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whaler11 said:
There has never been a professional team with fewet fans than the Patrios between 1975/1995.

That they could leverage Hartford for a stadium shows how sad it was.
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Those days were fun being a Patriots fan. Had season tickets in 1990. The bandwagon exploded with Brady, not Bledsoe. Though Bledsoe gave us hope.
 
1999.2004.2011 said:
It sucks to lose the game last night, but the reality for the Patriots is that they need to get healthy somehow. Thankfully it doesn't seem like Gronk's injury isn't too severe and that Amendola/Collins could return soon, but it's crazy how many key players have gone down in consecutive weeks
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Big sigh of relief over the Gronk apparent news. Hightower is a big loss that was overshadowed by Gronk's injury last night. We need Collins or Hightower on the field because without either, our second level is quite a bit slower and those bounce plays that Anderson ran with little resistance last night will crush us.
 
superjohn said:
I'm a Giants, Yankees and Knicks fan. I don't like the Red Sox but I've always respected their fans, I like the Celts, I don't like the Patriots but over 90% of it is the fans. As I've stated here many times before growing up in CT. I didn't see any Patriots fans, now when I go back they are everywhere. You talk to any real fans and they will tell you how much they can't stand the pink hats. The Red Sox got some of them when they broke through and started winning in the 2000's but the Patriots seem to have a whole fanbase of them. I'm not sure if upstater is a pink hat or not but he's on a Uconn site and all he ever posts about is his defense of all things Patriots and Penn State football, it's just weird.
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There is a reason why franchises like the Cowboys, Yankees and Patriots are valued in the billions - they all have a deeper, more diverse customer base to sell merchandising. Personally, I wouldn't wear a green Yankees hat or a yellow Patriots sweatshirt...it's not my taste either. Our football coach wore a red UConn sweater on Saturday and while I'm sure HFD spat all over his TV, I didn't hear much fuss about it. Sports marketing is much different today than it was back when we grew up. There were never pink Yankee hats in the 80s. But MLB and the Yankees realized that fans come in all forms and have made billions of more dollars by offering more people more product choice.
 
whaler11 said:
There has never been a professional team with fewet fans than the Patrios between 1975/1995.

That they could leverage Hartford for a stadium shows how sad it was.
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There is a very easy explanation to this: no professional team lost more between 75-95 than the Patriots. I grew up a Patriots/Yankees fan combo (to make it even worse, I also was a diehard Whaler fan!) and there wasn't a day that my friends would bust my stones about it. They all rooted for the Giants/Red Sox because that combo won games back then. Even as a wee lad, I've always understood that sports are cyclical. So every time my buddies would claim that the Pats/Yanks would never win, I would scoff as much as I scoff at the idea that Pats/Yanks fans claim today that those teams will always win. But it's years like the 80s and 90s that make 2000-2015 all the more rewarding. Same thing with UConn football. It's the Pasqualoni era type years, with putrid crowds at the Rent, that will make future years of winning in front of packed houses all the more enjoyable.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
In all fairness, there is a Pro Sports section on the BY so this thread shouldn't even be here.
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True, because every single thread on this board is related to UConn football.

Or maybe you could...I dunno...let the moderators moderate. Just an idea.
 
UConn990411 said:
True, because every single thread on this board is related to UConn football.

Or maybe you could...I dunno...let the moderators moderate. Just an idea.
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Most are at least college football related. Thanks for the input though sport!
 
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"It's a conspiracy against us" say fans of the team that went to 6 Super Bowls and won 4 since 2001.
 
BugsyCT said:
As a TB Bucs fan of 37 years, I would strongly debate this stat. ;)
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Fair point. I forget about the non-northeast located teams from my own little bubble. :)
 
whaler11 said:
Superjohn's posts provide about as much clarity as exists on the Boneyard.
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When it comes to things New York vs Boston, that couldn't be further from the truth.
 
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junglehusky said:
"It's a conspiracy against us" say fans of the team that went to 6 Super Bowls and won 4 since 2001.
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One fan in this thread said that, and now it's all fans who are saying that.

The only thing worse than conspiracy theorists are people who take those opinions and try to make it sound like it's the entire fan base's.
 
1999.2004.2011 said:
Are there some bandwagon fans? Sure, but this isn't anything new in sports. Whenever a professional sports team wins a lot, bandwagon fans are bound to pop up anywhere. It happened with the Yankees, Lakers, Cowboys, etc so to use a sweeping generalization to apply to all Boston teams isn't entirely accurate or fair.
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I didn't apply it to all Boston teams, I applied it to the Patriots.
 
Dooley said:
Gotta love Giants fans who feel the need to hijack Patriots related threads. Where are the Giants threads so I can go over there and tell them to quit whining and sahq on it???
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There is one on the men's basketball board and nobody is whining. Giants fans are saying they suck and calling out mistakes Coughlin and Eli continue to make.
 
