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OT: Patriots Hire Coach Jerod Mayo

Waquoit said:
I'm always one to say that you need a plan. I think the Pats have a plan and they are working the plan. I bet they already know who the GM will be. The problem is, I think it's Jonathan's plan and don't think he's the goods.
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The brother of one of my partners is buddies with Kraft the elder and has never had a positive thing to say about Jonathan.
 
It's kind of goofy to assume Jerod Mayo will fail just because he is a defensive coach. Look no further than what the Texans did with DeMeco Ryans this year. Ryans crushed it when he filled out his staff, specifically when he hired Bobby Slowik. It's gonna be important for Mayo to do the same. They also made a fantastic decision on Stroud.

In a larger sense though, the Patriots future fully depends on who they hire as GM, which QB that guy decides on, and how to manage the ridiculous amount of cap space the team has. Jerod Mayo is like 10% of the total equation.

Any Pats fan should be far more worried about Jerod Mayo having a steep learning curve as a first time head coach, rather than him struggling because he is a "defensive coach."
 
Wow … the boneyard knows all about basketball AND football too! One thing I’m surprised that nobody has said … Hurley was a defensive minded crappy offense coach for a while … until he wasn’t. Hire some guys, get some players, and be open to learning.

Mayo may or may not be ok, but Boneyarders might not know all.
 
Well yeah. Ryans drafted the next Mahomes and got very lucky with Nico Collins, Noah Brown and Tank Dell. Unlikely to be repeated anytime soon.
 
People put too much stress on whether a coach is an offensive coach or a defensive coach. The best head coaches are CEO's and have faith and delegate to their co-ordinators. Belichick, Parcells, Ditka, Cowher and many others started as special teams coaches. ST coaches might have the toughest jobs. They don't have their own players. They take the players the other coaches allow them to use. Most times it is'nt the teams biggest stars.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think Mayo will be fine. Possibly very good. He gets solid marks for leadership and brining people together. He's not very much like Bill at all. It's the GM that I am worried about, and the OC hire

I am happy with Mayo as the choice, I just think it was a mistake to decide that last year rather than interviewing guys this year. Mostly because it hampers your ability to bring in an outside GM, which they desperately need.
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I like to brine people separately; it makes them more tender than if you throw a whole batch in at once...
 
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Kemba'sYogurt said:
It's kind of goofy to assume Jerod Mayo will fail just because he is a defensive coach. Look no further than what the Texans did with DeMeco Ryans this year. Ryans crushed it when he filled out his staff, specifically when he hired Bobby Slowik. It's gonna be important for Mayo to do the same. They also made a fantastic decision on Stroud.

In a larger sense though, the Patriots future fully depends on who they hire as GM, which QB that guy decides on, and how to manage the ridiculous amount of cap space the team has. Jerod Mayo is like 10% of the total equation.

Any Pats fan should be far more worried about Jerod Mayo having a steep learning curve as a first time head coach, rather than him struggling because he is a "defensive coach."
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The only reason Demecco Ryan's works is because they drafted CJ stroud. I would've preferred an offensive minded coach because there is a greater likelihood that the patriots would be successful drafting a QB this year. It isn't impossible but I don't have much confidence. Especially since Jerod mayo has been referred to as Bill 2.0. It isn't that it can't happen is just that offensive head coaches have been running this league for a number of years now and great defensive coaches are starting to look like the horse and buggy in the age lf the automobile.

If the Patriots already had their QB this would be a great hire. This is too good of a QB draft to have a new boss thats the same as the old boss.
 
TheRealKBuks said:
The only reason Demecco Ryan's works is because they drafted CJ stroud. I would've preferred an offensive minded coach because there is a greater likelihood that the patriots would be successful drafting a QB this year. It isn't impossible but I don't have much confidence. Especially since Jerod mayo has been referred to as Bill 2.0. It isn't that it can't happen is just that offensive head coaches have been running this league for a number of years now and great defensive coaches are starting to look like the horse and buggy in the age lf the automobile.

If the Patriots already had their QB this would be a great hire. This is too good of a QB draft to have a new boss thats the same as the old boss.
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And a major reason that Stroud is so successful is that DeMeco knocked it out of the park when he hired his OC, Bobby Slowik. It's not as simple as "Stroud is amazing and therefore so is DeMeco."

C.J. Stroud had an amazing rookie season for 2 reasons. 1-He's an awesome player. 2- DeMeco made the right choice when hiring his OC.

There's nothing to suggest that Jerod Mayo doesn't have the ability to hire an impactful OC.

Which by the way, with the Patriots picking at #3, they have a great opportunity to add offensive talent.

It's also worth noting that the Texans GM (the guy who selected Stroud) is former Pats front office member Nick Caserio. The Texans and the Pats operate and think very similarly.
 
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The biggest mistake the krafts have made is they started getting too involved in football operations. When they first owned the team they brought in the talent and let it alone. While they aren’t as bad as Dallas , Jerry jones involvement hasn’t helped Dallas, the krafts involvement in the pats will continue to take them down
 
Kemba'sYogurt said:
And a major reason that Stroud is so successful is that DeMeco knocked it out of the park when he hired his OC, Bobby Slowik. It's not as simple as "Stroud is amazing and therefore so is DeMeco."

C.J. Stroud had an amazing rookie season for 2 reasons. 1-He's an awesome player. 2- DeMeco made the right choice when hiring his OC.

There's nothing to suggest that Jerod Mayo doesn't have the ability to hire an impactful OC.

Which by the way, with the Patriots picking at #3, they have a great opportunity to add offensive talent.

It's also worth noting that the Texans GM (the guy who selected Stroud) is former Pats front office member Nick Caserio. The Texans and the Pats operate and think very similarly.
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Since Tom Brady left, I'm not sure how anyone can put this much faith in the Patriots. I'm a pats fan, but I wanted bill fired last year because this was the inevitable direction the team was going. Nothing about hiring Mayo makes me think we have taken a turn in the right direction... Hope I'm wrong but feel strongly that I'm not.
 
Kemba'sYogurt said:
And a major reason that Stroud is so successful is that DeMeco knocked it out of the park when he hired his OC, Bobby Slowik. It's not as simple as "Stroud is amazing and therefore so is DeMeco."

C.J. Stroud had an amazing rookie season for 2 reasons. 1-He's an awesome player. 2- DeMeco made the right choice when hiring his OC.

There's nothing to suggest that Jerod Mayo doesn't have the ability to hire an impactful OC.

Which by the way, with the Patriots picking at #3, they have a great opportunity to add offensive talent.

It's also worth noting that the Texans GM (the guy who selected Stroud) is former Pats front office member Nick Caserio. The Texans and the Pats operate and think very similarly.
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They're 10-7 because they had the #2 pick and took Stroud and Stroud is awesome.
 
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All the Patriots beat guys were angling for Vrabel. looks like Vrabel wasnt even a possibility given it was in Mayo’s contract that he was the successor.
 
superjohn said:
They're 10-7 because they had the #2 pick and took Stroud and Stroud is awesome.
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In large part, yes. Coaching as well. But they were worse last year than New England is this year. They are also helped by playing in a weak division this year.

Fortunes rise and fall quickly in the NFL. Rams win superbowl, stink the next year. Teams that play games with the cap to “go for it”, like Miami, are going to crash pretty quickly. Buffalo is not far behind them. It wouldn’t surprise me if Chicago wins their division next year.
 
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"lucky" DeMeco Ryans doing some coaching on the sideline, how "lucky" for him that the pass got picked off
 
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