Paige's Wings Page (merged thread)

[BobbyJ]

Not according to Nancy Lieberman she's not and she knows a lot better than you or I would about passing the ball

Get on the phone with every coach and GM in the league and ask them what they think of Bueckers' game and passing and then get back to us. They might not agree that much with Clark's Aunt Nancy.

 

[Basingstoke]

I thought about creating a new thread, but, instead am just adding this thought to the current one.
In the back and forth about whether Paige or Citron (or Iriafen for that matter) should be ROY, it struck that me that even if stats were equal, there is no comparison when you consider the responsibility of the position played, the quality of support for them in terms of other high-level options on offense and defense, and lastly: who besides Paige constantly gets double and triple-teamed on a regular basis (no one else gets that treatment).
IMO there really is no comparison, and Paige should be the runaway choice for the award.

 

[WiseWillie]

I have been meaning to write this for a while. So bear with me Boneyard.

There's the UConn Standard and there's the Paige Standard.

When Paige steps on the floor she plays at a high level and expects the same from her teammates. There's no slouching or negative mental lapses if you miss a pass or a basket. It's just something that didn't work that time but you immediately forget it and move on ready for the next play.

Paige's mindset is to be the best at whatever she's doing whenever she steps on the floor and whatever her team and teammates need at any particular point whether its passing to an open teammate, setting a screen or pick, running around a defender, rebounding - or scoring. Like all the great players, she expects excellence from herself in everything she does on the court and uses that to motivate excellence in her teammates. She is confident in her abilities yet strives to improve in every facet of the game.

Quite simply, Paige as a rookie is the ultimate professional serving as an example for so many young players of what hard work and dedication can accomplish in celebrating the ups with gratefulness and pushing through with determination the downs of a sport.

And now back to the regular discussion. 😊

 

[CamrnCrz1974]

• How many guards in the WNBA have a higher win shares per 40 rate than Paige Bueckers? Four. Only Allisha Gray, Jackie Young, Kayla McBride and Kelsey Mitchell are higher – and three of them are ahead of her by 0.01.
• How many guards average more points per game than Bueckers? Two. Kelsey Mitchell and Kelsey Plum.
• How many guards that take 10 or more shots per game have a higher shooting percentage than Bueckers? Zero.

LINK (Her Hoop Stats)

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Get on the phone with every coach and GM in the league and ask them what they think of Bueckers' game and passing and then get back to us. They might not agree that much with Clark's Aunt Nancy.

For literally forever now Nancy has simply spewed what she is told to spew.

 

[Bigboote]

There's the UConn Standard and there's the Paige Standard.

I’ll add the corollary, there’s the UConn standard and there’s the Wings’ standard. The Huskies do get more practice, but even absent that, their standard is higher.

 

[rt bb fan]

I was watching the Sun vs wings Aliyah Edwards was a non factor. WHAT has happened to her game? Has she lost confidence in her skills?

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Watch who is offering resistance to Paige's new warm up drill. I know, I know, but it is still funny.

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

I watched the Sun at Dallas game and Paige was a late scratch as she was sick!
Just maybe she played the last 2 games feeling crappy, but played anyway! And her performance was sub-par!
Give a our girl a break!
She's in the top 10 players in the league as a 1st year!

 

[Bald Husky]

My birthday was yesterday (also Stewies), played a round of golf with my son, birthday party at his house later, came home, settled in bed to watch the Wings game on re-play, and no, no, Paige wasn't playing. A disappointing end to a great day. Oh well everything can't always go right. BTW, I didn't watch the game, nor really enthused about watching the debacle that the Wings are without Paige. I needed the sleep anyway.

 

[oldude]

On Paige’s “illness” that kept her out of yesterday’s game. There are a couple of videos online. One is of Paige during a pregame shoot around where she looks fine hitting shots from all around the court. There is second video of Paige at the shoot around being asked to comment about the terrible shooting in Minneapolis yesterday where she sounds fine and, not unsurprisingly, gives a thoughtful answer to a difficult question.

My take is that whatever illness Paige has is minor. She likely could have played yesterday if something was on the line for the Wings. The decision to give Paige the day off probably had more to do with load management for a player that clearly is dealing with some fatigue as she works through a demanding pro season which immediately followed a demanding college season.