Dooley said:
There is a reason why franchises like the Cowboys, Yankees and Patriots are valued in the billions - they all have a deeper, more diverse customer base to sell merchandising. Personally, I wouldn't wear a green Yankees hat or a yellow Patriots sweatshirt...it's not my taste either. Our football coach wore a red UConn sweater on Saturday and while I'm sure HFD spat all over his TV, I didn't hear much fuss about it. Sports marketing is much different today than it was back when we grew up. There were never pink Yankee hats in the 80s. But MLB and the Yankees realized that fans come in all forms and have made billions of more dollars by offering more people more product choice.
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When I say pink hat it has nothing to do with the color hat somebody wears, it's describing the type of fan that jumped on the Patriots bandwagon in the early 2000's, it happened with the Red Sox as well but they at least had tons of real fans for generations. I recently talked to a diehard Red Sox fan from West Roxbury who said she couldn't be a Patriots fan because the fanbase was so phony and full of pink hats. The weirdest thing is I have several friends from Chicago who consider themselves diehard Patriots/Red Sox fans and they've never stepped foot in Boston let alone New England. I'm a fan of my teams since I was a little tyke and have no respect for people who just decide they all of a sudden like winners. My hockey team is the Whalers and once they left CT. I know longer have a favorite hockey team. The people who were diehard Whalers fans and then just jumped on the Bruins bandwagon and call themselves Bruins fans are a freaking joke. I appreciate what the Blackhawks are doing and root for them in a series but I would never call myself a Blackhawks fan.
 
UConn990411 said:
One fan in this thread said that, and now it's all fans who are saying that.

The only thing worse than conspiracy theorists are people who take those opinions and try to make it sound like it's the entire fan base's.
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More prevalent for the Pats than most fanbases. Another one I hate is taking the opinion of homers who go overboard for comedy's sake, and then extrapolating that out to all fans. Deliberately obtuse.
 
superjohn said:
When I say pink hat it has nothing to do with the color hat somebody wears, it's describing the type of fan that jumped on the Patriots bandwagon in the early 2000's, it happened with the Red Sox as well but they at least had tons of real fans for generations. I recently talked to a diehard Red Sox fan from West Roxbury who said she couldn't be a Patriots fan because the fanbase was so phony and full of pink hats. The weirdest thing is I have several friends from Chicago who consider themselves diehard Patriots/Red Sox fans and they've never stepped foot in Boston let alone New England.
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Then this person is an idiot (re sports) who cares too much about what other people think. If you are fan of the team, you support them, no matter what anyone else says or does full stop. I get the sentiment, as it's similar to liking an up and coming band. You like them before they are relevant, and then become resentful of all the Johnny-come-lately's. But that shouldn't lessen the quality of their music or the joy in appreciating them.

When you have the premier program in the league, people all over the world jump on board. It happened with the Yankees; I've been all over the world, and saw a largely disproportionate amount of Yankee hats abroad. And then there was a noticeable uptick in the # of Red Sox hats after 2004. And it's currently happening with the Patriots. There's a reason Brady's jersey sales still leads the league after all these years; it's usually a top draft pick that takes that slot. I mean, there's kids driving around on the roads who weren't even born when the Patriots won their first Superbowl. It's understandable.

And I'm the same on the Whalers. Currently in Boston but couldn't care less about the Bruins. Actually, I stopped watching the NHL after they stole our team, even though I grew up playing the game and enjoy it.

If you are a fan of the another team, I can understand how irritating it is. But it's not reflective of ALL fans, even though it's often painted as such.
 
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Excalibur said:
And there it is . . . .

This is why Pats fans are ridiculed.
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I don't truly believe it, but wouldn't put anything past that lying scumbag. There's no more dishonorable person in any position of power in American sports.
 
superjohn said:
When I say pink hat it has nothing to do with the color hat somebody wears, it's describing the type of fan that jumped on the Patriots bandwagon in the early 2000's, it happened with the Red Sox as well but they at least had tons of real fans for generations. I recently talked to a diehard Red Sox fan from West Roxbury who said she couldn't be a Patriots fan because the fanbase was so phony and full of pink hats. The weirdest thing is I have several friends from Chicago who consider themselves diehard Patriots/Red Sox fans and they've never stepped foot in Boston let alone New England. I'm a fan of my teams since I was a little tyke and have no respect for people who just decide they all of a sudden like winners. My hockey team is the Whalers and once they left CT. I know longer have a favorite hockey team. The people who were diehard Whalers fans and then just jumped on the Bruins bandwagon and call themselves Bruins fans are a freaking joke. I appreciate what the Blackhawks are doing and root for them in a series but I would never call myself a Blackhawks fan.
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Sounds like you and I are one in alike. Just substitute Pats/Giants loyalties. I have quite a bit of family in Canada and whenever we get together they'll ask who I follow. I still and will always reply "the Whale".
 
superjohn said:
There is one on the men's basketball board and nobody is whining. Giants fans are saying they suck and calling out mistakes Coughlin and Eli continue to make.
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We apologize for the Patriots not sucking.
 
intlzncster said:
Then this person is an idiot (re sports) who cares too much about what other people think. If you are fan of the team, you support them, no matter what anyone else says or does full stop. I get the sentiment, as it's similar to liking an up and coming band. You like them before they are relevant, and then become resentful of all the Johnny-come-lately's. But that shouldn't lessen the quality of their music or the joy in appreciating them.
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What's even more ridiculous is the Red Sox fan made fun of Patriot pink hats??!! Huh?

