the program. I hope Diaco considers this once he gets things turned around here.
 
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coachRD said:
Translation: "We don't want our Interim/possible future HC to get thumped 60-7, so we'll leave that task up to our OUTGOING coach."
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Ohio State hasn't been "thumping" anyone this year, but maybe this is their week.

I'll add my name to the list of people that really appreciate Edsall's time at UConn. I loved going to games in the early days of the Rent knowing we were a competitive Big East team 4 years into our D1 experiment.
 
Pudge said:
Let's just appreciate the monumental job he took on, willingly, when he was hired by Lew Perkins. Yes, Trailers were his office. The locker room was 1960ish. It was NOT a good FCS infrastructure; let alone the idea that we would soon play BC, B1G schools, Georgia Tech (at Memorial), Notre Dame, Oklahoma. You want the number one reason why we lagged in the CR sweeps? We were simply unprepared for the decade of the Aughts.

Edsall built a program from scratch. And, when you contrast that with USF, UCF, Temple, Schiano ... he did a darn good job. However, his fate is what many of us would have predicted. The Terp fan sees what we saw. He wasn't comfortably fit into taking higher level kids and playing at a far higher level. He did love his underdog under-the -radar mentality. I think Diaco is better frame of mind on taking a Program to a higher level; anyway, that's my story ... and hope.
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He does not seem to fare well at all with today's pampered big-time recruit. The guy can absolutely spot talent, but he seems to really prefer coaching up 2-star guys with a chip on their shoulder. Worked well at UConn, but the big schools expect you to recruit and coach these "stars".
 
After all that has transpired since his departure, is this board seriously still talking about RE? And Why??!?
 
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