 

[fireford]

Hmm...sounds more like "draft pick management" than "load management" to me but I'm happy Paige got a day off.

 

[Huskee11]

On Paige’s “illness” that kept her out of yesterday’s game. There are a couple of videos online. One is of Paige during a pregame shoot around where she looks fine hitting shots from all around the court. There is second video of Paige at the shoot around being asked to comment about the terrible shooting in Minneapolis yesterday where she sounds fine and, not unsurprisingly, gives a thoughtful answer to a difficult question.

My take is that whatever illness Paige has is minor. She likely could have played yesterday if something was on the line for the Wings. The decision to give Paige the day off probably had more to do with load management for a player that clearly is dealing with some fatigue as she works through a demanding pro season which immediately followed a demanding college season.

You are probably right but it was handled in typical Dallas Wings clown car fashion.

 

[oldude]

Hmm...sounds more like "draft pick management" than "load management" to me but I'm happy Paige got a day off.

The Wings are virtually assured of the highest odds for the #1 pick in the draft lottery, which is calculated based on a team’s record over the prior 2 seasons.

The only team with a remote chance of having a worse record than the Wings is the Chicago Sky. The Wings currently have 18 wins over 2 seasons. The Sky have 22. So the Wings only need to lose 2 of their last 5 games, assuming that the Sky don’t win any of their last 7 games, and the Wings will end up with the best odds for the #1pick.

Can’t imagine the Wings suddenly going on a winning streak over their last 5 games, especially when they will face a number of teams who are very much in the playoff hunt.

 

[cometjo]

• How many guards in the WNBA have a higher win shares per 40 rate than Paige Bueckers? Four. Only Allisha Gray, Jackie Young, Kayla McBride and Kelsey Mitchell are higher – and three of them are ahead of her by 0.01.

Hard to get win shares when there are so few wins

 

[baggerbob]

It’s basically a chicken or egg question. Is it the lack of players or a bad organization or both? This year is a write off for the Wings. Next year will be the proof of the pudding as to whether Curt Miller and the organization really know what they are doing. The Wings are extremely well positioned from a draft and free agent standpoint to substantially upgrade their team, and they have Paige.

Just like Paige, Azzi will thrive wherever she ends up in the W. Since Paige is stuck in Dallas for the next 3 seasons, I want to see the Wings build a competitive team around her.

With all the players that are free agents, all it takes is Miller convincing 2 or 3 Stars to come and play with Paige and their first round pick, and Dallas would be a good team.

 

[baggerbob]

With all the players that are free agents, all it takes is Miller convincing 2 or 3 Stars to come and play with Paige and their first round pick, and Dallas would be a good team.

And Dallas has 3 or 4 youngsters on rookie contracts, so they have more money then most everyone else.
So for players looking to get together to win a championship and make good money Dallas will be a good spot to go.

 

[Dugway]

I agree with you baggerbob! One would think that this season's results will be completely different into the near future. But we will have to wait and see.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

OK, kicking around who the Wings can choose in the next draft. Betts, sure a safe pick, but if you look back to the UConn game, if she is more than 2 feet from the basket she can't score. The W demands a Big that can move around the paint, able to shoot 3's, and be a top-notch passer. After the next campaign, I wonder if Serah Williams could show that she is a top candidate. We know she is good, but under CD's tutelage, maybe she can develop to be a great Big that the pros cannot dismiss. Never know, she is already an all-Big10 player, so who knows how good she can get after a year with UConn. Serah will have plenty of exposure, so it is up to her how far she can go, and she may prove to be that good.

I'm perhaps the only one on the board miserable enough to say it out loud but I don't want to bet big money on a player who has gone public with serious mental trauma in addition to what @Bald Husky reports.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

And Dallas has 3 or 4 youngsters on rookie contracts, so they have more money then most everyone else.
So for players looking to get together to win a championship and make good money Dallas will be a good spot to go.

Dallas is tainted with the "bad organization" curse, but you'll never know if you don't ask. My opinion Dallas is the disaster we thought it was for Paige.