Go to a Patriot game--there are no phony fans. People stopped going to games during the Kiam/McPherson/Rust years. But from the mid 1970s until 1990, that stadium was always packed. I went there as a kid, and it was always packed in the 1970s. And when I was in Boston during the 80s, I caught a couple games a year. They were popular during the Berry era.

When Orthwein bought them and threatened to move them, and they went 1-15 and 2-14, people stopped coming. But that was a very short stretch of about 3 or so years.

As for Gronkowski and OPIs, he has had 5 calls go against him this year, which is absurd.

This is the sort of thing teams do to him constantly with no call:

 
upstater said:
This is the Ex-Head of NFL officials (Read second post which is on Chung):

  1. 11:57 PM - 29 Nov 2015
    Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 2h2 hours ago
    Sorry but the officials handled the clock exactly the way the rule book reads...when defense has an excess time out you wind the clock
  2. 11:41 PM - 29 Nov 2015 Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 3h3 hours ago
    That's an awful call and not a foul..... No visible restriction

  3. 11:22 PM - 29 Nov 2015
    Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 3h3 hours ago
    You are correct...that action takes place all the time without offensive interference called...this call was very technical and not a foul
  4. 10:59 PM - 29 Nov 2015
    Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 3h3 hours ago
    It's whoever makes the initial recovery if that can be determined, otherwise the player who comes out with it usually gets it
  5. 10:56 PM - 29 Nov 2015
    Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 3h3 hours ago
    Wow ,quick decision and usually the officials give the ball to the player who comes out with it...this decision is unusual...

  6. 10:41 PM - 29 Nov 2015
    Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 4h4 hours ago
    Roughing the kicker is when you contact the kickers plant leg and that did not happen but contact the non kicking leg and body did...
  7. 10:40 PM - 29 Nov 2015
    Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 4h4 hours ago
    When you contact a punter without touching the football you have a foul....only 5 yards but a foul
  8. 9:15 PM - 29 Nov 2015
    Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 5h5 hours ago
    Didn't see a lot of illegal action by Gronk on that foul...very little separation and should not have been flagged
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Hilarious, I remember you posting Daopoulos in the past. He is right up there with you in terms of his Patriots cheating defense, shocker that he's from Boston. You probably thought George Mitchell was impartial in his PED investigation.
 
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upstater said:
As for Gronkowski and OPIs, he has had 5 calls go against him this year, which is absurd.

This is the sort of thing teams do to him constantly with no call:
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Gronk's actually been penalized six times. Mike Reiss did an interesting breakdown.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england...-gronkowski-to-higher-standard-with-opi-calls


Here's an article that sums up the refereeing for that game (which for the record, I don't really care about). Don't think he's a Pats fan.

http://uproxx.com/sports/2015/11/questionable-calls-against-patriots-in-first-loss-to-broncos/
 
superjohn said:
Hilarious, I remember you posting Daopoulos in the past. He is right up there with you in terms of his Patriots cheating defense, shocker that he's from Boston. You probably thought George Mitchell was impartial in his PED investigation.
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He's from NYC and he is a go-to guy for a lot of people , like Peter King here: http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/03/video-playoff-officiating-heres-the-inside-story

You're such a hater that you want to discredit the ex-head of officials.

Your hating is constant and growing.
 
whaler11 said:
There has never been a professional team with fewet fans than the Patrios between 1975/1995.

That they could leverage Hartford for a stadium shows how sad it was.
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Whatever.

The Patriots are the #2 most valuable NFL franchise right now. The Cowboys are #1. Both are well ahead of the Giants, Jets, Redskins, Bears, Steelers, Packers, etc.
 
upstater said:
He's from NYC and he is a go-to guy for a lot of people , like Peter King here: http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/03/video-playoff-officiating-heres-the-inside-story

You're such a hater that you want to discredit the ex-head of officials.

Your hating is constant and growing.
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He's from Marlborough, MA. I could care less about his opinions on how a game is officiated I just find it hilarious that you have him as a Twitter buddy because he was trying to explain away the Patriots cheating. I get a kick out of how you will do anything to defend the honor of the Patriots and Penn State football, you should take up the cause of defending the Louisville athletic department while you're at it.
 
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